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Several Manga Sites Going Down
Topic Started: Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:58 pm (2,225 Views)
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They're going after them now.
OneManga is deleting all of their manga from their site while MangaToshokan managed to keep a few (Though most of them have been deleted).

Many other sites are being deleted as well.
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Sun Ce
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Cebastian: Allons-y!

After the deal about Raws and Scanlations Shueisha had with Mangastream and helpers (which I believe is still in effect so far) a few companies caught on to free manga readers making money through donations that weren't going towards domain. Making a profit off of streaming it didn't sit well with almost all the manga companies, both English and Japanese publishers, so most of the well known are being shut down or cleaned out. :kurokan:
Aside from it being mentioned on Onemanga with no backing I haven't heard anything else about stopping scanlations altogether, so getting them through actual scanlators should still be available for now. The only real bump will be in having to actually save the latest chapters as apposed to reading them from a site directly and it might cause a bit more of a struggle in finding anything licensed in America.
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This is dissapointing, but I can't say it will bother me much. I don't follow many manga on the interent, I perfer to buy the officially translated volumes rather than this, but they're so far behind and will take forever to catch up :kurokan: Ehh, hopefully this just causes more demand for translated manga in NA so the companies can get their acts together, and stop witholding volumes that have been completed for months.

The popular maga will still be translated quickly and be out only a few days later than usual I think, its not going to stop, it's just going to be a bigger hassle, oh well, lucky for me I only follow two manga on the internet.
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What? OneManga?! :( No! That's where I go to read my favorite series! I can understand why, though. The whole issue with licenses, copyrights, etc. makes it difficult to post stuff online. I just read OneManga's "goodbye" message. It's kind of sad to see this happen... but again, I understand why. :(
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I hope MangaFox doesn't close..
That's usually my favourite site to use :/

It's nice for when I actually rarely decide to read manga xD
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No more Manga on Internet = T_T

Seriously, that does bother me. Because here in Turkey it's really, really rare to find official Manga no matter how much it's popular, and whether it's translated or not....
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There are still a lot of sites out there.

Mangastream is still good for now.
I don't think MangaFox has been hit yet.
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Sun Ce
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Mangastream should be fine so far since they only cover Shueisha releases and don't profit like the others. Mangafox so far has been cutting down more on anything with licensed English releases but other then that they should be going. It wouldn't entirely surprise me if it did hit them eventually though.

Hanzo-san
Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:20 pm
No more Manga on Internet = T_T

Seriously, that does bother me. Because here in Turkey it's really, really rare to find official Manga no matter how much it's popular, and whether it's translated or not....
This is exactly why at least Shueisha had said they would still allow scanlations just not raws, since the US and Japan aren't the only fans out there that read it and allowing those who can't get it to get a taste could allow things to hopefully spread more in the future. While that is still just Shueisha's view that I know of they are the biggest worry in terms of what they do have so at least the mains should be alright for now.
It won't disappear for good. If anything it will just be a little harder for a while by going back to counting on LJ communities and IRC and aside from the mains, releases might slow down for a little while. It's not the first time a wave like this has hit, and it won't be the last. I myself have been reading stuff online before there were convenient sites like mangafox and onemanga so it's nothing really to scary for me to think about. I never even used OM much out of the online readers anyway. Even so, if they disappear now I highly doubt they will stay gone. I wouldn't be surprised if it just took a while for the fuss to die down before new online readers start reappearing.
Edited by Sun Ce, Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:21 am.
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Oh man, this isn't gonna end well. Piracy is bad, but with the Internet, piracy is unstoppable. Like the Hydra, "cut off one limb and 2 more will take its place."

This whole thing just reeks of stupid. The "coalition" consists mostly of Japanese publishers, which confuses the hell outta me. Why do they care about what a foreign American like me does with their material. Do they really profit THAT much from international sales, that sites like OneManga can be deemed as threats? They're getting rid of ALL manga, both the popular licensed ones and the unlicensed ones that will probably never see face outside of Japan, which is retardedly drastic. And how are scanlations "bad" when to the vast amount of anime subs and dubs that can be easily accessed on Youtube is deemed "okay"? That's freakin' hypocrisy right there. But the worst part is that they are declaring war on scanlations while targetting the aggregators, which leads me to believe that they have no clue what they're doing and are just firing at the easiest target. Utter madness.

However, I do think it's wrong that said aggregators have been making money off of this. I have seen OneManga and the huge amount of Google ads on the site, and I know that someone on that site is sitting on a pile of cash. I know this has been said all over the web, so forgive me for repeating, but I do agree that these aggregators should be more like Crunchyroll: Allowing free access to updated manga, while giving the publishers a cut of the profits from advertising and donations. Then we wouldn't have this problem, no?

To end my rant, I would like to say a farewell to OneManga, which has been my main manga source recently. I will go to other sites, but it's still sad to see one of the first of many casualties to come. In the words of Monica Rambeau, "There is no internet meme to express my :sad:"
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I'm a pirate myself :3, so closing OM is bad news to me. >.<

It doesn't do those smaller titles their justice because they're not well known and may have been missed/dismissed by those English publishers. So people outside Japan/who don't know Japanese will not be able to enjoy them.

Ah~ and I procrastinated on GTO manga... :(
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This is very dissapointing to me. The only book store that had manga went out of bussiness were I lived and I was using sites like one manga to keep up with them. Dang that kills one hobby that passes the time.
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If Manga's are going to get cut, that means a lot less possibility of "Mass Spoiling" for the Anime followers who dislike reading it. After all, you can't really get the feeling you're watching something awesome happening. The movement and the sound in the Anime does.

I'm a pro for this to happen.
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How would that affect Anime people? I mean, if they dislike reading manga, then they shouldn't be reading them hence no spoiling unless they want to. Lol.

I got sick of Naruto anime no thanks to their garbage fillers (80 eps I think!) so I'm following the manga now. It's all good. Hope the massacre stops just at OM... :mellow:
Edited by Saint, Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:22 pm.
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:21 pm
I got sick of Naruto anime no thanks to their garbage fillers (80 eps I think!) so I'm following the manga now. It's all good. Hope the massacre stops just at OM... :mellow:
Naruto Shippuden EP170 is gonna be a filler story which took place before the time-skip, pausing the currently ongoing Pein invasion during its most awesome moments, dang.. Dx
Though, Naruto is the only series I enjoy watching rather than reading, due to its Manga's crappy artwork.. :mellow:
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:52 pm
Naruto Shippuden EP170 is gonna be a filler story which took place before the time-skip, pausing the currently ongoing Pein invasion during its most awesome moments, dang.. Dx
Though, Naruto is the only series I enjoy watching rather than reading, due to its Manga's crappy artwork.. :mellow:
That sounds awful. >.< It's like that time when they started that epic filler season after Naruto vs Sasuke showdown before Shippuuden. :E

I watched that series in pain during the fillers. But being obsessive-compulsive, I forced myself to finish it anyway and started Shippuuden on manga at the same time to keep myself sane. Lol.

Yeah, the artwork can be very confusing during battles though. >.< But I'll rather read the manga anyway cos I'm too far ahead now. :lol:

I used to follow Bleach, but got lost after episodes 140s cos of busy life and slow episodes. Wanted to follow manga but I dunno. Too far behind in this case... >.<

Heck, I'll just buy the whole set when they're finished! Though that may cost me a fortune. :S They just don't friggin' end!
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:21 pm
I got sick of Naruto anime no thanks to their garbage fillers (80 eps I think!) so I'm following the manga now. It's all good. Hope the massacre stops just at OM... :mellow:
The "massacre" probably won't, if the publishers are taking this as seriously as they look like they are. But hey, like I said before, this is the Internet. The problem with sites like OneManga were that they made money, which isn't fair, and they had too many hits on Google, which is as safe as a terrorist updating his Facebook status. If a non-profit site manages to keep itself off of Google's search list, then it should be able to sneak under the radar.
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I don't really understand this..
Us non-japanese have no other way of getting the manga without waiting a LONG LONG time or just not being able to at all.
If they choose to do this, they should at least release the translated versions straight after the japanese release tbh..

Besides, the free manga online only promotes their franchises, therefore making it more popular.
If a fan tells another eprson about this manag. They may also start reading it.
Then some fans may even buy official merchandise from the manga companies.

Just free advertising IMO.. o.o
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:21 pm
How would that affect Anime people? I mean, if they dislike reading manga, then they shouldn't be reading them hence no spoiling unless they want to. Lol.
The spoilers come from people who read the manga. Those people just type it on forums and chats without spoiler tags, so people get to accidentally read the spoilers. Youtube is even worse, when you're just reading some comments about a clip, you see those people saying "This and that happens"

If the Manga's are cut shorter, there will be less likely people to spoil.
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:35 pm
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:21 pm
How would that affect Anime people? I mean, if they dislike reading manga, then they shouldn't be reading them hence no spoiling unless they want to. Lol.
The spoilers come from people who read the manga. Those people just type it on forums and chats without spoiler tags, so people get to accidentally read the spoilers. Youtube is even worse, when you're just reading some comments about a clip, you see those people saying "This and that happens"

If the Manga's are cut shorter, there will be less likely people to spoil.
Well if some Manga readers does spoil events, it's not the fault of other Manga readers world-wide who can never find official Manga in their countries in any chance.

Besides, reading Manga can be alot more enjoyable than watching Anime for most people.. Including myself.
Some Manga series are way long and may cost a fortune to buy officially.

While Manga series moves on, Anime gets filler arcs that are totally out of the main plot of the series and watching them
would be rather a waste of time. In such case, I rather continue following the Manga than wasting my time on unnecessary fillers..
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:14 pm
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:52 pm
Naruto Shippuden EP170 is gonna be a filler story which took place before the time-skip, pausing the currently ongoing Pein invasion during its most awesome moments, dang.. Dx
Though, Naruto is the only series I enjoy watching rather than reading, due to its Manga's crappy artwork.. :mellow:
That sounds awful. >.< It's like that time when they started that epic filler season after Naruto vs Sasuke showdown before Shippuuden. :E
The "Filler" is only a special that's promoting the 4th Naruto Shippuuden Movie and it's a 1 hour special. People are acting like this is 2-3 month filler arc.

And with the Anime catching up rapidly (Pain arc is already about to end), they'll have to put a filler arc in somewhere anyway.

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The spoilers come from people who read the manga. Those people just type it on forums and chats without spoiler tags, so people get to accidentally read the spoilers. Youtube is even worse, when you're just reading some comments about a clip, you see those people saying "This and that happens"

If the Manga's are cut shorter, there will be less likely people to spoil.


That's no reason to support it though. If you're watching a series and aren't reading the manga you shouldn't even be reading the comments on videos or forums.

And the whole "you can't get the awesome feeling" is a lie.
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:14 pm
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Sat Jul 24, 2010 3:52 pm
Naruto Shippuden EP170 is gonna be a filler story which took place before the time-skip, pausing the currently ongoing Pein invasion during its most awesome moments, dang.. Dx
Though, Naruto is the only series I enjoy watching rather than reading, due to its Manga's crappy artwork.. :mellow:
That sounds awful. >.< It's like that time when they started that epic filler season after Naruto vs Sasuke showdown before Shippuuden. :E
The "Filler" is only a special that's promoting the 4th Naruto Shippuuden Movie and it's a 1 hour special. People are acting like this is 2-3 month filler arc.

And with the Anime catching up rapidly (Pain arc is already about to end), they'll have to put a filler arc in somewhere anyway.

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The spoilers come from people who read the manga. Those people just type it on forums and chats without spoiler tags, so people get to accidentally read the spoilers. Youtube is even worse, when you're just reading some comments about a clip, you see those people saying "This and that happens"

If the Manga's are cut shorter, there will be less likely people to spoil.


That's no reason to support it though. If you're watching a series and aren't reading the manga you shouldn't even be reading the comments on videos or forums.

And the whole "you can't get the awesome feeling" is a lie.
Which one are you referring to, dude? Naruto (not Shippuudden) 141-220 were fillers IIRC the ep numbers. That certainly ain't just 2-3 months. It was painfully long... :kurokan:

Dunno about Shippuudden fillers though, since that 80 ep fillers forced me to switch to manga. >.<
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That's no reason to support it though. If you're watching a series and aren't reading the manga you shouldn't even be reading the comments on videos or forums.

And the whole "you can't get the awesome feeling" is a lie.
So I shouldn't be allowed to read what people think about an AMV, for example? Are the Anime Watchers then just condemned not to read anything? The Manga fans who just throw all the spoilers everywhere are the guilty people.

And drawn images can show someone crying, but without sound, movement and the dramatic scenery you get from the Anime, it's definately not more effective emotional wise. If you say that an image with text is more, or even equal, emotional than moving illustrations, sound and dramatic music, then you are obviously wrong inside your head.

I can agree with the filler issue, but it lengthens the series and some of the fillers aren't even that bad.
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Which one are you referring to, dude?
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Naruto Shippuden EP170 is gonna be a filler story which took place before the time-skip, pausing the currently ongoing Pein invasion during its most awesome moments, dang.. Dx

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So I shouldn't be allowed to read what people think about an AMV, for example? Are the Anime Watchers then just condemned not to read anything? The Manga fans who just throw all the spoilers everywhere are the guilty people.

Agreed but everyone shouldn't have to stuff because of them.

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And drawn images can show someone crying, but without sound, movement and the dramatic scenery you get from the Anime, it's definately not more effective emotional wise. If you say that an image with text is more, or even equal, emotional than moving illustrations, sound and dramatic music, then you are obviously wrong inside your head.

Never said that they weren't better. I said the "You can't get the awesome feeling" is a lie. The anime version will most likely be better (As long as they used the write music for it, ect.) but it doesn't mean the manga version can't be good too.
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I can agree with the filler issue, but it lengthens the series and some of the fillers aren't even that bad.

I don't even have a problem with fillers, though most people do. I watched all of the Part One fillers and all of Shippuuden's. Many of them aren't that bad.
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I'm really sad that OneManga is shutting down. It's where I go for for general manga needs. I'll just have to go to another site.
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Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:32 pm
I'm really sad that OneManga is shutting down. It's where I go for for general manga needs. I'll just have to go to another site.
I recommend MangaFox
As far as I know, it won't be shut (as of yet anyway..)

Oh and I usually enjoy most Naruto fillers 8D
I enjoy watching the ones that involve characters that are usually pretty inactive.
Not to mention how many episodes Hinata was in :')
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