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Samurai Warriors 3 [V3]; J Release: December 3rd, 2009, on Wii
Topic Started: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:49 pm (272,137 Views)
Clairvoyant avenger
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Seraphil
Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:00 am
No way. Also watch Motonari's videos and you'll see Ginchiyo is way more headstrong and virulent than you're assuming. Heck, in that video you just mentioned, the fact she attacked first, and continues to charge in immediately is pretty solid proof of how aggressive she is. And in every stage(I've played through so far, which is many) with the Tachibana as one of the sides, Ginchiyo is commander and Muneshige is the follower. Then at the end, instead of meekly complying with Muneshige, she returns on her own decision.

I don't know how she could possibly be any more assertive and aggressive than she is in SW3.
yea it's too bad historically she didn't love Muneshige so I can see why ginchiyo's improved...
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^How do you know? Any source?

And marriages back in Sengoku are 75% for political gain. Ichi didn't marry Nagamasa because she loved him.
Edited by Kiheiji, Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:15 am.
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SRS
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At first Ginchiyo doesn't express any love for Muneshige. But then, SW3 has given us something very good that was missing in large part in some previous Musou game: solid character development.
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Clairvoyant avenger
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Seraphil
Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:13 am
At first Ginchiyo doesn't express any love for Muneshige. But then, SW3 has given us something very good that was missing in large part in some previous Musou game: solid character development.
that's true seraphil also Ginchiyo & other female in the sengoku were forced & alot of them kill themselves too NOT THAT GINCHIYO KILLED HERSELF SHE DIED AT 34 or soYRS OLD
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Ye, Ginchiyo died of natural causes, just like Komatsu, Nene, and Aya and many more. I don't think many women back then forced to kill themselves. The one I remember the most is Sena.
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Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:24 am
Ye, Ginchiyo died of natural causes, just like Komatsu, Nene, and Aya and many more. I don't think many women back then forced to kill themselves. The one I remember the most is Sena.
yea because of Nobunaga's short-temperness & also Cerebral Assassin NO they weren't forced lot of them did cuz being raped, shame & other "honor" mentalities per-se lol
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Say whatever you want about the girls.

And yes, Nobunaga's action(s) can't really be called 'act of benevolence' but I suppose every daimyo has done at least one bad thing.

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Muneshige's story seems interesting, I say. I find his life to be interesting. Look forward to play him.
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Clairvoyant avenger
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Cerebral Assassin
Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:39 am
Say whatever you want about the girls.

And yes, Nobunaga's action(s) can't really be called 'act of benevolence' but I suppose every daimyo has done at least one bad thing.

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Muneshige's story seems interesting, I say. I find his life to be interesting. Look forward to play him.
yea i agree with ya & BOUT the girls I didn't mean anything offense to you like that just saying but yea muneshige's story, weapon & moveset look great i wonder how his other weapons look like
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Seraphil
Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:00 am
No way. Also watch Motonari's videos and you'll see Ginchiyo is way more headstrong and virulent than you're assuming. Heck, in that video you just mentioned, the fact she attacked first, and continues to charge in immediately is pretty solid proof of how aggressive she is. And in every stage(I've played through so far, which is many) with the Tachibana as one of the sides, Ginchiyo is commander and Muneshige is the follower. Then at the end, instead of meekly complying with Muneshige, she returns on her own decision.

I don't know how she could possibly be any more assertive and aggressive than she is in SW3.
So basically she wears the pants in the relationship?

If so that's awesome.
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Clairvoyant avenger
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Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:01 am
Seraphil
Tue Dec 8, 2009 7:00 am
No way. Also watch Motonari's videos and you'll see Ginchiyo is way more headstrong and virulent than you're assuming. Heck, in that video you just mentioned, the fact she attacked first, and continues to charge in immediately is pretty solid proof of how aggressive she is. And in every stage(I've played through so far, which is many) with the Tachibana as one of the sides, Ginchiyo is commander and Muneshige is the follower. Then at the end, instead of meekly complying with Muneshige, she returns on her own decision.

I don't know how she could possibly be any more assertive and aggressive than she is in SW3.
So basically she wears the pants in the relationship?

If so that's awesome.
Game-wise she does BUT historically Muneshige Did LOL not that it matter there both known warriors & characters for game-wise
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Clairvoyant avenger
Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:05 am
Game-wise she does BUT historically Muneshige Did LOL not that it matter there both known warriors & characters for game-wise
No, it doesn't matter here how their relationship was or how her life ended in history.

What we're more concerned with is the characterisation of the character as she was compared to the last game and this one. Koei can sometimes very extremely bad in portraying the characters that become wives, and there was a lot of worry she would lose her bite and spark and just be wholly devoted to Muneshige.

And she isn't. Like Seraphil said, Ginchiyo is pretty dominant in their relationship and she's still very aggressive in the game. And yeah, you can see this in Motonari's videos pretty well.
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Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:11 am
Clairvoyant avenger
Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:05 am
Game-wise she does BUT historically Muneshige Did LOL not that it matter there both known warriors & characters for game-wise
No, it doesn't matter here how their relationship was or how her life ended in history.

What we're more concerned with is the characterisation of the character as she was compared to the last game and this one. Koei can sometimes very extremely bad in portraying the characters that become wives, and there was a lot of worry she would lose her bite and spark and just be wholly devoted to Muneshige.

And she isn't. Like Seraphil said, Ginchiyo is pretty dominant in their relationship and she's still very aggressive in the game. And yeah, you can see this in Motonari's videos pretty well.
also KOEI has a bad habit of having to different "version" of their characters as example their are some time either different, brought down of up Just becuase to the way here in america way talk compare to Japan's way of life I HATE that they should keep all there characters gimmicks, persona, & mentalities the same & just entirely focus on the other problem american VA's especially how they butchered Keiji's SW2 voice
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Just glad she didn't get a full frontal lobotomy like SSX did in DW6 where she's nothing more than Liu Bei's idiot lap dog now ugh.... what an awful case of character assassination...
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SRS
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I'll say right now, despite the positive things I've said about Agilesound doing the SW2 dub, I'm actually happy now that they won't be doing SW3 because the emotional scenes were one of their weaker performances.

At the same time, I'm still apprehensive of any other studio doing it. Compared to many previous Musou games, SW3 has too many parts that could really fail badly with a sub-par dub.
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I just don't want to hear Steve freaking BLUM as every other character in the game. Sick of him. :|

Bring in some real talent.
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Blum's actually a good VA, as far as I've seen. I wouldn't mind them bringing back the VA group that did SM1, and the Dynasty Warriors games, I just hope they take it seriously this time. I remember that although the actors who did SM1 were experienced professionals, they seemingly did not take the project that seriously, because some of the performances (as far as I remember) were either half-assed or down right atrocious, and weren't nearly as good as how they performed in DW.

But then again, even if they do put up a weak performance, I hope they'll at least have language options like in the first game (assuming ports to PS3 and XB360 can fit the tracks).
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So Naomasa Li is the last NPC? O.o
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Um no. That's been disproven a long time ago.
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Well, wonder if someone already posted this:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9031762
Yukimura with his ultimate weapon.

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Baphomet
Tue Dec 8, 2009 8:01 am
So basically she wears the pants in the relationship?

If so that's awesome.
Not really. They really don't have a deep enough relationship at this point for either of them to be wearing the pants. And if anything, regarding their relationship, Muneshige is the more steel-willed of the two, and his story expands on that perfectly.

Not saying Ginchiyo isn't strong either, she's still just as much as a warrior as she was in the last game. However Muneshige and their relationship seems to be the one point where her fierce barrier she keeps on all the time falters somewhat.
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I smell Tachibana fight!

@Seraphil, it's good to know that there will be some depth and emotion in this installment.
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No, I never said she wears the pants. That sort of view on relationships doesn't apply here: Ginchiyo and Muneshige are basically equals, or rather two parts of a whole. They display some impressive teamwork, and to be able to rely on someone else to back you up when you need it is a sign of real strength, not weakness.

Edit: This just suddenly crossed my mind. I think the reason why people are so surprised at the new stories is because everyone has forgotten what the theme of SW3 is.

Bonds. The bonds of relationships, the bonds of allies, the bonds of those dear to you in some way, even the bonds of those you are destined to cross swords with. This is present in every single story.

Yukimura's sibling bond with Inahime, Ujiyasu's bond with his family and retainers, Ieyasu's bond with Nobunaga and Hideyoshi, Mitsuhide's bond with Motochika, Hanzo's bond with Nene, Kenshin's bond with Aya...
Edited by SRS, Tue Dec 8, 2009 11:52 am.
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So...Agile Sound Isn't doing SW 3?

...Considering Hideyoshi's VA in WO and WO2, I have little to no hope for the acting. Say what you will about Agile Sound, but I though Hideyoshi was dead on perfect. If they re use his WO Voice actor once more, I'll have to mute any and every Cut scene that he's in. :C
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Bonds, eh?

It would be better if Tsunashige and Ujimasa have unique appereances.
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Scott
Tue Dec 8, 2009 11:52 am
If they re use his WO Voice actor once more, I'll have to mute any and every Cut scene that he's in. :C
And that is why I never buy localized Musou games anymore. Well its not limited to Hideyoshi cause I honestly don't care for him but you get the general idea.


I'm guessing that the western market versions won't have an alternative voice track? Or at least it isn't likely.
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