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Sengoku Musou 3 Z; Release date confirmed, scans inside
Topic Started: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:17 pm (189,786 Views)
whisperwind
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:13 am
whisperwind
Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:04 am
Ok i'm going to level with everyone, i thought DW6Empires was the best title in any warriors series. So I was a little put out by how inferior SW3 handled and looked, and felt. But now it seems that Koei is gonna give it a MAJOR overhaul, and i'm pretty sure i want some of that pie! But on the other hand well, i already own the game soi'm basically seeing equal pros and cons on either side.
I don't know about major overhaul-- you can see from the way Warriors Orochi was converted to HD that the difference isn't actually all that spectacular, and from the screenshots featured on the Z site it appears much the same way with Samurai Warriors. The effects may make it look shinier/cleaner, but it doesn't really look all that much different (see also: Sengoku Basara 3 is much the same way).
you sure? cause even in SD, DW6 empires looked really good for a warriors title.
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whisperwind
Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:19 am
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:13 am
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:04 am
Ok i'm going to level with everyone, i thought DW6Empires was the best title in any warriors series. So I was a little put out by how inferior SW3 handled and looked, and felt. But now it seems that Koei is gonna give it a MAJOR overhaul, and i'm pretty sure i want some of that pie! But on the other hand well, i already own the game soi'm basically seeing equal pros and cons on either side.
I don't know about major overhaul-- you can see from the way Warriors Orochi was converted to HD that the difference isn't actually all that spectacular, and from the screenshots featured on the Z site it appears much the same way with Samurai Warriors. The effects may make it look shinier/cleaner, but it doesn't really look all that much different (see also: Sengoku Basara 3 is much the same way).
you sure? cause even in SD, DW6 empires looked really good for a warriors title.
Yeah, but that was DW6. DW6 was always in HD to begin with.
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:32 am
whisperwind
Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:19 am
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:13 am
whisperwind
Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:04 am
Ok i'm going to level with everyone, i thought DW6Empires was the best title in any warriors series. So I was a little put out by how inferior SW3 handled and looked, and felt. But now it seems that Koei is gonna give it a MAJOR overhaul, and i'm pretty sure i want some of that pie! But on the other hand well, i already own the game soi'm basically seeing equal pros and cons on either side.
I don't know about major overhaul-- you can see from the way Warriors Orochi was converted to HD that the difference isn't actually all that spectacular, and from the screenshots featured on the Z site it appears much the same way with Samurai Warriors. The effects may make it look shinier/cleaner, but it doesn't really look all that much different (see also: Sengoku Basara 3 is much the same way).
you sure? cause even in SD, DW6 empires looked really good for a warriors title.
Yeah, but that was DW6. DW6 was always in HD to begin with.
Guess so, but it stands to reason that any game on the PS3 will ahve superior graphics compared to it's coutnerparts on Wii and 360. Am i right?
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:48 am
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:32 am
whisperwind
Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:19 am
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:13 am
whisperwind
Fri Nov 5, 2010 1:04 am
Ok i'm going to level with everyone, i thought DW6Empires was the best title in any warriors series. So I was a little put out by how inferior SW3 handled and looked, and felt. But now it seems that Koei is gonna give it a MAJOR overhaul, and i'm pretty sure i want some of that pie! But on the other hand well, i already own the game soi'm basically seeing equal pros and cons on either side.
I don't know about major overhaul-- you can see from the way Warriors Orochi was converted to HD that the difference isn't actually all that spectacular, and from the screenshots featured on the Z site it appears much the same way with Samurai Warriors. The effects may make it look shinier/cleaner, but it doesn't really look all that much different (see also: Sengoku Basara 3 is much the same way).
you sure? cause even in SD, DW6 empires looked really good for a warriors title.
Yeah, but that was DW6. DW6 was always in HD to begin with.
Guess so, but it stands to reason that any game on the PS3 will ahve superior graphics compared to it's coutnerparts on Wii and 360. Am i right?
No, it doesn't necessarily have to be true.
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So I'm out of luck in wanting Naomasa Ii as a character?
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Thu Nov 4, 2010 10:27 pm
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I think the Tokugawa deserve more LOYAL retainers in this game besides Tadakatsu, Hanzo and Ina (Masamune's a bit loyal I guess and Kanbei's....Kanbei...). But seriously, they're like the only 3 standing tall for Tokugawa. Naomasa Li and maybe Hidetada Tokugawa could fix that.
How about Torii Mototada? I much rather see him than Naomasa, plus he would add an entire new level that nobody else ever could (It would be weird if the Western army were facing an army of generics for such an important battle, so without him it would likely never get added), plus the guy was a total bamf, he took on the entire western army with, what was it, 20 or less soldiers? AND he had a limp! He went down like a badass. Naomasa just kinda got sick and gave up. I dunno, I've always felt Mototada would be the way more interesting inclusion, though I rarely see people mention him. Nobuyuki would also be a great add to the Tokugawa, More Sanada/Tokugawa dynamics, plus add some more depth to Ina and Yukimura's friendship. Though I don't think anyone will be added as a full fledge new character, I'm thinking returning people (Musashi and Kojiro maybe) and the rest will be NPC.
Wow, he does sound cool. I like this idea. Mototada does sound like a good addition but hell, add him and Naomasa! Tokugawa deserves more love. -_- Btw, am I the only one who thinks Kanbei and Gracia being friends of some sort would be touching? (Considering both were Christians...) it's just a thought.
I think (and hope) that'll be Gracia and Masamune :dance: (Masamune was christian too) After all, they was with Magoichi in the end of the SW2. Also I hope to see the sister of Magoichi :dance: :dance: :dance: (Maggie Saika, I still don't believe in a genderswap made by capcom, why do this? and with just one caracter?) Sorry for the bad english and a good day to you :)
I don't recall Masamune being a Christian... his daughter Iroha was though. Even still, Masamune and Gracia being friends sounds nice too. He needs a female friend (I always thought Ina or Okuni would be interesting for him but with Yukimura taking Ina, Okuni or Gracia would do.) ^_^
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Thu Nov 4, 2010 10:27 pm
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Wed Nov 3, 2010 8:59 pm
Meliel
Wed Nov 3, 2010 3:16 pm
I think the Tokugawa deserve more LOYAL retainers in this game besides Tadakatsu, Hanzo and Ina (Masamune's a bit loyal I guess and Kanbei's....Kanbei...). But seriously, they're like the only 3 standing tall for Tokugawa. Naomasa Li and maybe Hidetada Tokugawa could fix that.
How about Torii Mototada? I much rather see him than Naomasa, plus he would add an entire new level that nobody else ever could (It would be weird if the Western army were facing an army of generics for such an important battle, so without him it would likely never get added), plus the guy was a total bamf, he took on the entire western army with, what was it, 20 or less soldiers? AND he had a limp! He went down like a badass. Naomasa just kinda got sick and gave up. I dunno, I've always felt Mototada would be the way more interesting inclusion, though I rarely see people mention him. Nobuyuki would also be a great add to the Tokugawa, More Sanada/Tokugawa dynamics, plus add some more depth to Ina and Yukimura's friendship. Though I don't think anyone will be added as a full fledge new character, I'm thinking returning people (Musashi and Kojiro maybe) and the rest will be NPC.
Wow, he does sound cool. I like this idea. Mototada does sound like a good addition but hell, add him and Naomasa! Tokugawa deserves more love. -_- Btw, am I the only one who thinks Kanbei and Gracia being friends of some sort would be touching? (Considering both were Christians...) it's just a thought.
I think (and hope) that'll be Gracia and Masamune :dance: (Masamune was christian too) After all, they was with Magoichi in the end of the SW2. Also I hope to see the sister of Magoichi :dance: :dance: :dance: (Maggie Saika, I still don't believe in a genderswap made by capcom, why do this? and with just one caracter?) Sorry for the bad english and a good day to you :)
I don't recall Masamune being a Christian... his daughter Iroha was though. Even still, Masamune and Gracia being friends sounds nice too. He needs a female friend (I always thought Ina or Okuni would be interesting for him but with Yukimura taking Ina, Okuni or Gracia would do.) ^_^
Come now, anyone whose played SW1 will know that there is only one girl on the roster who can be Masamune's friend/GF...Oichi!

Granted her love is Nagamasa but remember she outlives him, and it's interesting to note that both Oichi and Masamune were grown from the same idea and have evolved parallell to each other. So i think that makes her the natural choice, besides i've always wanted to see her live to see Sekigahara, imagine that.
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Ummm... Oichi also messed around with Katsuie as well.

Wouldn't that make her a crib robber if she went after Masamune Date?
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Ummm... Oichi also messed around with Katsuie as well.

Wouldn't that make her a crib robber if she went after Masamune Date?
>implying that's stopped people in anime from getting it on
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Thu Nov 4, 2010 11:57 pm
Uh, it was certainly known who Magoichi was. Suzuki Shigeoki, Suzuki Shigehide, Suzuki Shigekane and Suzuki Shigetomo were all "Magoichi."
Ya thats what I meant is that Magoichi wasnt the guys name...but a title more like. So the character could represent any number of the saika leaders.

Yes they were all listed as men...but what if one was a female dressed as a man? Ya never know back then lol
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Okay, so what I hear is that CAW will get something like a musou mode.

NIIIIIIIICCCCCCEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
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I wanna see the 4 Guardians of Tokugawa in all their glory and not just Honda hogging the spotlight.
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Other than Honda, did the other three do anything? Naomasa Ii I can see, I think he is able to hold his own story, being all crimson and junk (even though I doubt they would make him crimson and junk).

But the other two...(and even Naomasa to an extent) nothing really sets them apart from Honda. Correct me if I am wrong. I would like to see Naomasa though.
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Fri Nov 5, 2010 5:04 am
I wanna see the 4 Guardians of Tokugawa in all their glory and not just Honda hogging the spotlight.
See, I DON'T want that because it'll just end up like an awkward Sentai-style team-- wait, no... SW3 already does have a Sentai-style team. Beside which, even if the number isn't rounded out the same way Tadakatsu, Hanzo, and Ina are already pretty good Guardians.

I'd love to see Masanobu Honda, but Kanbei seems to be filling out that role now.
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Little more than three words...wouldn't you agree?...

Also, Maggie Saika? No, just no. There was no such recorded evidence in history that he pretty much existed, let alone even had a sister, and if he in fact did, her name wouldn't be "Maggie."
Besides, the idea has already been explored in Sengoku Basara, so don't bet on this. I mean, that's not to say that you could create a CAW and name it Maggie Saika, but nonetheless, there is no such person...
Edited by Mei Ling, Fri Nov 5, 2010 7:20 am.
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Well, he could represent a different type of Leadership compared to Honda. It was said that he didn't tolerate failure and had a habit of killing even his own subordanites for even the smallest of mistakes. Not to mention that while Honda is obedient and patient, he is impulsive and prefered to join in the fighting.
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SazukeEX
Fri Nov 5, 2010 5:04 am
I wanna see the 4 Guardians of Tokugawa in all their glory and not just Honda hogging the spotlight.
I want see them too but only after bunch of other characters.

In following order: Otomo Sorin - Hideie Ukita - Matsu Maeda - Naomasa Ii - Tadaoki Hosokawa - Yoshitsugu Otani - Hisahide Matsunaga - Okatsu - Yasumasa Sakakibara... I can continue but it`s too long... so stop on the first two and I`ll be happy if they were added ^_^
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Samurai Warriors 3Z - The first Screenshots

Here is the source:
http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2010/11/05/samurai_warriors_3z_screens/


EDIT:

More Screenshots on Famitsu:
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201011/05035524.html




Edited by Andreas-andi, Fri Nov 5, 2010 11:40 am.
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This screenshot suggests that Kojiro and Musashi will not return. Otherwise, they would be either before or after Katsuie.
****, that is a really bad news :uh: mmm then I shouldn`t wait Goemon or new characters. Lead to conclusion that Gracia it`s only one character that KOEI decided to add in the SW3 Z.
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Posted Image This screenshot suggests that Kojiro and Musashi will not return. Otherwise, they would be either before or after Katsuie.
****, that is a really bad news :uh: mmm then I shouldn`t wait Goemon or new characters. Lead to conclusion that Gracia it`s only one character that KOEI decided to add in the SW3 Z.
I really liked the pair of them especially Kojiro but there really isnt anything more they can do with the storyline for them sadly... to be honest we should be grateful Gracia is getting a return, she had amazing potential but i think KOEI really blew it with her becoming a Magoichi Saika stalker... especially as he was a notorious ladies man in the game and yet he was more of a bady sitter with her. Heres hoping she gets a complete overhaul storywise and takes a different angle (ie Mitsuhide interactions, christianity devotion, a wife not some young girl as seen in the game etc).

As for the other two i was always expecting them like almost all other NPC unique SW characters to date in becoming playable, im really excited for Masanori Fukushima... hes actually been my big request since i played SW1 for the first time and him becoming unique but not playable was ... dissapointing to say the least. Still this is Koei making ammends and i for one will be playing him first in the game provided he starts the game unlockable. The weapons doesnt excite me as such but im indeed curious about what kind of moveset Aya will have... likely a more magical one that physical as it looks more like a magic rod than a staff.
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This screenshot suggests that Kojiro and Musashi will not return. Otherwise, they would be either before or after Katsuie.
****, that is a really bad news :uh: mmm then I shouldn`t wait Goemon or new characters. Lead to conclusion that Gracia it`s only one character that KOEI decided to add in the SW3 Z.
I find it quite annoying to say. I was hoping the return of Gracia, Kojiro, Musashi and possibly Goemon. -_-
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No words can express how happy I am to hear Gracia is back in the series. No effing idea. But first, lemme just clarify; all of these additions to SW3 is ONLY for the PS3? Or will the Samurai Warriors 3 Xtreme Legends for the Wii include Gracia, Aya and Masanori too? I'm just scared that I might have read it all wrong >_<

The characters are included in both versions.

Z is getting the original SW3 in HD + 60fps + the extra announced characters + a new challenge mode to replace Murasame.
Ahh, great! That made me remember how Murasame castle is strictly Wii-version, though I forget why that is ;A;

/lame for getting the Wii for the sole purpose of playing the 3rd game :'|d

AND NOW THAT 60 FPS IS MAKING ME REGRET MY DECISION HUHUHUHU. J-Just a bit though. All I'm hoping for now is an announcement on whether or not this will all be released internationally. Japan, stop hording all the goods skgnkdfshg, lmao.
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SWZ is SW3 original HD maybe this is not complete all characters imo.
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SWZ is SW3 original HD maybe this is not complete all characters imo.
What are you talking about? SW3Z is the original SW3 PLUS more new features and characters.

I'm personally not in a rut about the two swordsmen returning. Aya and Masanori getting stories and unique movesets makes them new for me.
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