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Sengoku Musou 3 Z; Release date confirmed, scans inside
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:28 pm
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:16 pm
I hope the game will be faster on PS3. On Wii, I found not that terrible.
It's confirmed to be in 60fps :cool:
Perfect! :lol:
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I don't know what 60fps means XD

But I will just take it as "Faster on Playstation"
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My hope also is that we will have more choice to create his character. I think particularly for the creation of female characters that are very limited in Samurai Warriors 3 compared to the creations of male characters. I hope they add more possibilities in this regard.
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Mr. Kamikaze
Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm
I don't know what 60fps means XD But I will just take it as "Faster on Playstation"
It means 'Frames Per Second'. THink of it as Disney Studios animating Mickey Mouse waving his hand, at only 30fps, Mickey's hand waving is slow and choppy, but at 60fps it's faster and more fluid.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:17 pm
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm
I don't know what 60fps means XD But I will just take it as "Faster on Playstation"
It means 'Frames Per Second'. THink of it as Disney Studios animating Mickey Mouse waving his hand, at only 30fps, Mickey's hand waving is slow and choppy, but at 60fps it's faster and more fluid.
At the same time, for a PS3 game, I think it's the least we can do.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm
I don't know what 60fps means XD But I will just take it as "Faster on Playstation"
It means 'Frames Per Second'. THink of it as Disney Studios animating Mickey Mouse waving his hand, at only 30fps, Mickey's hand waving is slow and choppy, but at 60fps it's faster and more fluid.
At the same time, for a PS3 game, I think it's the least we can do.
Definitely. Game devellopers like Team Ninja should really stop using 30fps, it's just making fans get too used to it and thus making it acceptable, which it shouldn't be. I don't want my eyes to be raped by choppy 30fps action, I want some nice fluid 60fps movements.
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Lambo
Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:20 pm
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Mr. Kamikaze
Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm
I don't know what 60fps means XD But I will just take it as "Faster on Playstation"
It means 'Frames Per Second'. THink of it as Disney Studios animating Mickey Mouse waving his hand, at only 30fps, Mickey's hand waving is slow and choppy, but at 60fps it's faster and more fluid.
At the same time, for a PS3 game, I think it's the least we can do.
Definitely. Game devellopers like Team Ninja should really stop using 30fps, it's just making fans get too used to it and thus making it acceptable, which it shouldn't be. I don't want my eyes to be raped by choppy 30fps action, I want some nice fluid 60fps movements.
I agree completely with your idea because I thought exactly the same thing.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm
I don't know what 60fps means XD

But I will just take it as "Faster on Playstation"
Sorry for the spam, but...

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Frame per second, btw.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:16 pm
I hope the game will be faster on PS3. On Wii, I found not that terrible.
Prepare to be disappointed, they said nothing about changing the pace of the game.
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I dunno, if you already have the Wii one, isn't getting the PS3 version for possibly a bigger price, I dunno, a waste of money? Oh sure it's your money I'm in no position to stop you, but still.
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Yeah, I would say if you have it for the Wii already, might as well get used to MIXJOY...

I am sure the PS3 version will be $50-60. Whereas, XL for the Wii will be $30-40. You'll be spending $10 more than what you bought SW3 Wii for much of the exact same thing.

I assume. I may very well be doing the math wrong. But for me personally, I will (if I do decide to buy it) be buying the SW3XL...unless financial circumstances change/
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:58 pm
Yeah, I would say if you have it for the Wii already, might as well get used to MIXJOY...

I am sure the PS3 version will be $50-60. Whereas, XL for the Wii will be $30-40. You'll be spending $10 more than what you bought SW3 Wii for much of the exact same thing.

I assume. I may very well be doing the math wrong. But for me personally, I will (if I do decide to buy it) be buying the SW3XL...unless financial circumstances change/
Same here, since I might actually have a PS3 by then, so I've been debating over it.

Then again, it might also depend on what the alternate mode they add instead of Murasame Castle is. Chances are though, it won't be enough to really sway me.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:44 pm
I dunno, if you already have the Wii one, isn't getting the PS3 version for possibly a bigger price, I dunno, a waste of money? Oh sure it's your money I'm in no position to stop you, but still.
Hey I'm a fan! lol Besides I'm getting both Xtreme Legends and Z if they come out for America so yeah Koei is going to love me next year. DW7, SW3Z, and SW3XL. :2up:
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:03 pm
Then again, it might also depend on what the alternate mode they add instead of Murasame Castle is. Chances are though, it won't be enough to really sway me.
that's the thing preventing me from getting the PS3 version as well

i my self recently got to play the wii version, financial issues have prevented me from getting it sooner, and Murasame Castle mode happens to be my favorite thing about SW3 so far.

im not sure i could give that up

also, even though Takamaru has the same move set as the Edit Sword characters, hes still fun to play as, and is still a very unique character in appearance, with his own VA.

i also love the character designs for the 4 lords, and being able to unlock them for CAW Mode is just pure epic win

dont wanna give that up.
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Fantaji
Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:21 pm
I hope that Nō has a good story because I found his story in Samurai Warriors 2 die of boredom, really. :/
Ummm...Fantaji, Nouhime is a female, meaning it would be her not his. U seem to be making this mistake alot on here. LOL :lol: anywho, im also hoping her story returns to how it was in sW1. SW2 was bleh! the typical "ill follow u wherever u go" type storyline
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:21 pm
I hope that Nō has a good story because I found his story in Samurai Warriors 2 die of boredom, really. :/
Ummm...Fantaji, Nouhime is a female, meaning it would be her not his. U seem to be making this mistake alot on here. LOL :lol: anywho, im also hoping her story returns to how it was in sW1. SW2 was bleh! the typical "ill follow u wherever u go" type storyline
Fantaji's native language isnt English, so she tends to word her sentences oddly.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:17 pm
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:11 pm
I don't know what 60fps means XD But I will just take it as "Faster on Playstation"
It means 'Frames Per Second'. THink of it as Disney Studios animating Mickey Mouse waving his hand, at only 30fps, Mickey's hand waving is slow and choppy, but at 60fps it's faster and more fluid.
Not the best analogy or comparison.

Film and television are 24 FPS animated or not. For Disney to be going 30 seconds would start to border on unnecessary. Related, the human eye also does not catch anything past 60 FPS. So if you see any morons advertising framerates past 60, please proceed to shut them down for idiocy.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:44 pm
I dunno, if you already have the Wii one, isn't getting the PS3 version for possibly a bigger price, I dunno, a waste of money? Oh sure it's your money I'm in no position to stop you, but still.
Eh, I just don't like the Wii all that much, especially if a game isn't even going to utilize the motion controls. Also, I just prefer the feel of the PS3 controls when it comes to the Warriors's games, though the Classic Controller Pro did very good in mimicking the typical control scheme (dead on, I think...).

I don't hate the Wii, but I really only got the console for some of the Nintendo exclusives, Fatal Frame 4 (in which I had to mod my Wii because apparently someone dropped the ball and it didn't get released in the states) and Epic Mickey.

Going to sell my copy of SW3 and put that and a few other games towards SW3Z if it comes to the states. Yeah, I'm paying $10 more than I paid in the first place, but at least I'll get additional characters to play as (because let's face it, I wasn't really going to play the FMO characters anyway) and 60 FPS.

Also, I found the Muresame mode to be quite useless to me... I'd pick more stories, more characters and improved frame rate over Muresame castle any day of the week.

Yeah, it does seem like a big waste in the end, but I really wish I could have just waited on purchasing the game the first place, that way I didn't have to feel as if I just wasted time and money when I could have just waited a few more months.

At least you lucked out and held off on buying it (well, more like couldn't afford to buy it XD). I feel as if Koei duped me. Big time.
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Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:02 am
At least you lucked out and held off on buying it (well, more like couldn't afford to buy it XD). I feel as if Koei duped me. Big time.
Then how come you don't feel the same way when they do PC ports? PSP ports? Xbox 360 ports?

I think you're trying very hard to dislike the game, and if that's the way you feel, you should sell the game now and forget you ever saw it.
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Amakusa, you don't know if she doesn't feel that way about other ports, and where did Chibi say she didn't like SW3?
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Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:52 am
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Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:02 am
At least you lucked out and held off on buying it (well, more like couldn't afford to buy it XD). I feel as if Koei duped me. Big time.
Then how come you don't feel the same way when they do PC ports? PSP ports? Xbox 360 ports?

I think you're trying very hard to dislike the game, and if that's the way you feel, you should sell the game now and forget you ever saw it.
I think a 360 port follows the same category as PS3 as the systems perform at similar levels, compared with the Wii, which has lower performance specs in comparison.

As for PC ports, well the PC isn't exactly as popular as consoles to the general public. Plus factor in the hardware issue that pops up every now and then where you may or may not meet the required specs depending how old your PC is and the last time you upgraded the hardware. A bit of an alienating factor though it really only affects older PCs that haven't been upgraded. Also pirating. Hell of a lot easier on PC versus consoles. Well maybe not 360, but that thing would still need to be modded.

As for PSP, I don't know. some people just don't care for handhelds. I do, but I have no reason to complain cause I have 2 PSPs. One with OFW and one with CFW. Pretty much no worries for me other than saving cash so I can physically add to my collection.

So those are some possible factors though chibi will still have to explain her opinion on the matter.

Personally the way I deal with Koei's expansions, I don't frigging buy em. Only been getting the main releases. Actually ends up working rather well as Musou Orochi Z and this game have shown.

Only situation I'm considering double dipping for a Koei game is Hokuto Musou since the international version is just that much more improved combat wise.
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Forgive my noobiness but, gods forbid, if Koei in their infinite wisdom decide to not release this in Europe around how much am I looking at for an import?
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Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:27 am
Amakusa, you don't know if she doesn't feel that way about other ports, and where did Chibi say she didn't like SW3?
See how many ports of Warriors Orochi 2 that got thrown around (this is the only comparable example regardless of how you feel about that game). How many people felt the need to buy all those ports, no matter how improved they got? Do you buy the PS3, the PSP, the PC ports?

No, you don't. Unless you're rich or you feel like being a completionist, this doesn't happen. Warriors Orochi Z did a lot to improve WO2, essentially adding new stages and characters and upscaled graphics, much the same as being offered by SW3Z. One would have to be so dissatisfied with WO2 to have consciously traded it in in favor of WOZ (doubly so if they can't read Japanese), and for this game it is no different-- one would have to be so dissatisfied with SW3 that they would trade it in favor of SW3Z.

The improvement level some people expect SW3Z to have over the original is ridiculous. If you don't like the game already the port is unlikely going to change your mind, especially since, unlike what happened with SW1 and its XL counterpart, there are no gameplay modifications being announced.
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Amakusa, you don't know if she doesn't feel that way about other ports, and where did Chibi say she didn't like SW3?
See how many ports of Warriors Orochi 2 that got thrown around (this is the only comparable example regardless of how you feel about that game). How many people felt the need to buy all those ports, no matter how improved they got? Do you buy the PS3, the PSP, the PC ports?

No, you don't. Unless you're rich or you feel like being a completionist, this doesn't happen. Warriors Orochi Z did a lot to improve WO2, essentially adding new stages and characters and upscaled graphics, much the same as being offered by SW3Z. One would have to be so dissatisfied with WO2 to have consciously traded it in in favor of WOZ (doubly so if they can't read Japanese), and for this game it is no different-- one would have to be so dissatisfied with SW3 that they would trade it in favor of SW3Z.

The improvement level some people expect SW3Z to have over the original is ridiculous. If you don't like the game already the port is unlikely going to change your mind, especially since, unlike what happened with SW1 and its XL counterpart, there are no gameplay modifications being announced.
Your comparisons are kinda incomplete.

MOZ was MO1 AND MO2 and added stuff. So Trading from just MO2 would be a BIG upgrade.

Same with SWZ. Its the first game AND an expansion. XL. XL has always had new characters new stages, new modes, 5th weapons. So i think thts plenty to buy.....but for Wii you do gotta have first one
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Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:27 am
Amakusa, you don't know if she doesn't feel that way about other ports, and where did Chibi say she didn't like SW3?
See how many ports of Warriors Orochi 2 that got thrown around (this is the only comparable example regardless of how you feel about that game). How many people felt the need to buy all those ports, no matter how improved they got? Do you buy the PS3, the PSP, the PC ports?

No, you don't. Unless you're rich or you feel like being a completionist, this doesn't happen. Warriors Orochi Z did a lot to improve WO2, essentially adding new stages and characters and upscaled graphics, much the same as being offered by SW3Z. One would have to be so dissatisfied with WO2 to have consciously traded it in in favor of WOZ (doubly so if they can't read Japanese), and for this game it is no different-- one would have to be so dissatisfied with SW3 that they would trade it in favor of SW3Z.

The improvement level some people expect SW3Z to have over the original is ridiculous. If you don't like the game already the port is unlikely going to change your mind, especially since, unlike what happened with SW1 and its XL counterpart, there are no gameplay modifications being announced.
I never said I didn't like the game. I enjoyed it, but it's not like it didn't have any faults to begin with (FMO characters, the complete waste of space that Murasame Castle is). I'm more or less peeved that I bought the game and not even two months later, Koei announces the port (that, had I truly known they were just going to port it, I would have just waited a little longer. That way I could have been done with Sengoku Basara 3 and not have that game try to taint my experience with SW3.)

And no, there aren't that many, if any, gameplay improvements (besides 60 FPS), but the amount of stories and playable characters is enough for me to consider getting it (or, if I so happen to change my mind later on down the road, get SW3XL if it gets localized).

I don't really hate ports. Just on this occasion when I just got the game for myself (9 months late, silly Nintendo of America) and Koei announces the port. It's really just a case of bad timing (and overall impatience on my part).

Had I known, I would have waited and bought the game all at once. Now do you understand what I'm saying?

As for the whole ordeal with WOZ, I'm not sure what to think about that. I have no interest in the PC version (me+PC games= could truly care less). Was interested in the PS3 for the sake of new characters and Dream Stages, but looked at the $70 price tag (conversion + shipping and handling) and said screw that.

I ended up renting it for the PSP and downloaded someone else's savefile just to get the additional dream stages. But, no I didn't spend a single penny on those ports... and in hindsight, I'm rather glad I didn't. Sure, a few of them were fun, but would it have been worth another $70? Hellz to the no.

I'm so behind in SW3, I can consider myself to not have played it at all. As opposed to WO2, where by the time WOZ was announced, I sucked every ounce of enjoyment that the game could possibly offered and therefor became more tedious than fun.

I could very well decide to just keep my Wii version and get XL further down the road, if Nintendo decides to release it overseas (just, please, not another 9 month waiting period?). Or, could end up selling it and starting anew with SW3Z. It could really go either way...
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