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Sengoku Musou 3 Z; Release date confirmed, scans inside
Topic Started: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:17 pm (189,780 Views)
Xalfrea
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Yeah, sorry for coming off as a douche, but really, people shouldn't expect new news all the time, every single week. Singular posts of nothing but "When's the next issue" or "Is there news?" are not helpful or constructive to the topic at all.
Edited by Xalfrea, Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:59 am.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:08 am
I don't realy care if we get Kojiro and Musashi back...

Imo, the two of them are like DW's mystic carries. They're more so 'folk heroes' (for lack of a better word) than anything else. Same goes for Goemon.

And yes, I am aware they are both real people. :<
They are perhaps a little "offset" relative to other characters but they have not done too much to make them special, so to speak. (Unlike the mystics which shows that they did not necessarily belong in a particular game, for example). I hope to see Kojiro because I prefer the other two. (For me, it's Zhang He of Samurai Warriors and I love effeminate boys).
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sorry for triple posting, and sorry for my two recent post i meant to quote jsun's :

Although would be a little happier if they surprised us with a couple more free mode characters. 3 new additions (which are HARDLY new...) just seems way too light for an XL/Z.

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i agree this is way to light, the game is coming out next year and all we get is 3 returning characters, no i think they should atleast add 2 more new characters and bring back at least 2 more characters.

this is who i want:
new-
tadaoki hosokawa
yoshitsugu otani

returning-
goemon ishikawa
kojiro sasaki and/or musashi miyamoto

but my computer acted up. sorry
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DarkMantisTalon
Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:35 am
sorry for triple posting, and sorry for my two recent post i meant to quote jsun's :

Although would be a little happier if they surprised us with a couple more free mode characters. 3 new additions (which are HARDLY new...) just seems way too light for an XL/Z.

with:

i agree this is way to light, the game is coming out next year and all we get is 3 returning characters, no i think they should atleast add 2 more new characters and bring back at least 2 more characters.

this is who i want:
new-
tadaoki hosokawa
yoshitsugu otani

returning-
goemon ishikawa
kojiro sasaki and/or musashi miyamoto

but my computer acted up. sorry
You can always go back and edit your post. :)
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If there should be new characters, I'd see Nobuyuki, Naomasa, Otani or Chiyome. (It should be already there is new characters and even if so, I think there there will be no more than two).
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For some reason, everybody wants Chiyome. I always felt that Kunoichi was an Expy of Chiyome and the Sanada Ten Braves anyway, so, honestly there would be no need for her.
Nana...I can't really see, that'd probably be like saying ChaCha will be playable.
I do still think Matsu Maeda has a very good chance of making it in, seeing as how Keiji and Toshiie are already in to begin with.
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The idea of seeing Kunoichi as Chiyome I dislike... In this case, both the renaming in the next Samurai Warriors. I imagine both beautiful but bleak. On Matsu, I hope to see from Samurai Warriors 2: XL. It gives me the female character a priority.
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:29 am
Do you know who is him in this vid? he's unpc in sw1 (Date Masamune story)

link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqarErTSr70
I always took that to be Kojuro.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:40 am
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:29 am
Do you know who is him in this vid? he's unpc in sw1 (Date Masamune story)

link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqarErTSr70
I always took that to be Kojuro.
You know, if they made Kojuuro like this guy, I'd be in absolute heaven.

"My lord, which side are we on?"

"Which side should we chose-- oh, not again!"

If Koei makes this happen, I would be a very happy Chibi. Basara fans might be a little disturbed, but hey, it'd be an interesting chemistry between a headstrong Masamune, a laid back Magoichi, and a worrisome but loyal to the very end Kojuuro.

Might be the only one loving this idea, but that's okay. I'll just pretend that poor guy was Kojuuro.
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Frankly, if Kunoichi was in place of Chiyome I would much rather have Chiyome. It wouldn't have been hard to rename 'Kunoichi' to 'Chiyome' and call it day.

That said, people would certainly go mad over the fact that 'Kunoichi' was not in the game anymore.

I have grown far more open to the inclusion of fictional characters, within reason. But not when those fictional characters hinder the chances of more interesting characters from a place in the game, such as Chiyome. Kuno is literally a no name whose only relationship has ever been with Yukimura and any other relationship she forms seems terribly forced.

But I digress. Last thing I want to do is start a 'Kuno iz da best!' debate....she is in, and I can tolerate it. But if she were to ever be cut again (which I doubt), I won't miss her...especially if it is in favor of Chiyome or one of the actual Braves.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:48 am
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:40 am
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:29 am
Do you know who is him in this vid? he's unpc in sw1 (Date Masamune story)

link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqarErTSr70
I always took that to be Kojuro.
You know, if they made Kojuuro like this guy, I'd be in absolute heaven.

"My lord, which side are we on?"

"Which side should we chose-- oh, not again!"

If Koei makes this happen, I would be a very happy Chibi. Basara fans might be a little disturbed, but hey, it'd be an interesting chemistry between a headstrong Masamune, a laid back Magoichi, and a worrisome but loyal to the very end Kojuuro.

Might be the only one loving this idea, but that's okay. I'll just pretend that poor guy was Kojuuro.
Yeah, Kojuro was a pretty interesting guy, and extremely loyal to the Date clan. Apparently even when he was made a daimyo he still loyally served the Date, and was allowed to keep a castle as a special exception to the "one castle per domain" rule put in place by the Shogunate. I'm not entirely familiar with what he did to merit such things, but apparently Kojuro must've been really good to someone.
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I will always think Kunoichi remain Kunoichi for the simple reason that it has been known as this. I do not know how to explain it but it would be weird to see changed Kunoichi in Chiyome. Even if it would, in a sense, we lose a little of what the Kunoichi before. It does not bother me in the series, but I admit it's a character I'd love to see (with Matsu). Moreover, I think Kunoichi and Nene will look a little, both in terms of movesets than their personality. If they add Chiyome, they could make a frigid woman. The opposite of Kunoichi/Nene, actually.
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I would really like if Chiyome showed up. I imagine her to be like a female Hanzo in character. Kuno being Chiyome Ha! Thats a good one but no. Kuno doesn't fit the role. Although Kuno could fit the role as one of Chiyome's ladies she trained or as she is now representing the Sanda 10 I think.
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That's how you can see Kunoichi, yes. It alone accounts for the 10 Sanada.
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No no. I didn't mean I WANT Kuno to be Chiyome. Are you joking? That would be awful. My point was, if Chiyome was around, there'd be no point in a Kunoichi. Chiyome can take Kuno's role (and I don't mean her personality either or her shameful love interest to Yukimura) but I mean more his protector. Only this time, she would actually have some believable interaction with Shingen and maybe even Sakon and not be all ditzy and what not.

I would prefer for Chyome to be much darker, like Aya.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:02 am
I would prefer for Chyome to be much darker, like Aya.
A beautiful dark ninja. (Chiyome + Matsu are two female characters that I want to see added. For me, the cast of female characters will be complete later. I'm not interested in other female characters of the time).
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There is an awful lot of talk of people wanting added characters to those announced but im sure they already stated how many stories would be playable in the game and the numbers only accounted for the addition of Gracia, Masanori and Aya as playables as well as the free mode only characters getting their own plotline.

As such its looking extremely unlike we will be seeing any more new characters added on but im more than happy to be proven wrong on this - i just cant help but feel that KOEI will probably be content with what is around 10 as i recall new stories for the XL version. Free Mode only characters being added to an expansion is even less likely... perhaps in SW4 yeah but an XL adding free mode characters just doesnt seem to fit with anything KOEI have done in the past.
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Speaking of adding new features, do you think Koei will add alternate outfits to each character this time around?
Most likely they will. ^_^ The main reason why they didn't have them in the Original Samurai Warriors Three game, was because they had Color Edit for you to fiddle around with. ^_^
Then there's a hope! =D if Koei will bring back the alternate costumes from SW1 I won't even bother, I'd be happy actually.
I totally agree with you. Being able to mix and match clothing, with the Color Editing option would give a somewhat endless touch, to... how do you say, dress-up? :lol: Seriously though, that'd be awesome. ^_^
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Speaking of adding new features, do you think Koei will add alternate outfits to each character this time around?
Most likely they will. ^_^ The main reason why they didn't have them in the Original Samurai Warriors Three game, was because they had Color Edit for you to fiddle around with. ^_^
Then there's a hope! =D if Koei will bring back the alternate costumes from SW1 I won't even bother, I'd be happy actually.
I totally agree with you. Being able to mix and match clothing, with the Color Editing option would give a somewhat endless touch, to... how do you say, dress-up? :lol: Seriously though, that'd be awesome. ^_^
Strangely, since the Edit Color is here, the costumes do not interest me anymore. But hey, if there are any, it will always be nice. ^_^
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:24 am
There is an awful lot of talk of people wanting added characters to those announced but im sure they already stated how many stories would be playable in the game and the numbers only accounted for the addition of Gracia, Masanori and Aya as playables as well as the free mode only characters getting their own plotline.

As such its looking extremely unlike we will be seeing any more new characters added on but im more than happy to be proven wrong on this - i just cant help but feel that KOEI will probably be content with what is around 10 as i recall new stories for the XL version. Free Mode only characters being added to an expansion is even less likely... perhaps in SW4 yeah but an XL adding free mode characters just doesnt seem to fit with anything KOEI have done in the past.
I am pretty sure that is all for the 'new characters'. So this is all really just what we would've liked to see. There isn't much we can do about it though, obviously. So leave us to out delusions sir! :hehe:

In any case, I am surprisingly content with only 3. I would rather more characters come in in SW4, when it is released on PS3 and/or 360 initially rather than being released on Wii and then ported later.

As it stands, I am not all that enthused about SW3, SW3XL, or SW3Z...so I am willing to wait till SW4 for the actual new characters.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:16 am
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:24 am
There is an awful lot of talk of people wanting added characters to those announced but im sure they already stated how many stories would be playable in the game and the numbers only accounted for the addition of Gracia, Masanori and Aya as playables as well as the free mode only characters getting their own plotline. As such its looking extremely unlike we will be seeing any more new characters added on but im more than happy to be proven wrong on this - i just cant help but feel that KOEI will probably be content with what is around 10 as i recall new stories for the XL version. Free Mode only characters being added to an expansion is even less likely... perhaps in SW4 yeah but an XL adding free mode characters just doesnt seem to fit with anything KOEI have done in the past.
I am pretty sure that is all for the 'new characters'. So this is all really just what we would've liked to see. There isn't much we can do about it though, obviously. So leave us to out delusions sir! :hehe: In any case, I am surprisingly content with only 3. I would rather more characters come in in SW4, when it is released on PS3 and/or 360 initially rather than being released on Wii and then ported later. As it stands, I am not all that enthused about SW3, SW3XL, or SW3Z...so I am willing to wait till SW4 for the actual new characters.
Indeed... these games are essentially just SW3 with add ons to catch up the other current gen console gamers on whats been happening with the series - a SW4 for example on either of the 360 or PS3 consoles without SW3 being released on them would have been a baffling idea given they released the other games of the series on the consoles for this gen and last for the companies.

Three added characters and the free mode characters getting stories is sufficient - after all the main KOEI focus will be on DW7, Gundam 3, Fist of the North Star and Warriors of Troy... theyve more than enough on their plate to really try and push the envelope for a XL for SW as well.

Still taking out all the extra stories and the three characters not playable in the original Wii version of the game im wondering what the new mode will be replacing the one which was Wii exclusive. Its not been discussed in any detail so i guess its a case of waiting and seeing what is announced further down the line.
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Not to mention the second single weapon that should be added to the game For those who do not, it will create them.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:48 am
If Koei makes this happen, I would be a very happy Chibi. Basara fans might be a little disturbed, but hey, it'd be an interesting chemistry between a headstrong Masamune, a laid back Magoichi, and a worrisome but loyal to the very end Kojuuro.

I'm with you on that :)
they should def add Kojuro with Masamune and Magoichi
imagine Kojuro's story, he'd probably have a breakdown if Masamune decided world domination

Masamune: Japan is all mine. Now we'll take over the world!
Kojuro: *faints*
on the other hand, that's the same in his SW1 ending nvm:facepalm:
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Kojuro would be a good addition. I think it's an interesting character but what's more, we would have an ally for Masamune.

At the risk of repeating myself, I find it too lonely compared to other characters. Even if it is not necessary since it is needed an ally, it would not be refused. Just to say that it is not found alone.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:48 am
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:40 am
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Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:29 am
Do you know who is him in this vid? he's unpc in sw1 (Date Masamune story) link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqarErTSr70
I always took that to be Kojuro.
You know, if they made Kojuuro like this guy, I'd be in absolute heaven. "My lord, which side are we on?" "Which side should we chose-- oh, not again!" If Koei makes this happen, I would be a very happy Chibi. Basara fans might be a little disturbed, but hey, it'd be an interesting chemistry between a headstrong Masamune, a laid back Magoichi, and a worrisome but loyal to the very end Kojuuro.
Why would we be disturbed? :mellow:
Worrisome Kojuuro sounds awesome to me. :hehe: I would love to see that, though, I'd be more please to see that sadistic Mogami Yoshiaki that I've been hoping for.

Eh, If Chiyome is added, they should just ditch Kunoichi, considering what they did to Kuno in SW3 I think I'd like to see her get cut and replaced by a badass ninja Chiyome. Nana would also be a nice add, only if they could give her and Motochika some good dynamics that don't turn out to be "Follow mah husband" story that are so popular in DW (though, SW has done really well with making the females great and interesting characters so far, I hope they can continue to do so) same for Matsu as well. :hehe:
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