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A new theory of a moveset
Topic Started: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:12 am (1,317 Views)
Imnon00b5
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What if Koei could implicate the Drunken fighting technique? Its pretty famous and when made by movies, shows, etc etc really well done. I think it could add a LOT of diversity to see a character fighting like this.

They could do it to a pirate like Cheng Pu, han Dang, Jiang Qin, or even Gan Ning. Or maybe Zhang Fei.

Maybe they could make one of their new characters use the technique.

Thoughts?
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Qilin
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Depends... Is the Technique real?
And Zhang Fei DW6 has a hint of a drunken fighting-style :P
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Imnon00b5
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Really i dont know if its actualy real if people actually use drunkness as an advantage but it really has worked well.
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Imnon00b5
Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:26 am
Really i dont know if its actualy real if people actually use drunkness as an advantage but it really has worked well.
It's a comon misconception (thanks to various movies and games) that you're supposed to be drunk whilst using Drunken Fist. In reality, it's the opposite - you're supposed to emulate the unpredictable-ness of a drunken man. Actually being drunk whilst trying to fight would probably be very dangerous, moreso on yourself than everyone around you in most cases (or so I hear...I've never drunk alcohol myself...). I've read that traditionally, it was used to trick attackers into thinking you were a harmless drunkard :)
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I think the fighting style is real, but i cannot imagine Zhang Fei or Gan Ning fighting like that, if they add a new character it would be funny. x)
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Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:20 pm
I think the fighting style is real, but i cannot imagine Zhang Fei or Gan Ning fighting like that, if they add a new character it would be funny. x)
Lol excactly it would eb funny, creative, and if done right a good fighter.

True doing that to an existing character might just change drastically, but Zhang Fei has faught drunk, so Koei could just imply that he could be good in drunken fist
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Zillion
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It'd be kinda wierd having Zhang Fei use both his Pike/Spear AND Drunken Fist imo. I think it'd be kinda cool if some of Zhang Fei's generic soldiers could use Drunken Fist =)
Generally speaking, making the general's/commander's troops more individual (perhaps in terms of appearance, but moreso in terms of gameplay) would be very nice, and could add a small layer of strategy to the game if done right.
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Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:52 am
Imnon00b5
Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:26 am
Really i dont know if its actualy real if people actually use drunkness as an advantage but it really has worked well.
It's a comon misconception (thanks to various movies and games) that you're supposed to be drunk whilst using Drunken Fist. In reality, it's the opposite - you're supposed to emulate the unpredictable-ness of a drunken man. Actually being drunk whilst trying to fight would probably be very dangerous, moreso on yourself than everyone around you in most cases (or so I hear...I've never drunk alcohol myself...). I've read that traditionally, it was used to trick attackers into thinking you were a harmless drunkard :)
This makes me not want to add Drunken Fist I am afraid.

I'm taking your words for it, but if Drunken Fist was meant to catch opponents off-guard every single time, what use would that make when:

1: Appear to be drunk

2: 1 Man comes up trying to slice you

3: You swing a weapon and takes 10+ people with it.

That would make the purpose of drunken fist useless.

If you want someone to be drunk and fight, nah I wouldn't want that either. It would be funny, but that's not really what Dynasty Warriors is trying to be. They're trying to be seriously funny, Zhang He is so serious about his... Thing, it's funny yet disgusting. But he's SERIOUS about it! Being a serious drunk is not an achievement and I don't see how anyone could become an officer like that. Even Zhang Fei stayed sober during battle.
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Gabel
Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:16 pm
Adnan
Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:52 am
Imnon00b5
Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:26 am
Really i dont know if its actualy real if people actually use drunkness as an advantage but it really has worked well.
It's a comon misconception (thanks to various movies and games) that you're supposed to be drunk whilst using Drunken Fist. In reality, it's the opposite - you're supposed to emulate the unpredictable-ness of a drunken man. Actually being drunk whilst trying to fight would probably be very dangerous, moreso on yourself than everyone around you in most cases (or so I hear...I've never drunk alcohol myself...). I've read that traditionally, it was used to trick attackers into thinking you were a harmless drunkard :)
This makes me not want to add Drunken Fist I am afraid.

I'm taking your words for it, but if Drunken Fist was meant to catch opponents off-guard every single time, what use would that make when:

1: Appear to be drunk

2: 1 Man comes up trying to slice you

3: You swing a weapon and takes 10+ people with it.

That would make the purpose of drunken fist useless.

If you want someone to be drunk and fight, nah I wouldn't want that either. It would be funny, but that's not really what Dynasty Warriors is trying to be. They're trying to be seriously funny, Zhang He is so serious about his... Thing, it's funny yet disgusting. But he's SERIOUS about it! Being a serious drunk is not an achievement and I don't see how anyone could become an officer like that. Even Zhang Fei stayed sober during battle.
Admittedly, I've never really understood the principles and philosophy of Drunken Fist myself, but, after reading my post, and then your post, I think I've worded that rather badly :facepalm: In fact, I can't even remember were I got the point about 'appearing as a harmless drunkard' from :/ So don't quote me on that. Long story short, it's supposed to be very unpredictable.

And I completely agree with you about how having Zhang Fei do Drunken Fist or being drunk on the battlefield would be a bad idea. I still think having generic soldiers using different martial arts (obviously more focused on weapon-based ones) would be cool though. But people need to get the idea of 'Drunken Fist = Being drunk' out of their heads. It's not true.
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It dosent matter if its logical or not logic really isnt Koei's biggest thing. the fact that that technique is portrayed very flashy and powerful is somethign Koei could build upon. It dosent matter if the "real" drunken fist dosent require you to be drunk
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would fit Zhang Fei but I want him to keep his massive spear x'3

I'm sure there was at least one general known for drinking habits somewhere. just add him in! ;D
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As soon as Chunyu Qiong becomes a playable character, he should debut the Drunken Fist.
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Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:51 pm
As soon as Chunyu Qiong becomes a playable character, he should debut the Drunken Fist.
:woot: Nice knowledge lol

I still think one of the pirates from Wu should be it. You know the stereotype and all
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No. I think it'll be boring
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You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNJ8ywHga1Y
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Forbidden Kingdom, one of the MOST AWESOME martial arts movies of this century! I don't play much Dynasty Warriors (purely because I can barely find some of 'em in my local shops) but I think Drunken Fist would be an epic choice cause it is an ancient Chinese martial art and it would be a nice change from some martial arts I've seen in games.
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First of all

@Pademonuim explain or you just seem as ignorant as person in avatar :P

Also as I said I dont care for the logical backround stuff. This is DW, if we were to make logic for this one moveset then the killing 20 people in swipe thing also should be covered. Then the technique of Zhuge Liang of shooting lasers.

I find the drunken fist (With the drunkeness) cool because its fresh and unique to the DW franchise and even games
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Well, hell, why not? :hehe:

The one thing I liked about DW6 was that it actually seemed to be going in the direction of utilizing stylish wuxia techniques. Even if we're going back to the "classic" style, I'm hoping that they'll still do more in this area.

So, by all means, Koei and Omega Force! Let's have some more Chinese martial arts and Wuxia antics represented in this series!
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HokutoNoBen
Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:20 am
Well, hell, why not? :hehe: The one thing I liked about DW6 was that it actually seemed to be going in the direction of utilizing stylish wuxia techniques. Even if we're going back to the "classic" style, I'm hoping that they'll still do more in this area. So, by all means, Koei and Omega Force! Let's have some more Chinese martial arts and Wuxia antics represented in this series!
The flash and uniquness that dw6 is gone so I doubt that we will get the little idea now....
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I wouldn't be so sure. Being able to switch between weapon-sets on the fly has some nice potential to be flashy and stylish, and there's still quite a bit we don't know about SSM6 as it is. So I'm just hanging back...

I would appreciate the return of Zuo Ci, though. The way he was able to bust out Buddha's Palms in the Orochi games always made me smile, and I'd appreciate getting that much and more.
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