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Will there be Samurai Warriors 3 for PS3/360?; is it going to be on there?
Topic Started: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:45 pm (19,438 Views)
Tae Seong Kim
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Stuff like this worries me and makes me wonder if I should buy this game for the Wii in the first place. Although the bundle set they are offering does look awesome,... but the price is still unknown!
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Tae Seong Kim
Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:32 pm
Stuff like this worries me and makes me wonder if I should buy this game for the Wii in the first place. Although the bundle set they are offering does look awesome,... but the price is still unknown!
In wondering to get this myself if i think there will be a 360 version later and if there is you can bet on there being added extras.

Still the Wii is a great value console for game prices, they are usually half the price of those of PS3 and 360 and even then KOEI are fantastic value price wise with their games... no £45 cash grabs from them. Also considering any release for the other consoles would be several months down the line i think it could well be worth the punt. I certainly have no problem with having 2 similar copies of the same game on different consoles if the latter happens to be the 360 my favoured console and has enough added features to be in its own sense a "special" or "XL" version of SW3.
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Spangler225
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Well being on different consoles surely would have many differences like graphics and maybe a new give or take.And the fact that you don't have to use a Wii mote will change things up a bit.As long as it does go on a PS3 within 6 months I'm fine.
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Infiny
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I really hope SW3 will be on next gen.
New characters are very charismatic !!
New system to :D
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SJFaith
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Infiny
Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:13 pm
I really hope SW3 will be on next gen.
New characters are very charismatic !!
New system to :D
It already is on Next Gen the Wii is a Seventh Gen console like the 360 and PS3 just it's graphics aren't up to scratch which doesn't bother some but does bother others.
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RockOn649
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well i hope they dont being a wii exclusive makes it special ihope koei doesn't go cheapo again and release it on PS3 & XBOX 460
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sogetsu kazama
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what I really hope is a port to PS3/360. I don't think it's a smart move to make it Wii exclusive. Wii is the most sold console, yes, but there are sooooo many casual gamers (not that I despise them) And SW is not a casual game!!. On top of that most koei lovers have moved to PS3/360 because Koei mad most of its game on them earlier. They simply risk to lose their fanbase!! Last but not least Sengoku Basara 3 comes for both Wii and PS3. SB is SW lethal enemy, I think commercial wise, it is dangerous for Koei...
Yet I have hope it will eventually come to PS3 (at least maybe 360 either) as a "special" edition, it would not be the first time and their fanbase would become larger.Somewhat happier too because this "Wii exclusive" seems to miscontent many, among those i stand. Why not PS2 either, after all they did it with dw6... . i keep my finger crossed...
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KOEI partnering with Nintendo on SW3 was to try and eliminate some of that "Wii is a casual game system" reputation.

Thing is, that might work in Japan where the Warriors series is well-received as a whole, but for the rest of the world ... :unsure:

The US & EU gamers (in general) are just as harsh on the Warriors games as they are on the Wii, so it might not work at all in our markets. Releasing SW3 on PS3/360 only earns points by being on the higher-def consoles, but will still get slammed for being a Warriors game :/
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Mr.Honda
Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:03 pm
KOEI partnering with Nintendo on SW3 was to try and eliminate some of that "Wii is a casual game system" reputation.

Thing is, that might work in Japan where the Warriors series is well-received as a whole, but for the rest of the world ... :unsure:

The US & EU gamers (in general) are just as harsh on the Warriors games as they are on the Wii, so it might not work at all in our markets. Releasing SW3 on PS3/360 only earns points by being on the higher-def consoles, but will still get slammed for being a Warriors game :/
+1. You just basicly said the point, which I agree with.
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Xalfrea
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So, either way it's screwed.

A. It stays on the Wii, gets released in the US, gets bashed.

B. It gets ported to PS3/360, they take one look and see it's a Warriors game, it gets bashed.

No matter which way it goes, it'll still get blasted to no end amongst general western gamers and be the subject of joke for sites like Gamespot, IGNorant and X-Play.
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The Nightbringer
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SW3 as it is, probably not. They will definitely port it with extra features and such, either new stories for characters, new difficulty(ies) and updated graphics though.
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Mr.Honda
Mon Dec 7, 2009 9:03 pm
KOEI partnering with Nintendo on SW3 was to try and eliminate some of that "Wii is a casual game system" reputation.

Thing is, that might work in Japan where the Warriors series is well-received as a whole, but for the rest of the world ... :unsure:

The US & EU gamers (in general) are just as harsh on the Warriors games as they are on the Wii, so it might not work at all in our markets. Releasing SW3 on PS3/360 only earns points by being on the higher-def consoles, but will still get slammed for being a Warriors game :/
ps3 vers been comfirmed by koei and they will have kratos as a new charecter his weps are the following,double blades->hydra blades->blades of chaos->athenas blades (i freakin wish <_< )
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when I read the beggining of the post I thought he was serious :XD If I do get this for thr Wii I going to get the Classic controller with it! but if it comes near $60 then Im waiting for a PS3 port.
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Zuocii
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Judging by everyone's reactions to SW:Katana...lets hope it comes on PS3/360
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Xalfrea
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Katana and SW3 are nothing alike. Just saying, because it's pretty stupid how people compare two completely different games.
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sogetsu kazama
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Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:10 am
LOL Okay time for my wacky logic to enter this thread (and yes you will all ahte me for it but who cares, i like to speak my mind)

I think its probable that there will be a port, but only by a 51% chance, with a 49% chance of no port, for exactly the same reason people have been saying there will be a port, because Companies, love money.

Now, your all probably thinking i'm crazy right now, but hear me out, please, the actual cost to simply port it to the PS3 AND 360 without any changes would be beyond your beliefs, it isn't cheap and easy, and if they want to increase the graphics by anyway it will cost even MORE! So Koei will only port it if there is 100% chance of profit gain, high profit gain at that, they wont port it if they only get 100$ more.


Also, so many Wiis have sold in Japan its the highest selling consol in Japan, so if they port it to PS3 and 360 most people will already have it and its not likely they will buy it, also, the western audience is such a low number, that they honestly don't care much about us, they will sell it on wii, and the fans will buy wiis solely for SW3, your already seeing living proff on this board, and majority (about 75% i presume) of fans on this board will buy a Wii for this game, thus getting a sustantial amount of profit for Koei.

Now if they do port it to PS3 (in Japan) they most likely wont port it to 360 because that consol is almost near inexistent in Japan, so that also lessens the profit value to one consol. Now the PS3 is lonely, no 360 to help raise profits, and since most people already have the game, the standards and money that porting it to the PS3 would just not be worth it and they will only lose money.

So, there is my pessimistic, crackpot logic, take it with a grain of salt. Thats just the way i like to look at things when it money gets involved, sorry for getting so realistic and logical.

I think you're right in many ways, still I hope for a PS3/ 360 port
First it's KOEI, they convert any game to any platform usually
Second you say it'll cost them much to port, I'm not that sure. look thy're making Strikeforce from PSP to PS3!! they've done Musou Orochi Z based on PS2!
Last you say that fans won't buy another version if they have it on Wii, I wouldn't bet on it. Especially if they cut the castle (which they will because it is nintendo property) and fill the blank with other features.
They did DW6 special on PS2 (has anyone understood that yet?) so why not?
I keep my finger crossed, I really hope for a port instead of buying a Wii for this game (my wife would be displeased..)

@chou-hi: You're right about the costs, I think, though there might have been removed features for example and things like thoses planned for an XL that might be put in,hence lowering the costs in developments.
Still my point was not about costs but about marketing. what is the point of ports from PSP to PS3 (and 360!) or from PS2 to PS3 (that can read PS2 disk) if not multiplatform sells and subsequent profits. The code may be different, but it'is not that hard to convert, they have tools for it, and they won't do it from scratch either
Edited by sogetsu kazama, Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:32 am.
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Chou Hi
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sogetsu kazama
Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:32 am
I think you're right in many ways, still I hope for a PS3/ 360 port
First it's KOEI, they convert any game to any platform usually
Second you say it'll cost them much to port, I'm not that sure. look thy're making Strikeforce from PSP to PS3!! they've done Musou Orochi Z based on PS2!
Actually, your point misses one detail that actually strengthens Xanxus' argument (though I disagree on the high value of 51%, sorry).

Your argument that the porting doesn't cost much is based on ports between PSP, PS3, and PS2 - all Sony systems. This means that while the hardware isn't the same, they are all based on a similar architecture (which makes the backwards compatibility much easier to implement, as well). Xbox's architecture, while different from Sony's is still similar enough that ports generally aren't too difficult; small changes here and there can be implemented with good modular design. HOWEVER, the Nintendo architecture is much more different than that of the other two. As such, most low-level code and data would have to be remade from scratch, which costs a lot more than a change from PSP to PS3 or PS3 to Xbox360.

As such, we're talking about a lot more cost for the lower profit margins than we'd be talking about otherwise. Not to mention, even if they don't updated the graphics (which would probably hurt more than help them) to keep costs down, KOEI would have to be mad to drop the Murasame Mode IP without having something to replace it. Assuming the worst-case scenario that the 7 FMO characters get stories (the best being that as well as new characters), then we're still talking about additional story writing, scenario planning, movie making, and voice acting. Assuming this total cost is a 4th of the original game costs (since 7 is about a 4th of 30 - I'm pulling this number out of my ass; I actually expect it to cost more), unless they company can be guaranteed a 25% increase in sales (on top of the sales to make back the additional non-development costs - paying the voice actors a second time for using their voices again, manufacturing, marketing, retail, etc.), the chances of the game being ported is closer to slim-to-none.
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totally agree with Chou hi , the costs of changing from WII to 360 or the sony sytems will cost alot more , re-creating alot of the game itself , koei ( as we know them) , wouldnt do this as far as i know . The chances are slim as have been said before .

They SHOULD of developed the game on 360 or ps3 and worked backwards , covering all consoles it would of been cheaper for them , they would of definately madfe more sales -making more money in the long run. Sure,it probably wont be out as soon as this now , but i think everyone is willing to sacrifices that for a better game on all consoles = everyones happy...
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Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:15 am
They SHOULD of developed the game on 360 or ps3 and worked backwards , covering all consoles it would of been cheaper for them
They tried that it's called DW6 Special or rather Dynasty Fail 6 Special since it FAILED on such a high level <_<

Working backwards is a big no no and it would be very idiotic of them to go forward one step and then back another 2 by doing that again -_-

EDIT: you should fix your sig since it exceeds the 5 Line limit ;)
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Hopefully there will be a port,since WO has had tons of ports.Even DW6 has had some ports.Who knows,KOEI always has plenty of surprises
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Hmmm, I think they should port it for the fans that has been playing on the gaming consoles they have been releasing it on for years..Why make a jump to the Wii? About the bashing issue, I could care less with all those people (IGN, X-Play, ect reviewers) because we, the players, kept this series alive with our loyalty/obsession(for many years, lol, replaying SW2 remixed with SW2XL again from level 1). And to be honest, I am hoping for a port to other consoles. Sengoku Basara 3 (I think that's the name) looks like a fresh new game that I want to try and luckily ~ PS3 and Wii.. If only Koei would do the same...
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Hmmm, I think they should port it for the fans that has been playing on the gaming consoles they have been releasing it on for years..Why make a jump to the Wii? About the bashing issue, I could care less with all those people (IGN, X-Play, ect reviewers) because we, the players, kept this series alive with our loyalty/obsession(for many years, lol, replaying SW2 remixed with SW2XL again from level 1). And to be honest, I am hoping for a port to other consoles. Sengoku Basara 3 (I think that's the name) looks like a fresh new game that I want to try and luckily ~ PS3 and Wii.. If only Koei would do the same...
Yeah I agree, Sengoku Basara 3 looks something like SW3 should've looked like (graphic and gameplay-wise).
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I was thinking of why Sengoku Basara 3 looks so good and why SW3 looked..ehh, how to put it.. like it is still on the PS2? I would have thought SW3 would have been like that as well. :blink: Maybe I shouldn't be putting down SW3's graphics, but great game nonetheless! :lol: I would pre-order SW3 for PS3 anyday.
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port or no port i have a Wii, no ps3, or 360. -_- so this being on the wii as you can imagine was great news for me to hear as i very much enjoy SW out of the two, and it made it reachable to me lol. tbh i don't really care about this port nonsense anymore. i mean i kinda made up my mind where thats concerned, because at first i was thinking the same thing "why wouldn't they port it as long as they still sell an english version for the wii" and listening to both sides of it, i.e. PORT vs. NO PORT, both made good points. i think it was chou hi that made alot of valid points to me that out weighed most others because of the main thing being a money issue, that its alot more difficult to port than one might think (i already thought about this), and the big fact that econmy isn't in the best of shape right now, well atleast in America its not. imo i just think people shouldn't assume, not saying that everyone is, just for those who are assuming based on koei's so called pattern, which the only pattern i see is that koei does what they want, just to not get hopes up so high because thats how feelings get hurt and people get upset.

as for me as long as it COMES to the US (and EU for those of you over there ^_^ ) and dosen't get cancelled like WOZ i'm happy ^_^ . and I mean hey why not get a wii if you don't have one :huh: ? they're like atleast 100$ cheaper than the ps3 and with the right discounts even cheaper ;) I mean I want SF2 but i have no PSP so i'm going to get one ^_^ , and who knows there might be another game on the psp that i like later on and i'll have psp by then so its an investment ^_^ lol. atleast thats from one perspective ya know?
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As a fellow Wii owner as well, this was great news to me. But in this whole argument thing, I'm rather uncaring. If it gets ported fine, if it doesn't, fine also.

Same thing with Tatsunoko VS Capcom, which is a far, FAR better example of this port nonsense.

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