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| Xiao Sooyoung | Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:41 pm Post #1 |
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did hosokawa tadaoki really asked his people to kill tama? (gracia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosokawa_Gracia they say when Ishida was going to kidnap tama and use her as a hostage Ogasawara Shōsai killed her, killed himself, the people in the castle killed themselves too and burnt it down. . rumors say that tadaoki said to his retainers that if gracia's honor is in danger then kill her. .some say that gracia asked ogasawara to kill her. . questions- -who is ogasawara shōsai -what's a seppuku (i don't understand what wikipedia says) but they were buried in the same place by the way. . Edited by BlackKite, Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:03 am.
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| Kiheiji | Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:23 pm Post #2 |
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1. Hosokawa retainer I suppose. 2. Seppuku, or in a harsher term Harakiri,k is a method of suicide for Samurai. If you refuse to get captured, or you have done dishonorable conduct, then you may have too kill yourself. Tadaoki's life was endangered because his friendhip with Hideyoshi's nephew Hidetsusgu, who got excecuted after the birth of Hideyori. Tadaoki do aware that he could be next in line, but he didn't wanna die alone, so she asked Gracia to kill herself if that happens, but Gracia refuse because she was Christian. Mitsunari have a lot of enemies, that's why he held them hostage at Osaka, to force them to join him, or at least not attacking him. When he triy to took Gracia, she was already dead. It is said that Tadaoki told the retainers if Gracia's life is endangered, they must kill her and then themselves, and Gracia was prepared for it. |
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| Xiao Sooyoung | Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:58 am Post #3 |
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ouch! that's harsh . . |
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