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| Next Gen Vs. Old Gen; Which Generation was better? | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 29 2009, 01:56 AM (709 Views) | |
| Imnon00b5 | Oct 29 2009, 01:56 AM Post #1 |
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Bascially was dw4/dw5 (Whichever you choose) better than the new games dw6/dw6:Emp? To me it seems double sided the next generation has better controls and graphics IMO and better attires to but dw4/5 has Better MOVESETS, Awsome story campiagns which goes a little more in-depth on the characters, longer musuo gameplay, and better strategies (I mean in dw6 targets were kind of weak) What do you vote for? |
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| Dai Tian | Oct 29 2009, 08:23 AM Post #2 |
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I think it's a little unfair to make the comparison right now, considering that Dynasty 6 is not only rushed but also Dynasty Warriors 2007. (Released in 2007 in Japan. And think about it, 6 is basically a really pretty reimagining of 2). The New Gen only has one installment of Dynasty compared to Old Gen's four. Still, I'd have to go with the Old Gen. Not only because Dynasty 5 was so much more complete compared to 6 but also because the Old Gen has Dynasty Warriors 3. 6 wishes it was as fun to play as 3. Dynasty 6's way of doing things does have potential, I'm not going to deny that. If Koei actually pulls something special with Dynasty 7, whenever that'll be then it might actually be something to see. In its current state, it's very little match for the Old Gen. |
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| Andreas-andi | Oct 29 2009, 08:28 AM Post #3 |
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I am from Germany. I can not speak english well. I am a big Dynasty Warriors fan since 7 years. I think, "Dynasty Warriors 3" was the best Dynasty Warriors game. And, I think, "Dynasty Warriors 3" is the best Dynasty Warriors game ever! My vote is for "Dynasty Warriors 3" ! Edited by Andreas-andi, Oct 29 2009, 08:39 AM.
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| Imnon00b5 | Oct 29 2009, 08:55 PM Post #4 |
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???Where was dw3 in the poll? k |
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| Mitsuhide M | Oct 31 2009, 11:12 AM Post #5 |
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No , Dw4 was the best . |
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| SJFaith | Oct 31 2009, 11:44 AM Post #6 |
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I liked 3, 4 and 5 to begin with but i have to admit they were getting a tad too repetitive but i like DW6 and it's expansions Better because it's been Reinvented and although it was rushed KOEI can fix it which they've been trying to do. So My vote goes to DW6 and it's expansions 
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| SmitanSaxon | Oct 31 2009, 12:19 PM Post #7 |
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^How is DW6 no differerent than the others? A redesign doesn't change the fact that it too is also repetitive. Renbu- button mashing is still button mashing. And graphics don't define the entertainment level of a game. I chose old gen because my fondest memories were with DW3 and 4, not that bull**** DW6. Edited by SmitanSaxon, Oct 31 2009, 12:20 PM.
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| Ghost Of Da Qiao | Oct 31 2009, 12:32 PM Post #8 |
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I loved DW3 the most, that was and always will be the most funnest of Koei games to play to me. Everything was properly done. DW4 sort of confused me. DW5 was very well done and worked well with Xtreme Legends but still copied things from DW3/4. 6 established very natural and intimate storylines, but as for gameplay, DW3 will always win. u_U I support the older Generations soley because DW3 was part of it. It was the foundation of every future DW series, and mostly Graphics could save the difference. |
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| iluvjrpg | Oct 31 2009, 10:58 PM Post #9 |
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i voted dw4/5, but I'm sure koei learned what they did wrong in 6 and if a 7 comes out then I'm sure all the problems will be fixed |
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| JasBell | Oct 31 2009, 11:02 PM Post #10 |
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For me it was DW6/DW6E. I know it was rushed but koei got the scenery and everything just right in this series. This shows what Koei is capable to do with Next Gen consoles. I hope to see DW7 will live up to be as great as DW4 though. |
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| Zhuge Zhan | Nov 1 2009, 01:57 AM Post #11 |
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sincerely,i prefer dw6/e.i only think koei did wrong in choosing chars for dw6.come one,koei was stupid on dw6.they made storylines for dian wei and did not make for xiahou yuan(example).koei's mistakes is that they cut chars instead of adding,and they didn't do storylines for everyone |
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| ChibiGingi | Nov 1 2009, 04:54 AM Post #12 |
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Definitely old gen. for me. I know my complaints about DW6 are long and stating my reasons now would just be like beating a dead horse, but all in all, I just enjoyed DW3-DW5 so much more than I have DW6. Empires was alright, as far as an Empires game goes, but there were just too many cuts and clones, and lack of story made the game very, very boring. Now, assuming Koei gets their fingers out their ass anytime soon in regards to the DW team, I'll be more than happy to accept DW7... so long as it's not a repeat of DW6. |
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| Imnon00b5 | Nov 1 2009, 05:23 AM Post #13 |
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A lot of votes goes for Older Gen and i can see why PArtially its the classic movesets like take Zhang HE his Moveset exceled greatly his musuo special was also powerful and creative and his claws were quick Now take his dw6 moveset its to mediocere and girly now Then theres Sun Ce Tonfas and Ma Chao's special spear. Now dont get me wrong his Fu Xi sword is cool but i prefer the old Ma Chao weapon where he spins and twirls around and if he had that moveset in renubu mode it wouldve been awsome Then theres the cutscnes where if like say Ling Tong and GanNing meet a cutcense would appear and they would argue or even fight but now its a small message "Oh hey Gan Ning is ahead of me"? But what i like about dw6 is the renubu system (just wish the movesets in the renubu system would be better) |
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| ChibiGingi | Nov 1 2009, 05:32 AM Post #14 |
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Well, don't get me wrong. There were a few things I did like about DW6, and that was the more personal story modes for a lot of the characters. GRANTED, because of the direction some of them took they ended up either being completely forgettable (Zhao Yun's), downright boring (Xiahou Dun's), or were just some excuse to draw in the wangst lovers (seriously, how many times are we going to have a Lu Meng death scene and a tragic scream to the heavens? Ugh...). But I applaud Koei for having some more depth in the few stories they had. I just hated the lot of them. Seriously, how do you turn Xiahou Dun into a snoozefest just seems impossible. HE ATE HIS OWN EYE. You can't make a guy like that boring, but they DID! |
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| Imnon00b5 | Nov 2 2009, 01:58 AM Post #15 |
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lol thats true his musuo was extremly dull he was more the "AHARGGGG" but noe hes the "To battle....." Na i liked the lu Xun scene and Gan Ning scene about Lu MEng Lu XUn: Ahraragarag!!!! Gan Ning: OLD MAN!... LU MENG! |
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| ChibiGingi | Nov 2 2009, 02:54 AM Post #16 |
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Don't get me wrong, I love drama, but if angers me that my favorite character is only important enough to DIE. Guess I should be grateful... of all the non story mode characters, at least he seemed to be one of the more important ones to show up in most of Wu's stories as an important character and not just cameo space. Can't say that about a lot of other characters, really. |
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| *Burning* Devil Scholar | Nov 2 2009, 10:35 PM Post #17 |
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It will have to be the next-gen games for me. It had to move forward at some point, and I find DW6 more engaging with the fresher graphics and movesets/renbu. Things will most likely get better for the series, DW7 will be out one day in the world after all. I like the way things are now though, no more drastic changes for awhile. In the next game I hope all those de-cloned keep there movesets, the odd tweak here and there isn't a problem of course. But those who have lost their limelight and are cloned e.g. Xu Huang, Wei Yan, Huang Zhong, Zhou Tai etc, all of them really, fully get their revamp, then everyone can be happy with a full, capable game. I was lucky with Lu Meng, although he's a clone, he wasn''t ignored and was in varioys cutscenes for the Wu characters, which I have to be grateful for I guess. Edited by *Burning* Devil Scholar, Nov 2 2009, 10:36 PM.
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| Skode | Nov 3 2009, 01:25 AM Post #18 |
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The older games by a mile, the charge attacks added uniqueness to the characters and this even more hit home when you realised most of the next gen cast were cloned or even cut. The Renbu system is KOEI gaming for three year olds... as long as you can hit the X button then you have master Renbu unlike Charge attacks which were diverse and unique enough to mean you had to master each character to when to use which charge for tough officers, area clearing etc depending on the circumstance. As for better graphics i agree they were awesome and i loved climbing up ladders and trying to sack forts but prettier graphics at the expense of fun factor isnt ideal for me... i mean to celebrate the revamp they litterly started again with lots of the cast making some almost unregnisable and not for the better (SSX anyone). I was actually relieved and elated to see the likes of Taishi Ci and Zhang He be reverted to the old weapons and styles I for one was glad when SW3 remained old skool in its gameplay and hope DW goes back to the ways of old (with the same next gen graphics of course). The Renbu system just dumbed down the games too much for me and speaking of dumbing down the stategy elements on DW6E were so bare unlike in previous games it really was all down you personally beating down the enemies battle after battle as the likes of mass recruitement and meaningful reinforcements/alliances were all but gone on it. The only positive i can think for the new style of DW over the old is that its abolutely tailer made for Strikeforces forray into next gen consoles and the more fluid freeflowing combos that come with mashing that same button over and over will at least have depth with other players and aerial attacks expanding the experience i hope ten fold to what it offers on DW6 and DW6E |
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| Raiko Z | Nov 3 2009, 02:02 AM Post #19 |
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I think DW4 is better. I feel very hard in that game. And also the gameplay time is long, more tactical. DW5 is getting easier and more simple. Weak tactical and stuff |
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| SmitanSaxon | Nov 3 2009, 02:04 AM Post #20 |
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Couldn't have put it better myself. |
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| SJFaith | Nov 3 2009, 02:11 AM Post #21 |
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Hmm lets see here You couldn't Climb in DW2-5 You couldn't Swim in DW2-5 You couldn't Grab/Throw Enemies in DW2-5 You Couldn't Make your horse Jump in DW2-5 You Couldn't Run fast in DW2-5 (without using the Speed boots) i don't like the DW2-5 as much as i used to because they seriously milked the hell out of that gameplay by using it yet again in the WO series (Minus the 3 team feature) I'm glad they reinvented it i'm just disappointed in it's flaws is all, some people do need to realise the Glory days of DW2-5 are long gone and need to move on with the times.
I couldn't agree with you more at least there's someone who can see past the flaws of how wonderful DW6 looks but who knows maybe we'll be able to actually walk on water by the time DW7 Comes out 
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| SmitanSaxon | Nov 3 2009, 02:18 AM Post #22 |
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And what major impact did that have? As for the glory days, DW2-5, particularly DW3 and 4 have the honor of being "classics." I'd much rather sacrifice minor adjustments to relive the glory days. |
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| SJFaith | Nov 3 2009, 02:22 AM Post #23 |
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^ it keeps people on the series by not being so repetitive remember some people listen to critics and some of the awful ratings past DW games got does put people off the series when WO2 got a 3/10 rating i was shocked but it made a point that some people had enough. But now that they've reinvented DW's gameplay they can really do something with it other than mindless milking of it again. |
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| The Trojan Horse | Nov 3 2009, 02:23 AM Post #24 |
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Empire 6 is better with the officer mode, better difficulty and the large armies. Empire 5 is better due to the ruler mode and events. So neither is superior to the other. Hope Koei combines the best of both and really puts out a decent game. Early DW games, has better events, and storylines. While 6 has some very cool features on the battlefield. Again combining the best of both will win me over, until they do, I can't really say one is better, just different. |
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| SJFaith | Nov 3 2009, 02:36 AM Post #25 |
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Thank You Trojan horse you summed up more or less there each DW game does have something that makes it different to the other ones.
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