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Samurai Warriors 3 [V3]; J Release: December 3rd, 2009, on Wii
Topic Started: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:49 pm (272,207 Views)
Skode
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Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:54 am
So Motochika's become an Akechi-ish retainer.

What I said earliy about characters in SW2XL being cut or not having stories, I now add, having silly stories where all they do is serve a force they never did fight for, or have a historical story
Yeah... if they really wanted a SW2XL character to serve Mitsuhide why on earth did they cut Gracia and instead completely make up the Motochika plotline :(

I was rather looking forward to playing him again as he was awesome in SW2XL with a great plot... now they are just making it up again which is a shame when you have the likes of Magoichi, Kunoichi and Okuni for example who they could have used instead to make up stories till their hearts content but honestly i shouldnt be surprised at this but i am dissapointed.
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Chosokabe the giga pirate
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Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:09 pm
MysteriousStranger08
Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:54 am
So Motochika's become an Akechi-ish retainer.

What I said earliy about characters in SW2XL being cut or not having stories, I now add, having silly stories where all they do is serve a force they never did fight for, or have a historical story
Yeah... if they really wanted a SW2XL character to serve Mitsuhide why on earth did they cut Gracia and instead completely make up the Motochika plotline :(

I was rather looking forward to playing him again as he was awesome in SW2XL with a great plot... now they are just making it up again which is a shame when you have the likes of Magoichi, Kunoichi and Okuni for example who they could have used instead to make up stories till their hearts content but honestly i shouldnt be surprised at this but i am dissapointed.
totally agree with this i mean i was not that keen on gracia but that would have made more sense but we will see about his story even hough he was my fave so will have to go with my new fav even though i have not played as him "kiyomasa" and his scyth of death lol
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Excuse Me,Don't mention those char. like if they are pointless
I am sorry those 3 you mentioned have big fanbases & do you know That I prefer those 3 over the Oda
It's a matter of taste & It's a game which should not be based only on History
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So Sekigahara is now completly foggy? This reminds me of the SW2E Kawanakijma,Where the entire level was shrouded in fog which moved around and only gave you occasional glimpses of the map. A foggy Sekigahara with Tadakatsu coming out the mist - yikes...
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Skode
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Zero38
Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:14 pm
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Excuse Me,Don't mention those char. like if they are pointless
I am sorry those 3 you mentioned have big fanbases & do you know That I prefer those 3 over the Oda
It's a matter of taste & It's a game which should not be based only on History
The games are BASED on history but as its a game there will plenty of made up narrative elements... Kunoichi is made up, Magoichi is based on a Magoichi but the one you see in the games is made up and Okuni really doesnt have much influence in any of this regardless of at her being present of that era - as such THEY were ideal for being a little creative Motochika was not.

I find it baffling you jump so quick to defend them yet readily are happy for the likes of Motochika to get messed about with instead when he is clearly a fave or both Chosokabe the giga pirate and myself :rolleyes:
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I know It's baes on history
But it should not be only on history
Those char. are made for Fun : )
It's still called a game
Not a movie showing the history of Japan : )
please this right now go to the complaining thread & I said what I can say
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Chosokabe the giga pirate
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Skode
Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:19 pm
Zero38
Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:14 pm
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Excuse Me,Don't mention those char. like if they are pointless
I am sorry those 3 you mentioned have big fanbases & do you know That I prefer those 3 over the Oda
It's a matter of taste & It's a game which should not be based only on History
The games are BASED on history but as its a game there will plenty of made up narrative elements... Kunoichi is made up, Magoichi is based on a Magoichi but the one you see in the games is made up and Okuni really doesnt have much influence in any of this regardless of at her being present of that era - as such THEY were ideal for being a little creative Motochika was not.

I find it baffling you jump so quick to defend them yet readily are happy for the likes of Motochika to get messed about with instead when he is clearly a fave or both Chosokabe the giga pirate and myself :rolleyes:
i have no problem with any of those 3 i think skode was just using them as a example more than anything i mean tbh i like kuno since playing WO i was not that sure of her from sw1 . the reason why i am confused /bewildered/not amused is that he is in anegawa :blink: :blink: -he was unifying shikoku at the time i mean really ??? thats like putting nobunaga at osaka

edit :-will stop putting grumbles on hear and back on the compliants thread -sorry mods/admins
Edited by Chosokabe the giga pirate, Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:25 pm.
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Well I guess Free Mode can come in handy here.

If he can't have a story with the Toyotomi, we can at least play as him in the respective stages in Free Mode.
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I would like it if in free mode 2p can be on opposite sides...
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Someone have member on nicovideo (whatever it is)? :hehe:
Cause I really really wants to see SM3 Gameplay. :(
Please give the username and the password. :sad:
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@Zero38: I know you like them, but you need to learn that other's might not an will voice this without bashing them or 'complaining' about them. It's the right of having an oppinion of their own. ;)

@Fuurinkazen: I'd like this as well, but kind of doubt it to happen. It's kind of... problematic as well. In fact I was glad that for once a game having a 2 Player mode in a game like this actually can play TOGETHER. For battling each other there is always the VS mode. And I'd find it kind of unfair that if you choose opposing sides, and one defeats the other player, this one has to wait until you are done with the stage. That sucks ;P

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@Dark Sun: The videos are up at youtube now as well. A few of them are even linked to at the MAIN PAGE. So you have the choice of either a) browsing through the last 10 pages here in the thread or b) simply go to the Koei Warriors main page, scroll down and look at them or c) look for the tutorial on how to get an account on nicovids that was posted by a member in this thread as well and get your own.
Edited by wildcard, Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:50 pm.
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Chosokabe the giga pirate
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Mind you out of his stages the one i am looking foward to is motochika at honji i can just see it

Nobunaga :- what ! so the bat king has arrived - interesting -
Motochika :- it's time for the tides to be redirected-

feel free to add onto this lol
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Hideyoshi -It is time for monkey mania-!

Anyway - so no new Famitsu updates?
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Wed Dec 2, 2009 1:09 pm
Hideyoshi -It is time for monkey mania-!

Anyway - so no new Famitsu updates?
love that line lol but their were some just confirming motonari was in i think somewhere between page 27-31 of this thread

also

-magoichi- it's time to die nobunaga wait who's the pretty lady with him :blush: :blush:
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-After Magoichi says that - he faints and falls of of Honnoji temple.

I am happy this game is comning in US/UK from February onwards
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Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:45 pm
Someone have member on nicovideo (whatever it is)? :hehe:
Cause I really really wants to see SM3 Gameplay. :(
Please give the username and the password. :sad:
Just follow theses steps

Would like to see Kunoichi and Nene movesets to know if they are the same.
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Motochika's new story may not please everyone but at least it's not anything like his SW2XL story which makes me happy. He's story is not a cut and paste from previous installement which could have been the worst case scenario.
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Wed Dec 2, 2009 1:42 pm
Motochika's new story may not please everyone but at least it's not anything like his SW2XL story which makes me happy. He's story is not a cut and paste from previous installement which could have been the worst case scenario.
Yeah but they didn't even keep Shikoku :crazy:
Basically every character from SW2XL is toned down in this game:
-Motochika not having Shikoku (the battle cut out entirely)
-Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto free-mode only
-Kojiro and Gracia cut completely

I don't really like the idea of Motochika being Akechi's best friend. I mean even if we had partially kept his story from SW2XL it would still have been a good one:
1. A battle against the Mori
2. Komaki-Nagakute
3. Shikoku (historical)
4. Kyushu (historical)
5. Odawawa (historical)

I mean look at Nene's story: Only the filler-stage Pirate hunt is switched to Iga crossing (her being in the battle doens't even make any sense). Basically the same story as before. Why it is so different in the case of Motochika?
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Because he's the only 2XL character with a story, I suppose KOEI just wanted to go crazy with him. Can you blame them? Motochika's stuck on a island with a bunch of generics and see what it has done to his appearance :P ? If I looked like that and my only friends were faceless officers, I'd immediately head to main island as well and try to make new friends.

I don't know anything about Nene's SW3 story except that she has Iga Crossing this time and she hangs out more with Hanzo. If she's story is not anything like in SW2, then I don't mind if she has the same story stages.
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Is Motochika still at Sekigahara?
Edited by Furinkazen, Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:08 pm.
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Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:08 pm
Is Motochika still at Sekigahara?
Nope (at least not in his story). Historically he died one year before it.
Edited by Fūma, Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:10 pm.
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Seraphil mentioned before that he appears on Sekigahara fightning for the Western forces. It makes sense considering his new friendship with Mitsuhide who fights for the Eastern forces.
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Haven't read the last few pages yet, so if this has been said you'll have to forgive me:

Well, looks like I have to eat crow, Tetsuo. It appears the file size for this game is a whopping 7.92 GB. I'm... well... surprised if nothing else. Funny thing is, I think this is the best confirmation possible for no XL (on Wii at least) since there's well... no room for it on the disc and all.
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Muneshige and kaihime videos on youtube!
Muneshige: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibNoW4X6zro&feature=sub
Kai: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix4rFrKb-6s&feature=channel
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Wed Dec 2, 2009 2:07 pm
Because he's the only 2XL character with a story, I suppose KOEI just wanted to go crazy with him. Can you blame them? Motochika's stuck on a island with a bunch of generics and see what it has done to his appearance :P ? If I looked like that and my only friends were faceless officers, I'd immediately head to main island as well and try to make new friends.
but with them bringing in motonari the shikoku stage at least motochika would have had 2 faces on his side
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