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| Sengoku BASARA 3 (in NA: SB Samurai Heroes); Out in 2010 - PS3&Wii Multi! | |
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| ~in3vitableTIMING~ | Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:17 pm Post #2026 |
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"Thanks Partner" - Sheva Alomar
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Mago would be with the west wouldn't she, after all hideyoshi did help her out of her ruff patch and relations with motochika makes perfect sence
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:48 pm Post #2027 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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Well, well, well... I gave it some thought now. Does Kobayashi and his team really think, that weīll just sit by and laugh at all the bad news, if he "hides" them in between some good ones? Well, Mr. K, then donīt give us more bad news than good ones. Not only did he reveal that Kasuga and Kenshin (both long time characters, who would fit in more than anything into the Sekigahara scenario...cīmon Motonari is in... ) which opens the possibility of Zabii, Itsuki, Ujimasa, Shingen, Matsu, Matsunaga and many more to end up being a NPC, but also tells us that weīll have to wait till SUMMER 2010.One new girl with around 20 guns and a guy with a chain-ball isnīt enough to make up for so many bad news. Add in the fact that we might face a info-drought again... At least I really like Magoīs design and the ball&chain guy really looks cool But Mr. K, if Hisahide ends up being a NPC again... Iīm really going to EDIT: Going to post more detailed thoughts on Mago and "Big Ball"...when Iīm done accepting the fact that one out of three characters that I didnīt want to see as NPC, has become a NPC. Edited by Matsunaga Hisahide, Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:56 pm.
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| Nine Demons Yoshitaka | Wed Dec 2, 2009 3:04 pm Post #2028 |
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Old men aficionado
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Wow, Koba really opened a can of hissing, angry, hating worms! J/K I honestly never thought for a minute that Kenshin would have been included (especially after the confirmation of Shingen's illness), and I don't give a rat's ass about Kasuga, so that must be the reason their NPCization left me nonplussed... I guess Koba wanted an excuse not to add Kagekatsu in, maybe? Anyway, there's gonna be a new video shown at next sunday's event in Kanetsugu's hometown. Seeing new characters would even be too cool, so I'm not betting on it...(although I hope!), but at least we'll see new things... About the Ball & Chain guy, he might really be Yoshiaki, since there are anecdotes about his exceptional strength. Or Masanori, as he's known for being a "brawler" more than a thinker... Or Kuroda Kanbei (because he was imprisoned, and Mr. B&C looks like a jail escapee) These are 2ch's guesses anyway. I have no idea at this point, since this is Basara they might turn almost any male general into that guy..(except Kanbei, I hope...he deserves more than that IMO) so I'm going with Yoshiaki... If this wasn't centered around Sekigahara, I would have said Katsuie without a doubt. By the way, the HQ scans are coming in 5 hours, more or less. As long as some disaster doesn't befall me... |
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| Matsunaga Hisahide | Wed Dec 2, 2009 8:45 pm Post #2029 |
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Eyes of the devil, smile of a winner
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As Iīve said, itīs stupid to NOT buy a game, just because a character isnīt in a game. But I wouldīve done it once, if DMC4 didnīt have Dante in it. And I would do it again, if Matsunaga is still not playable, after about 2 games and a great anime appearance. And now the chances are skyrocketing trough the King of the Comosīs lands that heīll end up being the "screwed one" again. So itīs not the fact that Kenshin AND Kasuga got the "canīt touch, only look"-card but that Shingen and even Matsu might get the same fate. Plus of course Matsunaga. One out of three characters: Kenshin - NPC Matsu - Fate unknown Matsunaga - Fate unkown Still Mago looks awesome. Though I wouldīve preferred a more colored version. As MP said, normally they have a certain color scheme...well,, I like the fact that she carries so many guns(opens up a good attack-string possibilty and not just the two shots string that Noh used) and that she uses MAGNUMS. Hope theyīll be a blast to use. For the ball and chain guy. My first guess was Tachibana Muneshige since heīs with Yoshihiro...but that doesnīt have to be the case. Iīm with MP here. Just because he doesnīt have his love-crested helmet doesnīt mean itīs not him. Maybe the love crest is on his ball and he wants to "pound love into people". And I mean we all know that the BASARA Kanetsugu had a REAAAALLY big ego. I mean this ball screams:"Iīm undefeatable, donīt even try it" And if itīs Kanetsugu, he would be a ice user and he could use it to make a huge ice ball, or create icicle spikes on his chain ball, which would be even more awesome. If itīs Kanetsugu, I wouldnīt be dissapointed. I like the idea of him swinging around that thing Thanks for the scans and infos BTW.
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| aya_aya | Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:05 am Post #2030 |
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真 美景
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Oh my god, Mago's a girl! xD But then again......she's looks pretty cool :0 Thanks for the scans though. Hey does anyone know if its true that Oichi and Nobunaga isn't going to be in the series anymore?? <--It would kinda feel weird without Nobunaga since almost every game thats about the Sengoku era has Nobunaga in it o-o |
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| Keneticam | Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:26 am Post #2031 |
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Right.......
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The Cut characters from the game so far are: Nobunaga Nouhime Ranmaru Mitsuhide Nagamasa Yoshimoto and maybe one more who i cant remember...possibly Oichi, but im not sure. Also Hideyoshi and Shingen Takeda will not be playable however they might be npcs. Also Kenshin and Kasuga are UNPCs. But don't worry....the director stated that they are gonna be adding ALOT of new characters since the story is revolving around Sekigahara now and so many of the old characters have been removed since they are irrevalent to the new gist of the game . Instead of it being about Nobunaga and the whole Honnoji ordeal, its now about Mitsunari and Ieayasu and the Sekigahara ordeal. |
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| Claus | Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:44 am Post #2032 |
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Ichi is most likely in, during an interview, someone asked if she was cut or not, and Kobayashi said something along the lines of "I'm not telling *gigglegiggle*" Which pretty much means she is in. It just isn't confirmed yet. Also, someone i don't think anyone has mentioned yet: Shibata Katsuiie. I;m starting to think he might be the silhouette, considering Ichi needs a friend. |
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| Yedo | Thu Dec 3, 2009 3:21 am Post #2033 |
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Words Words Words ghghg hg hgh
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Still no news on Matsunaga!? >_<. Why must I be tortured like this? At least give me an answer...cut or not cut...grah. Anyway...I'm a bit disappointed that Kenshin is an NPC. I mean this whole time I thought he was cut...which would make more sense. But if he's actually appearing, why as an NPC? Well...I guess we have Mitsunari...so Kenshin would be a little repetitive. Also, I don't know if this has been confirmed as I spent quite a while away from this thread...but is Kojuuro playable? I remember seeing a screen of him a LONG time ago...Yet there still isn't a profile for him on the official site yet. What gives? |
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| Gakupo | Thu Dec 3, 2009 3:48 am Post #2034 |
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Reading through the new posts I came across something mentioned quite often: how come Kanetsugu is being called Muteki? Is this because of how he acts in the anime or in the manga? I'll admit I haven't seen the anime yet but I am aware that he makes a brief appearance in there. Or is it something he always yells? |
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| eklineage | Thu Dec 3, 2009 4:03 am Post #2035 |
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God of the Valkyrur
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now that you mention it... i wouldn't mind a replacement for some of the basara characters like mago with nouhime Edited by eklineage, Thu Dec 3, 2009 4:36 am.
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| Ultimate Legend | Thu Dec 3, 2009 4:05 am Post #2036 |
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Keeping it Cool.
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Not the anime, not the manga, the GAME. |
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| Xia Jin | Thu Dec 3, 2009 6:24 am Post #2037 |
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In Lurker Mode
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Man, this thread moves fast. Cool with the female Magoichi. I like Capcom's take on everybody so far. As far as Kenshin being an NPC, I was thinking it was inevitable because Mitsunari is the hyper fast Katana user now and having Kenshin in the game might be repetative in terms of character types. So yeah, it kinda sucks not being able to use Kenshin (hopeful for free mode use), but Mitsunari being in the game is worthy of taking Kenshin's place as that character type. |
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| BlackKite | Thu Dec 3, 2009 6:56 am Post #2038 |
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長宗我部菜々
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Site just updated. There's a new section with explanation on the green bar. It's called 戦刻ブーストゲージBattle Time Boost gauge which will gradually rise up as you beat enemies. Once activated, enemy movement will go slow-motion. Beating more enemies while this is on helps prolong the mode. Video section updated with Mitsunari's presentation video. It's Super Ieyasuuu Time!! Character section updated with Magoichi & Keiji. Kenshin & Kasuga who are confirmed NPCs will have their pages up next week. |
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| Ultimate Legend | Thu Dec 3, 2009 7:08 am Post #2039 |
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So they changed how the character section looks show they could show everyone. Small changes include being able to zoom in on the character and switching from characters. And I doubt that they'd make a small section for just Kenshin and Kasuga so that confirms some new characters and probably a few more old characters will be NPC only. |
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| eklineage | Thu Dec 3, 2009 7:17 am Post #2040 |
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God of the Valkyrur
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I do hope they say something about npcs being playable in free mode.
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| Hondam | Thu Dec 3, 2009 12:06 pm Post #2041 |
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Harbaugh So Hard
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^ NPC means they aren't playable at all. Most likely we're gonna have to wait till SB4, or a Heroes/expansion should they do one. |
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| Kanrul | Thu Dec 3, 2009 6:57 pm Post #2042 |
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Soldier
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I don't think that capcom would make a total transformation of the history of a characther, this is the story of magoichi like wikipedia sayd: Suzuki Magoichi From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Suzuki Magoichi (鈴木孫一、鈴木孫市?), better known as Saiga Magoichi or Saika Magoichi (雑賀孫一、雑賀孫市?), (1534?- May 2(?), 1589) was the name given to the leader of the Saiga Ikki. He is famous for arming his troops with arquebuses and donning the yatagarasu as his family crest. Suzuki Sadayu and Suzuki Shigehide were examples of people who held this title. Suzuki Shigehide is perhaps the better known of the two, known for supporting the Ikkō resistance against Oda Nobunaga during the Ishiyama Hongan-ji War. After Torii Mototada's downfall during the battle of Sekigahara, he is said to have lived the rest of his days as a ronin in Mito Domain. Reports of different men using the moniker range from Wakayama, Ibaraki and Mie prefectures. Magoichi was married to lady Saika (who was one year older than he was) from 1534 A.D. to 1579 A.D. Hardly any information is known about Magoichi's wife except that she was born in 1534 A.D. Also, they married when Magoichi was 20 and lady Saika was 21. They were married for 25 years until Magoichi was killed in battle. Magoichi and his wife had a relationship since they were 12. It is unknown whether or not they had any children. He also had a younger sister. Would her be his young sister, makes sense to me, but who knows? |
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| wodash | Fri Dec 4, 2009 12:42 am Post #2043 |
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undefeated in all directions
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hoo,so basically its a more useful version of SW's musou ougi?now i have seen it all>.<(what's with SW3 having the "bird hanzo") @kanrul:there are a LOT of versions for historical japanese figures,the likes of hanzo,fuuma,and magoichi has so many alternate stories that would make wikipedia explode if all of them is included there the point is,capcom used the more interesting background than the bland ones that wikipedia used and also,it is stated that the one in SB3 is the 3rd generation of saika magoichi,which makes clear that its a title,not a person...... as a parting word,useful as it is,wikipedia is not the only source of info you can trust do not trust wikipedia! |
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| BlackKite | Fri Dec 4, 2009 1:08 am Post #2044 |
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長宗我部菜々
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First of all @Kanrul, Welcome to KW Board. ![]() And yep, this Magoichi is the 3rd generation, while Suzuki Shigehide, the Magoichi we know more, is the 2nd generation. So we can safely assume that this may be not a genderbend, but rather as a female relative of Shigehide.
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| wodash | Fri Dec 4, 2009 1:56 am Post #2045 |
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undefeated in all directions
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^which explains why she is around that age and actively participating in sekigahara too bad kenshin is not a title,which does not explain why kenshin is much,much younger than ujimasa&yoshihiro>.<,capcom should've made both of them in an image of young lads too(as for yoshihiro,a half cygorg with cannon arms and a sacrificial brand on his neck>.<),but i guess both are doomed to be geezers in pretty much all kinds of media appearances......(aside from the girl spoofs a la ikkitousen) |
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| necrosis | Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:11 am Post #2046 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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Even if Kenshin was a title handed down, wouldn't help the fact he was made NPC because those bloody yaoi doujin fangirls don't care about him. |
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| Claus | Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:19 am Post #2047 |
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Its because he is feminine isn't it? Stupid crazed yaoi fangirls. Only wanting Manly men.
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| necrosis | Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:23 am Post #2048 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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No, its because Kenshin has Kasuga, and that gets in the way of their slash fics. |
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| Claus | Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:25 am Post #2049 |
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Who says he can't fictionally cheat on her in their yaoi fantasies? Anyone else think this is subject getting kinda weird. O_o |
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| necrosis | Fri Dec 4, 2009 2:28 am Post #2050 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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Hey man, I don't understand yaoi fangirl train of thought. >___> So, will this time slow function be used solely to rip of Musou Ougi, or will it have extra functions? |
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) which opens the possibility of Zabii, Itsuki, Ujimasa, Shingen, Matsu, Matsunaga and many more to end up being a NPC, but also tells us that weīll have to wait till SUMMER 2010.






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