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Tadaoki would be a very nice addition to SB3, wouldn't he?
Of course! I'd like him to be in! And I'm sure Capcom's gonna make him as a cool guy! 6 (50%)
Hmm, perhaps so, but if Gracia's not in I doubt whether I'll want him either... 5 (41.7%)
Sorry BK, but I beg to differ. I think there are many other generals that far deserve the spot more than him. 1 (8.3%)
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Discuss the character NG: Hosokawa Tadaoki; Eastern general, husband of Gracia
Topic Started: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:20 pm (700 Views)
BlackKite
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http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Hosokawa_Tadaoki

Hosokawa Tadaoki is the son of Hosokawa Fujitaka, who was also known as a prominent advisor to Shogun Ashikaga. He was married to Gracia, Mitsuhide's daughter, although that didn't seem to make him support the latter during Yamazaki.

Later on he became friends with Ieyasu and supported the Eastern army at Sekigahara. There are rumors that Gracia's death also fueled his intention to join the East.


Overall I think he has a very good chance to be included in SB3 roster considering his relations. Also, he could be a very good Eastern general to even up the East-West ratio. And the Hosokawa was one of the most prominent clans in the midwest area so I think Capcom wouldn't overlook the possibility of adding him.
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Ishikawa Goemon
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Not really someone I care for but I wouldn't mind his inclusion although I think there are plenty others who deserve the spot more.

But then again this is BASARA, with the inclusion of Francis Xavier in past titles anyone is up for grabs.
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Manta Punk
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Sure, why the hell not.
The East needs bulking up when compared with the West. I mean, so far the East only has Ieyasu, Tadakatsu and the Dokuganryu. And then we have Mitsunari, Yukimura, Toshiie (if he makes it), Yoshitsugu (practically comfirmed ^_^), Magoichi (?) sporting the West and probably a butt-load more as it has a ton of notable generals.

He seems interesting enough and if Gracia is in, great. The game needs another couple now that Noh + Nobunaga and Nagamasa + Oichi (?) have been cut. If he does make it, I wonder how Capcom will potray him...

He seemed pretty brash and obviously had a temper, but I could also see Capcom playing on his "debts that he owed" :sly:
Edited by Manta Punk, Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:07 pm.
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Ishikawa Goemon
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I could imagine him taking Nagamasa's personality.
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Lady Dragoon
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Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:48 pm
He seemed pretty brash and obviously had a temper, but I could also see Capcom playing on his "debts that he owed" :sly:
I'm am now imaging him being a gambler. XD

Ya know, if it wasn't the fact it maybe a bit to hard to work with this type of game, I would say he could fight with dices or something close to that.

And have like 'random/luck' base skills.

...it could be awesome or not. (It would sure in the heck be strange.)
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Matsunaga Hisahide
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I´m not sure about him, since there are still a lot who could be added, besides him.

And BTW MP there´s also Mogami Yoshiaki now :sly:
I guess Motochika will also fight on the east side, since in SB2:H he had a close relationship with Ieyasu and I don´t think they´ll overlook that, also, the Mouris will surely fight on Mitsunari´s side(he´s cold, he´s out for revenge...a type Mouri would like :D )
And we all know it´ll end up Motonari fighting Motochika, like allways, since this rivalry is just awesome, I love those two :XD

But I´m getting Off-topic.

Isn´t Hosokawa Tadaoki the one who honored Sasaki Kojiro as the chief weapons master of the Hosokawa fief north of Kyūshū?

So if Kojiro´s in...and maybe even Gracia...or at least one of them, he might work well in all this, in a duo of Kojiro and Tadaoki or he and Gracia as a loving couple...

Also he was the one who fought (I know BK, just to confuse no one :P ) Shima Sakon? Another "couple" for the Sekigahara battlefield, who´d fight to the death...

So if Kojiro´s in, if Gracia´s in, if Sakon´s in...or even all of them are in...he´d have a lot of story and dialogue possibilities...so if one of those is added I´d be glad to see him too ;)
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i think the 2nd option is the best choice,especially since casual gamers now recognize gracia better than his husband,thanks to KOEI,just like how KOEI put oichi in first and then make nagamasa playable(but still have him as unique NPC from the start)

so its either put them both in as NPC's or one of them as PC and the other as NPC(with gracia as the most likely to be playable since she has connection to ol' mitsuhide)
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DarkDante
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Not much for me to say about this, you guys have already said it all. Hosokawa Tadaoki would be a fantastic add, one I have wanted for the Eastern forces for some time. Outside of the Tokugawa generals, the other Eastern Daimyo I have always desired to see have been Mogami Yoshiaki, Ikeda Terumasa, Fukushima Masanori and Hosokawa Tadaoki. Now we already got Mogami... 3 more to go!!

And yes DK, Tadaoki was Kojiro's employer for a time, so Kojiro could be portrayed as a part retainer to him as well. There is so much depth to Tadaoki's character IMO he is a must: the rivalry with Mitsunari, the love of Gracia, the employer of Kojiro.

Also post Sekigahara he was awarded Buzen, a major fief in Kyushu so he could possibly beef up the Kyushu daimyos and finally Yoshihiro would have someone to let his anger out on.
Edited by DarkDante, Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:16 am.
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Nine Demons Yoshitaka
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You guys said everything I would, or could say...he'd work well with Gracia, and there can't be a Sengoku game without an Hosokawa!!
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...ummm....what you guys said! :hehe:
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