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Sengoku Musou 3 Z; Release date confirmed, scans inside
Topic Started: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:17 pm (189,784 Views)
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Divine Mercy
Sat Nov 6, 2010 1:51 pm
I get to use Aya's cool as heck weapon that vaguely reminds me of the .hack// series' starting weapons for a certain class.....
Mistral weapon in .hack//Infection.

Is it possible that the movesets of Gracia are changed to be easier to play?
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 2:27 pm
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 1:51 pm
I get to use Aya's cool as heck weapon that vaguely reminds me of the .hack// series' starting weapons for a certain class.....
Mistral weapon in .hack//Infection.

Is it possible that the movesets of Gracia are changed to be easier to play?
Possible...but not entirely probable. Her moveset from the looks of it appears to have remained the same (based on the weapon she has, ie. her bracelets).

Maybe they will improve on it slightly so that is has more reach or the attacks cover slightly more ground, things they have done in the past, without actually altering the entire moveset, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything drastic. She'll probably have the same lame moveset.
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Divine Mercy
Sat Nov 6, 2010 1:51 pm
I get to use Aya's cool as heck weapon that vaguely reminds me of the .hack// series' starting weapons for a certain class.....
Mistral weapon in .hack//Infection.

Is it possible that the movesets of Gracia are changed to be easier to play?
Possible...but not entirely probable. Her moveset from the looks of it appears to have remained the same (based on the weapon she has, ie. her bracelets).

Maybe they will improve on it slightly so that is has more reach or the attacks cover slightly more ground, things they have done in the past, without actually altering the entire moveset, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything drastic. She'll probably have the same lame moveset.
It's a shame. She has a good potential movesets unless they are badly exploited, I think.
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donthatekongming
Sat Nov 6, 2010 6:31 am
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 5:15 am
The biggest hurdle for SW3 Z would be whatever price they'd try to sell it at. I can't see them justifying it at $60, two games in one or not.
ya I remember paying like 70 for MOZ wen it came out! Hope they do like 40 for this.....but I would still pay 70 if it came out in english lol
well i think they made it 70 because it was like a combination of the past two games...like a collectors kind of thing that might be why WOZ was so much..but i agree i hope 40 lol 40-50 thats about average for a new game in the US anyways

@keneticam yea! XD lol that would be cool to see gracia with just magic i mean because that was the only thing i liked was the projectiles >:) lol i'm not a big fan a green i'm more of a pink and blue kind of girl. but yea i wonder what aya's weapon will be...i mean the naginata kind of fit her you know...and no one else has one in the game as far as i can remember
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I do hope they release SW3Z! Its one of my anticipated games for 2011 and i dont give a damn if i dont understand japanese, im still gonna pre-order it!

I do hope Kojiro and Musashi makes a comeback. Love those two, specially kojiro, ahhh i miss his shouts when he does a charge attack :XD
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 2:27 pm
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 1:51 pm
I get to use Aya's cool as heck weapon that vaguely reminds me of the .hack// series' starting weapons for a certain class.....
Mistral weapon in .hack//Infection.

Is it possible that the movesets of Gracia are changed to be easier to play?
THERE WE GO, THANK YOU :lol:

As for movesets, maybe. But I think her whole abusive specials made her the most unique (and breakable) out of all the characters on an equal level of pros and cons, so I'm not entirely sure if KOEI would bank on that still. Personally, I'd love it if they did. It'd be super cool too if they enhanced her moveset and she gets a weapon called Twilight Bracelet osnap, but the thing I'm looking forward to the most is her story and characterization. Will she top Kunoichi as genki girl, or get an Oichi-SW1-styl-make-over and mature a bit? NOBODY KNOOOOWS.~
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I still hope an online mode. (Musou Mode in cooperation with another person, would be the top).
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Oh Musashi. I do hope we're back so I can give you a Beautiful Death!

So Campy, but gosh I love those two. I mean ONLY one new character? 2XL gave us 3 brand new unique characters, and then we could play Kojiro and Katsuie. It seems unlikely to me that an XL would have ONLY one new character, let alone a returning character from last XL..

If I were a betting person, I'd say there's more surprises in store for us. At least one more unique character (i.e. BRAND NEW) and HOPEFULLY the two legendary swordsman will return. Hell, even their movesets for CAW and I'd be happy.
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 4:32 pm
Oh Musashi. I do hope we're back so I can give you a Beautiful Death!

So Campy, but gosh I love those two. I mean ONLY one new character? 2XL gave us 3 brand new unique characters, and then we could play Kojiro and Katsuie. It seems unlikely to me that an XL would have ONLY one new character, let alone a returning character from last XL..

If I were a betting person, I'd say there's more surprises in store for us. At least one more unique character (i.e. BRAND NEW) and HOPEFULLY the two legendary swordsman will return. Hell, even their movesets for CAW and I'd be happy.
There isn't just one new character; Gracia isn't new considering she was there in the last XL installment. Technically, there's two new playable characters coming into the roster for SW3XL, and those are Aya Gozen and Masanori Fukushima. If you count the added people for the original SW3, that's a total of 9 new people for the game. Three characters coming in for the XL expansion pack isn't much of an issue now if you consider how many they added for the original game.

But then again, I do agree with the notion that KOEI might surprise us with more characters coming back. I like Musashi and Kojiro, but what I'm skeptic about concerning their return is that, if I can recall my history correctly, they weren't exactly very relevant during the time period of the game. And this SW is making it very clear that they want the gamers to see the distinction between time periods, and how important the three are in Japan's overall history. They were, however, very relevant during the latter years. I mean, come on. Musashi himself was born late 1580's, when most of the important battles concerning the bulk of the Sengoku era were already finished. Then again, I might be wrong so feel free to correct XD

LONG STORY SHORT: Yes, there is still a possibility KOEI will bring more people back, or add new people to the roster :Dd
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You think Musashi and Kojiro will come back?
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I doubt they'll return. It has been said that there will only be 10 new stories, and adding the FMO characters together with Aya, Gracia, and Fukushima

No, Kotaro, Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto, Ranmaru, and Okuni + Aya, Masanori, and Gracia = 10 stories.

Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.

All I am saying is so far, evidence is strongly against any more characters. But is it possible? Sure. So far nothing though.
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 6:32 am
Indeed... If they charge full price I don't think Sony will approve. At least not for a Western release.
And this will probably be the main thing (unless of course, Nintendo of America technically owning the localization also has a hand in things).

SCEA won't allow Koei to sell this type of thing for full price. For that matter, let's not forget that Koei has other releases vying for localization that stands to occupy a good portion of next year, even before we start talking about "SW3Z".

I could see Koei possibly skipping over the option of SW3Z, if for nothing other than the fact that they'll have bigger fish to fry.
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 7:43 pm
I doubt they'll return. It has been said that there will only be 10 new stories, and adding the FMO characters together with Aya, Gracia, and Fukushima

No, Kotaro, Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto, Ranmaru, and Okuni + Aya, Masanori, and Gracia = 10 stories.

Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.

All I am saying is so far, evidence is strongly against any more characters. But is it possible? Sure. So far nothing though.
Well they could have not unlockedthem yet and they wouldnt be in the selection screen.

But you prolly got it right. Its already 10 new stories and they are focusing mostly on DW7.

Lets just hope they bring over seas more then ANYTHING!
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 7:43 pm
Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.
Well, not only that, but it's also got the slot for your Created Characters, so it's actually a shot of Free Mode.
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Yeah, they have SW3DS, Troy, DWG3, and DW7 already in the works to come here. They very well might skip SW3Z for release here since they don't want to saturate the market over here. Especially since the Warriors games aren't the biggest brands around in the West.
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Yeah, they have SW3DS, Troy, DWG3, and DW7 already in the works to come here. They very well might skip SW3Z for release here since they don't want to saturate the market over here. Especially since the Warriors games aren't the biggest brands around in the West.
DONT say that!

I will buy for sure if they bring here!

Alot of us PS3 owneres didnt get to play. And the inclusion of trophies...yes!
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 2:45 pm
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 1:51 pm
I get to use Aya's cool as heck weapon that vaguely reminds me of the .hack// series' starting weapons for a certain class.....
Mistral weapon in .hack//Infection.

Is it possible that the movesets of Gracia are changed to be easier to play?
Possible...but not entirely probable. Her moveset from the looks of it appears to have remained the same (based on the weapon she has, ie. her bracelets).

Maybe they will improve on it slightly so that is has more reach or the attacks cover slightly more ground, things they have done in the past, without actually altering the entire moveset, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything drastic. She'll probably have the same lame moveset.
It's a shame. She has a good potential movesets unless they are badly exploited, I think.
Consider how musou gauge is kinda limited to this time around. I think it will be even more broken for her to keep the SW2 musou,special spam. Gracia owns the SW verse
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I apologize for laughing at all the people who want Kojiro and Musashi back, but yeah...everybody has forgotten this one.
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My question is, however simply that, both the PS3 and the Wii versions, aside from the Murasame/TBA Modes, will have everything else right? (All FMV's, etc.) I just fear, that with the Wii Hardware, there may not be an option, unless they do the swapping or something.
Edited by Mei Ling, Sun Nov 7, 2010 3:06 am.
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Any chance this may come to the 360 if it gets a western release? *like DW7*
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 7:43 pm
I doubt they'll return. It has been said that there will only be 10 new stories, and adding the FMO characters together with Aya, Gracia, and Fukushima

No, Kotaro, Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto, Ranmaru, and Okuni + Aya, Masanori, and Gracia = 10 stories.

Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.

All I am saying is so far, evidence is strongly against any more characters. But is it possible? Sure. So far nothing though.
No, that equals 9
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 7:43 pm
I doubt they'll return. It has been said that there will only be 10 new stories, and adding the FMO characters together with Aya, Gracia, and Fukushima

No, Kotaro, Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto, Ranmaru, and Okuni + Aya, Masanori, and Gracia = 10 stories.

Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.

All I am saying is so far, evidence is strongly against any more characters. But is it possible? Sure. So far nothing though.
No, that equals 9
10.....
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Sat Nov 6, 2010 7:43 pm
I doubt they'll return. It has been said that there will only be 10 new stories, and adding the FMO characters together with Aya, Gracia, and Fukushima

No, Kotaro, Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto, Ranmaru, and Okuni + Aya, Masanori, and Gracia = 10 stories.

Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.

All I am saying is so far, evidence is strongly against any more characters. But is it possible? Sure. So far nothing though.
No, that equals 9
10.....
It's 9 stories, I counted
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sat Nov 6, 2010 7:43 pm
I doubt they'll return. It has been said that there will only be 10 new stories, and adding the FMO characters together with Aya, Gracia, and Fukushima

No, Kotaro, Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto, Ranmaru, and Okuni + Aya, Masanori, and Gracia = 10 stories.

Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.

All I am saying is so far, evidence is strongly against any more characters. But is it possible? Sure. So far nothing though.
No, that equals 9
10.....
It's 9 stories, I counted
1. No
2. Kotaro
3. Toshiie
4. Katsuie
5. Yoshimoto
6. Ranmaru
7. Okuni

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8. Aya
9. Masanori
10. Gracia

=

10.

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I apologize for laughing at all the people who want Kojiro and Musashi back, but yeah...everybody has forgotten this one.
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Dosan was never included in the game though. That was just a concept art for the original Warriors Orochi as far I know whereas Kojiro and Musashi have a much more concrete claim. It's still likely that they might be included down the line, at least more so than Dosan.

And, yeah. It's ten new stories, lol.
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Sun Nov 7, 2010 4:49 am
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Mr. Kamikaze
Sat Nov 6, 2010 7:43 pm
I doubt they'll return. It has been said that there will only be 10 new stories, and adding the FMO characters together with Aya, Gracia, and Fukushima

No, Kotaro, Toshiie, Katsuie, Yoshimoto, Ranmaru, and Okuni + Aya, Masanori, and Gracia = 10 stories.

Plus in the screen of the Character Select screen, you see Gracia, Aya, and Masanori in the places they should be and no one else. I am pretty sure that is it for the new characters.

All I am saying is so far, evidence is strongly against any more characters. But is it possible? Sure. So far nothing though.
No, that equals 9
10.....
It's 9 stories, I counted
1. No
2. Kotaro
3. Toshiie
4. Katsuie
5. Yoshimoto
6. Ranmaru
7. Okuni

+

8. Aya
9. Masanori
10. Gracia

=

10.

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On topic, Dosan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Musashi/Kojiro
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