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| Samurai Warriors 3 [V3]; J Release: December 3rd, 2009, on Wii | |
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| LoW | Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:26 pm Post #3526 |
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Legend
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But you don't want fiction, so Oichi would only have interaction with three characters: Nobunaga, Nagamasa and Katsuie (and perhaps No). And then they wouldn't have no choice but to recycle her same story with a few changes here and there. As you can see, KOEI really can't take much liberties with characters if they don't add any fiction (see Hideyoshi's SW2 story). I'd say this is the reason why they made Motochika and Mitsuhide so close. Motochika would be lonely otherwise and be only involved in 2-3 battles. At least in his case KOEI did the right thing and did not recycle his XL story. |
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| Fūma | Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:17 pm Post #3527 |
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The Dragon Has Returned
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You are right, actually. But besides, I don't care for Oichi's story at all. But about Hideyoshi's story, he could have interaction with nearly every character in the game, as his story timeline could get anywhere from 1560-1590 (nearly all, if not actually all, characters could interact with him in his story). IMO, Hideyoshi is a character who doesn't need any fiction to his story, because he can literally interact with every character in his story. But you are right about Oichi. Though, she could always interact with any Oda officer, but whatever. |
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| Zero38 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:10 pm Post #3528 |
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The Dancing Flower of The Night.
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Wow .. are you even a fan? complaining about s series you love ..? I don't understand you.. I love My games .. & I'm happy .. I can't wait for SW4.5.6,etc |
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| Raiko Z | Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:26 pm Post #3529 |
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Dynasty Recon Chinalands
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Better they not make the review if just hate SW and only play on Easy difficulty then also never try to obtain the secrets. Edited by Raiko Z, Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:30 pm.
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| Amicable | Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:38 pm Post #3530 |
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"Professional" game reviewers can hardly be taken seriously. Look at this picture: ![]() They're all a big joke. I'd much rather have a review of an ordinary, independent guy who knows what he's doing and does not let his reviews get made by the number of advertisments by "insert game here" on his site. |
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| qewlkid9 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:08 pm Post #3531 |
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And this is where I stopped caring about your post and your opinion along with it. Because I did no bashing of any kind, what-so-ever. Sera is a mod, I spoke to him directly with this so called "bashing" and received no warning or ban of any kind. By saying that I was bashing him, you are saying that he is not doing his job as moderator correctly, no?
God Hand was a **** game. It deserved a 3.0 in my opinion. And you seriously think that God Hand and that... baby game, where reviewed by the same person? That they have only one reviewer that rates every type of game? Psh. I'm sure the reviewer who is responsible for reviewing family-oriented (or whatever genre you want to place that garbage in) reviewed that game, while whoever was in charge of action-esque games reviewed God Hand. And they specialize in reviewing those types of games and would rate according to their genre that they are supposed to be rating. Whose to say that Imagine Party Babyz isn't a good, clean party game? To party game standards it's quite possible. But if you ask anyone who rates games like "GOD HAND" you'll get a different opinion. And, again, since when has a review mattered in the first place? Edited by qewlkid9, Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:09 pm.
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| Zero38 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:11 pm Post #3532 |
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^ It looks mattering When you pissed off alot of us here + you are not a fan ... Seraphil tried.. & you're strong to your opinion that these games are bad.. If you think The games getting repeated..Just play the first 3 games of DW & play the first 1 of SW ,, The games are summarizing the story for us... Oichi will always interact with oda officers... The game is cool for me & That Review is bad .. I don't care anyways... Japanese reviews are the best for Games like this Edited by Zero38, Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:17 pm.
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| Chou Hi | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:15 pm Post #3533 |
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Weapon... I have it all!
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I would like to briefly point out that we've only received a preview, not a review. This means they have NOT necessarily gotten a copy of the retail version of the western Samurai Warriors 3. A bad preview does not necessarily mean a bad review. And a Great preview does not necessarily mean a Great review. I imagine that the analysis done for a preview is different than the analysis done for a review. After all, a preview is generally the "at first glance" material. And in-as-much, yes, at first glance all Musou games look alike, and at first glance, it's a bit surprising that there is no motion controls. But whether or not this means it's a good game or not will have to wait until the review itself. |
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| qewlkid9 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:17 pm Post #3534 |
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It wasn't my intention to piss everyone off. It was my intention to state my personal opinion about a regular review that everyone here made a big deal over: "I WOULD RIP HIS BALLS OFF" Don't say that I'm not a fan when I've played Koei games since I was around 11 years old, played every Warriors game since then, and joined this site two years before you did. Seraphil gave his opinion, which was against mine. And yes, I have a strong opinion because, again, 90% of the people here didn't look at the review at a different respective. Just the fanboy perspective: "HE DIDN'T GIVE OUR GAME A GOOD REVIEW. LETS RIP HIS BALLS OFF. IF IT'S A GIRL, THEN LETS SHRED HER BREASTS WITH A PAPER SHREDDER." The sad thing is, I'm not making these quotes up, because similar posts were made to those, before I posted.
Edited by qewlkid9, Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:25 pm.
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| Chou Hi | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:26 pm Post #3535 |
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Weapon... I have it all!
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Personally, I just attribute things to the inability of the majority to read. After all, the reviewer's name is at the bottom of the article. But these are the same people who can't even be bothered to check what has been said since they last posted, resulting in much repetition. But so is the life of the average forum-goer on the internet. There are many above averages who know better; there are many who are below average and should have their ISPs revoked, but at the average is just blindness at will.... (poor will). |
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| Zero38 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:27 pm Post #3536 |
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^ They are Fanboys.. They love their Games .. That's all well... It's looks like you are not a fan anymore.. Because As What you said.. Every game after DW6 is bad..... So that means You are saying Bye-bye To the series? |
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| qewlkid9 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:31 pm Post #3537 |
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Wow. Who are you to decide who is a fan and who isn't? Just because I'm arguing with a "fan" doesn't mean that I'm not a "fan". The fact that you don't take the time to read my posts and then understand them (although I'm sure that's too hard for you) is your own fault, and it only makes you look.... unintelligent, to say the least. You're the prime example of the 90% factor I was explaining yesterday. |
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| Zero38 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:34 pm Post #3538 |
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Well... No .. It's not My fault If I can't understand well & English is not My first Language.. But At least I can see how you are beginning to hate the game.. Anyways I don't want to talk more about this because you will never listen to anyone... Last thing
It's clear here that you are disliking it... If It's your opinion why do you want us to admit? Edited by Zero38, Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:39 pm.
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| qewlkid9 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:53 pm Post #3539 |
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Okay, first of all, I wasn't aware that English was a second language to you, and I apologize for that. However, I stlll don't think you (nor anyone, for that matter) understands what I am saying. I've been in love with Koei's games since I was a kid. So to see them make games, like Dynasty Warriors 6, badly, makes me frustrated. They make a ton of characters, more-so than most games, but they'll make half of them clones, or wont give story modes to more than 80% of them. It makes absolutely no sense to me. They didn't do things like that in the past.... Dynasty Warriors 5 and Samurai Warriors 2 were Koei's greatest games, in my opinion. Then when there is an obvious bad review, people make it a big deal. Like it is some sort of surprise to them. WHY?! The fans should be more aware that Koei made a badly-developed game more than anyone. So why do the fans make a big deal out of a review saying so? I come to these forums to get the latest info on Koei games, before even Koei releases the info. I don't come here to read a bunch of posts from whining fanboys complaining about yet another biased review.... especially when that biased review is expected: Koei has gotten negatively biased reviews since Dynasty Warriors 4... maybe even sooner on than that. And just because I am upset with the way Koei is developing their games does not mean I haven't stopped being a fan, nor am I "saying bye-bye" to the series. Actually, I played Samurai Warriors 2 XL all day yesterday, and this morning. During all of this fiasco on the forums. Trying to get Gracia to level 70. I'll be buying Samurai Warriors 3 on launch day, and buying all the DLC for it... and then buying Samurai Warriors 3: Empires (because you know it's coming). Edited by qewlkid9, Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:55 pm.
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| Kiheiji | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:04 pm Post #3540 |
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Can we move on from this? By the way, I agree DW5 is the best DW up to now. Can't wait to put my hands on SW3. Too bad I don't have Wii just yet. |
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| Rakolai | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:05 pm Post #3541 |
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Moving on... wonderpierrot uploaded some Murasame Castle mode gameplay. Apparently, any character can use the eagle but only in Murasame Castle mode. Video here. |
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| Joetri10 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:06 pm Post #3542 |
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Don't Even Pray For Me, No!
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I bet you the reviwers are just paid shed loads of money to make a good review just because they are asked to.. and as i said before.. Its all about the happy family, child freindly, vomit inducing rubbish ^^ .. i worry sometimes.
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| Zero38 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:08 pm Post #3543 |
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Oh.... I see Sorry for misunderstanding.. : ( I can see your point now .... & Yes... It's happening.. Koei Didn't cut story mode before... didn't cut characters & older games were complete IMO the best games koei ever made are SW1 + DW3 (SW2...DW5) But I can still see SW3 much better than DW6 at least we are getting 30 Unique characters with story modes : ) |
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| Amicable | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:12 pm Post #3544 |
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Hmmm, well.... I disagree! **** YEAH GODHAND BEST GAME EVER AWESOME COMBOS KICKIN' ENEMIES SKY HIGH AND PUNCHIN' 'EM TO OBLIVION PURE FUN AND NO CRAP OH YEAH
I never said that. Do you really think reviewers won't call each other out on their reviews?
lmao someone's on his high horse
I've actually PLAYED the game. No seriously. My little sister got it as a present and I was glad to play it with her. Nothing 7.5 about it if you ask me
Not to me, but I expect "professional" journalist to be actually professional. My quote was generally dislike developers putting in waggle gimmicks in Wii games. The reviewer said that a waggle gimmick was perfect for Samurai Warriors' gameplay, but you attack so much in the game that it's actually the opposite. A "professional" game reviewer should have analysed this if a 16 year old can do it too. But he didn't. Which leads me to believe he only wants waggle for the sake of waggle. What's up with you using my quote as an fanboy one anyway? It said in the article that they didn't like it that the game didn't have waggle. Read it again. My quote never had a sentiment of aggresive behavior in it anyway. No LETS RIP HIS BALLS off like you said. If you think the "bull****" thing was supposed to be anger than you're wrong. Swear words are a common part of my vocalbulary. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Anyway guys, aren't we FORGETTING something here? The game bros! Let's talk about the game again and leave this **** behind us! Oh yeah! So, it seems attacks are a bit slower now. I generally dislike this at attacking in Samurai Warriors 2 felt pretty smooth. I'll probaly get used to it after playing a battle or two ;). I also really hope some of the "other" charachters like Yoshihiro(**** yeah) and Ginchiyo(awesome) still have great story modes. |
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| qewlkid9 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:16 pm Post #3545 |
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I love it how you try to argue with me and then change the subject, calling the argument ****... Although I was completely done and you brought it back up. Just saying. If you wanted to let it go, you could've kept this entire part of your post, out:
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| Ixbran | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:43 pm Post #3546 |
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EPIC WIN! ive been wanting to see game play of Oichi as well as a murasame stage! X 3 and lo-and-behold, i get both in one. : D that was an epic video, the stage looked awsome. and intresting that Oichi can uses the ninja skill of calling theh birdy. oh wells, epic gameplay is epic, thans for shairing with us dude! |
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| Joetri10 | Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:59 pm Post #3547 |
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That vid really is amazing, looks great and oichi really looks so much better with the colour change the player did, it looks like i will be using that system after all :P... The mode looks great aswell, looks like it will be abit frustrating but its different. And Oichis moveset isent the best but its ok :). And Wonderparrot owns!.. Unlike another person i wont mention.
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| AdawgDaFAB | Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:21 pm Post #3548 |
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Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Although the past few pages have been fun to read everyone's reaction to that preview xD. I think overall that anyone who is a fan of the series will love the stuff SM3 brings to the table. I think all the new characters are awesome and really fun to play with, the Eigi system opens up so much combo possibilities, the Kaidens are all really awesome looking and fun to use, and even Murasame mode is fun if you like to challenge yourself (I CAN see many people hating it as well on the other hand, lol). Also about the video Rakolai posted. Great video that shows off Murasame pretty well (and people get to see one of the first few appearances of the "evil lightning bolt archers from hell" that love to swarm the last few stages lol). It was really smart to use the 10 sec Musou item at the beginning because to me that was the most frustrating mob of enemies in the whole stage. Edited by AdawgDaFAB, Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:41 pm.
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| Master Akio | Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:53 pm Post #3549 |
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I'm Back!
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The Argument between all of you is childish and has now got nothing to do with sw3, who is going to be the better person? I think that the two reviews posted above have nothing to do with each other and are neither related to sw3 either If you truly love sw3 you would not care if they gave it a 1, grow up and admit the fact that Koei games do not go down well outside of asia. And if you are going to quote me, at least have a vaild arguement to support yourself, thanks |
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| Ultimate Legend | Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:27 pm Post #3550 |
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The argument had already stopped, you're bringing it up again? |
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worst review ever?!!

i worry sometimes.
lmao someone's on his high horse





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