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SSMO: Souten Ranbu (PS3); Release on: Thursday, November 11th, 2010
Topic Started: Wed Sep 1, 2010 5:26 pm (7,238 Views)
metalsnake27
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Ok so...

1. Mounts?
2. Lu bu's Weapon??

Already this is the sign of either 1. they are closing soon or 2. koei has lost their minds....

But im still confused on why they are "returning" to battle of chi bi, i dont quite understand whats going on there....
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Jsun
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In case you guys haven't already seen the new trailer video

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Wei-Yan
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i hope this comes out for the ps3 in england also
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lz1tir2
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Bad i dont have PS3 :( I want Lu Bu Weapon in DWO English,I only want it because of Lu Bu weapon Its the Best
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Yay :P :hehe: Im so happy .. Finally my dream come true ..
I can't Wait for the USA version ..}
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I'm just confused by the retrogression of development in the movesets and the lack of updated Musou generals. I don't see much of a Renbu set, let alone any at all, no true introductory of a newer array of outfits/weapons, and everything is so last expansion with the style of the stages and the construction of the canons.

As tempting as it is, I really would not throw money down on this just for the new concept of DW, that I personally feel won't feel like the series at all for anyone. Right now, it just looks like a bit of a scheme to milk the fans and hype them up.

Besides, World of Warcraft has taken the cake for the MMORPG genre; though this will release for PS3, as far as the U.S goes, a small percentage will be interested, unfortunately, considering the Warriors series is wonderful, but it's not going to have the hype that the majority of games for PS3/360/PC ever will when you look at the fanbase in a more general spread.
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MONEYOO

this is prob last epz of DWO Rambo only thing they can add from now on are new maps,armors,R7,R8 weps, mby mounts (btw look at tiger mount in trailer it lags out of screen),unless they decide to make new weps, also few cash items/furniture will be added but I wont tell u what :)(they are alrdy in game files)
next dwo should be called Shing Sangoku musou online breakdance of chaotic snake prince
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Sonicthesneak
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I am confused. Are people angry about the newest update to the JPN version of DWO? It sounds all good to me. And I doubt that all of that info will be only for the PS3 owners. PC users may have to pay for an upgrade or something, but I don't think they'd want to gimp the PC users (who I would believe would be the majority of the players.)

As for the game coming close to an end, that would suck since the rest of the world is just now getting it, but it's worth noting that Koei overhauled the Dynasty Warrior series right after 5. They might be looking forward to making DWO 2 using the DW6 system (for better or for worse, not everyone likes the DW6 style.)

Also, they might want to update the graphics and stuff. I can't say I know for sure. But it's not a far-fetched idea.

Having not played DWO at all and having waited for it for at least 3 years, this is hopeful news to me. I was wondering where all the horse mounts were when I watched the videos of the game. I can imagine the balance being thrown off a little and then hopefully fixed, but I only see this as good things ahead (even if ahead means a new version of DWO which is virtually a fresh start.)

Maybe it's different if you've actually played the game. I could be wrong.
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legendaryhero90
Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:31 pm
that LU BU weapon is gonna be MINE!!!!

HAR HAR HAR!!!
*smacks*

NOT IF I GET TO IT FIRST!!!

*runs fast*
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Pan2018
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Sonicthesneak
Fri Sep 3, 2010 8:01 pm
I am confused. Are people angry about the newest update to the JPN version of DWO? It sounds all good to me.
Well, from normal DW players' perspective... This new PS3 DWO (I nicknamed it as "PS3 DWO v2") is GREAT! This is because this one added Lu Bu's weapon and mounts. Plus, with meeting friends from other forces is now possible, that's like EVERYTHING IN PLAYERS' WISH LIST COME TRUE!

However, for those who had played for ages... especially in my case, where I had played OVER 3 YEARS, will know that these ADDITIONS will BREAK THE BALANCE OFF THE CHART! (I had fears like 2 years ago for these additions. I thought Koei is going to add either Lu Bu or mounts first and add another one after, but Koei ADDED BOTH AT ONCE LIKE THIS... IS INSANE!)

Imagine this...

  • When PvP battles determine only whether players have Lu Bu's weapon or not...
  • When base battles determine only whether players have mounts or not...
  • Imagine lagfest in "12 v 12 Battle Royal" with mounts run around like horse's track field.
  • Imagine you are a beginner who has NOTHING, ended up get bet by someone who have Lu Bu's weapon AND/OR mounts...
  • Imagine you can't PK anyone who are on mounts and run freely mainly due to latency (the higher speed you move, more likely that the latency's (teleport) effect will occurs...)
  • Mounts also REMOVED the purpose of having "Speed" on weapons. Since everyone will get mounts and can use strongest power's weapons (which is usually having LOW "Speed" movement) and will PK anyone as they please...

All those functions above is OK if you play console version, but when it comes to MMOs, these functions make players who are casual or beginners UNBEARABLE TO PLAY IN BATTLES (and have to force to do farming battles and/or quests...) due to reasons above!

I do think Lu Bu's weapon will probably lower the attack, especially the C3 down to like a damage from JC, to keep the balance, but still abusable... But, the mounts... the mount's speed will determine whether it BREAKS the balance completely or not! (The highest speed from weapons is 140 and MAX speed is 200.)

Until then... I can't really fully judge how much effect will impact for this PS3 DWO, but if the Lu Bu's C3 is damage like normal and mounts set speed ABOVE the 140 Weapon's speed... THEN, THE DWO WILL TOTALLY BECOME "Lu Bu Online" or something...

I am just hope that mounts will be rare and reduce the Lu Bu's weapon damage (especially the C3).

Sincerely, Pan2007 ~ Pan2010 (September 2nd, 2010)
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MONEYOO

wouldnt agree pan Lu Bu will be popular but no weps is super every wep can be counterd,and about mounts it will unbalance base battles but mounts are pain in the ass also KO on mounts is nightmare and u knocked down of so easy also doubt mounts will have 200 speed I expect more like 180 horses 160 elephant now lets look what player with Lu Xun or whip has 140 speed +8 speed boots +10 speed on armor 158 speed also whip has 1 of highest power(slot 6 if I remember corect) in game.
*Also new patch mby helps game by adding few more weps that can be used in base battles(with help of mounts)
*About Lu Bu as long as it dont have x3 atack ability Im cool with it pikes are wep that should get nerf so much SA moves ,imba musou, imba ability compare that to zhou tai
*Lets not be so critic about new changes
*And most important thing WE ARE NOT SURE THAT THIS WILL BE ON NA/EU server didnt read anything about this on aeria
{DWO sufers from lack of players so all u Wei Yans who buy PS3 DWO v2 should know that it will be free on PC we play on same server as PS3 so how the Titanic are they gona make it unusable to us and if they make new server for them how many ppl will play it x>2000 jpn server sufers from lack of battles with 7000 players}
Edited by MONEYOO, Sat Sep 4, 2010 12:43 am.
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Pan2018
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Well, while it is true that Lu Bu's weapon can be countered, but it is still considered as the most abusable weapon compare to others, mainly due to C3.

I am also have to correct something here...

KO on mounts is nightmare
What? Try to use Ma Chao's Spear weapon on mount and use C1 on horse. The shockwave's effect can kill tons of soldier just like on land. (Unless the same C1/C6 differences apply to horse's charge attacks)

Also, when you have horses in base condition, you may probably don't bother KO so much when you can go from one base to another for much faster victory (and probably more fun to race on which team will take bases faster (this depends on player's preference)).

180 Horses 160 Elephant
160 Speed for Elephant? That's impossible for two reasons...
*In DW console version, elephant run SLOWER than most weapons... Probably only Meng Huo and Xu Zhu run slower than elephant...
*Don't forget that elephant CAN stump, destroy towers (maybe even the barriers), and has HIGHER MOUNT than horse. Also, DWO does NOT have bows to shoot like in DW4 or DW5, so it will be more difficult to knock player from elephant than horse.

So, in my sense... elephant probably has around 105~110 speeds. However, horse will probably will be depending on type of horse, and possibly have to gain Level Up like how it works in DW6.

whip has 1 of highest power(slot 6 if I remember corect)
You probably memorized the slot order for whip wrong...
Slot 2 Defense, Slot 3 Attack, Slot 6 Destruction!

The only 4 weapons that has Slot 6 as Attack Power are:
Pang Tong (120 SPD), Zhang Jiao (125 SPD), Zuo Ci (115 SPD), and Zhou Yu's weapons (130 SPD).
All weapons with 140 SPD (Zhang He, Lu Xun, and Whip) have Slot 3 as Attack Power.

I guess I should not assume too much, but this is Koei we are talking about... I think I do know the purpose of this "PS3 DWO v2" is to LURE players into DWO AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE by adding these "player's wish list" features (as they tried many ways in past 3 years and they can't lure players as much, I guess...)

Sincerely, Pan2007 ~ Pan2010 (September 2nd, 2010)
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Wed Sep 1, 2010 6:44 pm
maaan i really hope there is a ps3 release for an english version from aeria games, or unless they release this for the PC version
If they do so, they should also release Chinese =D
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MONEYOO

*You probably memorized the slot order for whip wrong...
nop I didnt by power I mean destruction(wood choping ability). cuz having super high atack dosnt make sense anymore since atack over 200 is geting halfed. I also prefer fast bufing weps not for Base battles like Hu Huang since I rush for bases at start
*Ok Ma chao is super strong horse rider but his wep is so nerfd (I think mounts will mby help base battles to finish like they suposed2 not being KO to the end battles(with few trys of overtaking) I think KOEIs idea was never to make base battles finish as KO but they had too cuz result would be too much draw battles also there are ppl who defend base to counter that rusher players)also I think mounts will be ok they will bring more tactic into base battles cuz now u can reach far out bases quick (they should make mounts killable would make game more fun care where u park ur horse :D )
*Lu Bu will get super nerfd probably since KOEI dont try to balance game by making other weps useful all that they do is make strong weps useless so nobody use them except few fanatics I would also like to say wtf is with that nerfing they nerf Guan Yu C6!!! o cmon u dont nerf it from start of the game now u sudenly after 3 years do that ?not just nerf it make it useless (musou wiki now say X isnt good at all) also about Lu Bu spaming C3 lol PK is all about spaming 1 move (taishi ci , Hu Huang, Sima Yi ...the purpose of these weps is to spam 1 move)
*about Koei luring ppl to the game that aint suprise games purpose is to lure players but what I think is low is that they keep quiet about PC version making ppl uninformed
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lz1tir2
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Pan is the Red Hare will be in this game?
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This is making me very sadface. I understand that Dynasty Warriors started on the PS and moved it's way forward, but still.

Xbox 360 was also another part of moving forward, hence DW 5 empires, DW6, DW6 empires, and not to mention strikeforce.

KT wants the make fans happy then they need to expand further, but just not to the Wii. (Wii is a horrible game system in my opinion, which I am entitled to.)

*runs and cries in a corner* DW:O needs to become part of Xbox 360 and the PS3 needs to stop halt it's expansion! :sad:
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Okay. I understand how Pan feels now... it's mostly worrying about balance. That's reasonable. I didn't know that there were no arrows in DWO. Unless mounts have life and reducing the life knocks the enemies off of the mount, then elephants will be overpowered.

Horse and Tiger mounts should be fine to knock off. Are there speed ups? If so, perhaps mounts can be caught on foot by collecting power ups? (Really wish I had play exp, rather then guessing off of DW5 and DW6 experience)

Lu Bu's weapon will probably be made weaker or tweaked to be workable. I mean, Zhang Fei (sp) had a pretty OP weapon too, but I don't hear much about it now.

And is there any kind of item mall on the JPN servers? Or is everything over there free and find-able in game (except those who buy the PS3 version)?

EDIT: Wii is not a horrible system. But its not perfect. Glad to see that SW3 went to the Wii, even though doing so hurt Koei in the long run. Hoping that it gets re-released for the other systems later. Like SW3: Empires should be. =)
Edited by Sonicthesneak, Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:22 pm.
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Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:20 pm
Okay. I understand how Pan feels now... it's mostly worrying about balance. That's reasonable. I didn't know that there were no arrows in DWO. Unless mounts have life and reducing the life knocks the enemies off of the mount, then elephants will be overpowered.

Horse and Tiger mounts should be fine to knock off. Are there speed ups? If so, perhaps mounts can be caught on foot by collecting power ups? (Really wish I had play exp, rather then guessing off of DW5 and DW6 experience)

Lu Bu's weapon will probably be made weaker or tweaked to be workable. I mean, Zhang Fei (sp) had a pretty OP weapon too, but I don't hear much about it now.

And is there any kind of item mall on the JPN servers? Or is everything over there free and find-able in game (except those who buy the PS3 version)?

EDIT: Wii is not a horrible system. But its not perfect. Glad to see that SW3 went to the Wii, even though doing so hurt Koei in the long run. Hoping that it gets re-released for the other systems later. Like SW3: Empires should be. =)
So is the information that is released the only new content that will be in the game? Or will more come?
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I want to play this game, but I am getting conflicting reports on whether this blocks IPs or not, and any one help me out?
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bought the game, registered but do not know how to get the freebie weapons + armor. /sigh
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Pan2018
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I assumed you run from PS3...

You have to put serial numbers by go through the menu this way...
While you are in town, press: Charge (to call menu) > 3rd > 3rd.
Then put serial numbers in (the WHOLE THING, including dashes)

You will get items after you put serial numbers in.

Sincerely, Pan2007 ~ Pan2010 (November 17th, 2010)
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