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Sengoku Musou 3 Z; Release date confirmed, scans inside
Topic Started: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:17 pm (189,762 Views)
Katatonia
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Koei is going to have to explain that somehow. Like Mitsuhide's age, and Gracia's age. But I think the weirdest one was in SW1, Masamune's 13, and you run into Hidemune(who's his son, right)

But yeah, Mitsuhide begins SW1 as 25, but I think it's sort of "implied" that he ages to at least 55(his Hononji age), I guess, it's very confusing.
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All i want in this game is Kojiro :D

if he comes back along with Musashi...

2011 will be awesome :D
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WynterRayn
Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:07 pm
All i want in this game is Kojiro :D

if he comes back along with Musashi...

2011 will be awesome :D
We have already seen the character selection menu and neither of them are in their respective places, so sadly they're not gonna return (but it would be very cool).
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Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:13 pm
Hmm I wonder if all these "new" characters are available in the beginning (the 7 characters + Gracia, Aya and Masanori). I think they should, since if this gets to EU, I'm so gonna play through Kotaro's story first! :lol:
SW2XL had all playable characters unlocked from the start including free mode only ones. As this is the non-wii version of "XL" then i see no reason why we cant expect the entire playable roster to be also be available from the offset.

No big loss if we do have to unlock them given its the first the PS3 players will have seen of the game but i guess the best sure fire way we will have of knowing this before the games release is if there is any trophies indicating unlocking a certain number of characters etc
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While 3XL will likely have everyone unlocked from the start, Z will likely have the same starters as the original SW3 and maybe one or two of the 10 new-story characters, since at it's core it is a port of the original SW3 and not an expansion.
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I hope everything is NOT unlocked...what fun is it if everything just there....thats like using a cheat. I prefer replay value. Unlockable weapons, items, AND characters
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donthatekongming
Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:29 am
I hope everything is NOT unlocked...what fun is it if everything just there....thats like using a cheat. I prefer replay value. Unlockable weapons, items, AND characters
i think your right. it makes getting the character you want to play as much more rewarding because you actually have to do a little work to get them. ^_^

Still having them all from the start isn't such a bad thing either :whistle:
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:48 am
Okuni flies kinda like Zhao Yun and suprises Motonari at Kizugawa
Ummmm when it says flies in kinda like Zhao Yun it doesnt mean like in that DW7 trailer does it?

I mean is she gonna jump from horse to horse then jump and run along a wall then jump into the air grab a chain then swing around then kick a horse in the face because THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!! :XD
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It would be more likely that she flies with her umbrella.
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Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:27 am
It would be more likely that she flies with her umbrella.
I know but it would be awesome just saying :whistle:
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I am interested in seeing if Okuni follows Motonari for every stage. Knowing how unpredictable she is in the first game, I wonder how sw3xl andz will go. Kotaro seems to be loyal to the hojo in this one but that could be until ujiyasu's death. Looks like Katsuie and Oichi finally are having a relationship in this one. Stories seem to be shaping up great.
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Fuuma
Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:38 pm
WynterRayn
Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:07 pm
All i want in this game is Kojiro :D

if he comes back along with Musashi...

2011 will be awesome :D
We have already seen the character selection menu and neither of them are in their respective places, so sadly they're not gonna return (but it would be very cool).
yes we have seen the character selection menu, but that doesnt mean that theyre not in it, you dont know, they might not have been unlocked yet..

I dont see why they added Gracia and not Kojiro and Musashi..
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Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:45 am
I am interested in seeing if Okuni follows Motonari for every stage. Knowing how unpredictable she is in the first game, I wonder how sw3xl andz will go. Kotaro seems to be loyal to the hojo in this one but that could be until ujiyasu's death. Looks like Katsuie and Oichi finally are having a relationship in this one. Stories seem to be shaping up great.
After Ujiyasu's death, Kotoro says that he's looking after someone for a friend (I dont have the words right...) and it's pretty much outright stated that Ujiyasu is the friend and Kai is the one he's looking out for.

Sooo, it looks like we see a more human side of Kotaro
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donthatekongming
Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:29 am
I hope everything is NOT unlocked...what fun is it if everything just there....thats like using a cheat. I prefer replay value. Unlockable weapons, items, AND characters
Unlocking stuff is a dumb way to falsely expand a game's life. Why should I have to play through the game with characters I don't want to use in order to use character that I do? It's not "more rewarding" or anything, it's just frustrating and annoying.
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Will SM3Z have everything from SM3?
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AdventGreatness
Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:03 pm
Will SM3Z have everything from SM3?
I think it has everything except Murasame mode and I think it has challenge mode, but I'm not sure on that last part :)

I prefer to unlock characters, I find it more enjoyable having to unlock them than just having them all from the start. :)
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Yup, brings more challenge. Also, maybe it should be unlocking characters with their meanings to other characters, like

Mitsuhide unlocks Motochika
Magoichi unlocks Masamune
Tadakatsu unlocks Ina/Ieyasu
Nobunaga unlocks Nohime or Ranmaru

etc..
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Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:23 pm
donthatekongming
Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:29 am
I hope everything is NOT unlocked...what fun is it if everything just there....thats like using a cheat. I prefer replay value. Unlockable weapons, items, AND characters
Unlocking stuff is a dumb way to falsely expand a game's life. Why should I have to play through the game with characters I don't want to use in order to use character that I do? It's not "more rewarding" or anything, it's just frustrating and annoying.
Maybe cuz some people want a challenge? And feel rewarded when you DO unlock your fav guy...

I LIKE the challenge of unlocking the 4th weapons too. But I suppose you just want all the weapons unlocked as well? Maybe everyone maxed out too for you? How is any of that fun?
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donthatekongming
Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:05 am
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Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:23 pm
donthatekongming
Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:29 am
I hope everything is NOT unlocked...what fun is it if everything just there....thats like using a cheat. I prefer replay value. Unlockable weapons, items, AND characters
Unlocking stuff is a dumb way to falsely expand a game's life. Why should I have to play through the game with characters I don't want to use in order to use character that I do? It's not "more rewarding" or anything, it's just frustrating and annoying.
Maybe cuz some people want a challenge? And feel rewarded when you DO unlock your fav guy...

I LIKE the challenge of unlocking the 4th weapons too. But I suppose you just want all the weapons unlocked as well? Maybe everyone maxed out too for you? How is any of that fun?
But unlocking characters in SW3 was pathetically easy. Just had to save up gold... or rice, or whatever.

Hardly 'challenging'. And honestly, I like it that way. No more having to play characters I can't freakin' stand just to get to the characters I like. In order to get Masamune, I had to play Nobunaga, Mitsuhide AND Magoichi? Screw that noise. Nobunaga and Magoichi, fine, but screw Mitsuhide.

Unlocking characters shouldn't be a challenge, unless they're bonus characters. Now, unlocking ultimate weapons and items? That's something I wouldn't mind doing.
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I'd like a different way to unlock the weapons, like by the time you're able to unlock the weapons, you're done the story. Then what happens?

Do like Basara and have different paths, that would be nice.
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Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:05 am
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Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:23 pm
donthatekongming
Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:29 am
I hope everything is NOT unlocked...what fun is it if everything just there....thats like using a cheat. I prefer replay value. Unlockable weapons, items, AND characters
Unlocking stuff is a dumb way to falsely expand a game's life. Why should I have to play through the game with characters I don't want to use in order to use character that I do? It's not "more rewarding" or anything, it's just frustrating and annoying.
Maybe cuz some people want a challenge? And feel rewarded when you DO unlock your fav guy...

I LIKE the challenge of unlocking the 4th weapons too. But I suppose you just want all the weapons unlocked as well? Maybe everyone maxed out too for you? How is any of that fun?
It's not "challenging" or "rewarding." It's a huge pain in the ass. Again tell me what benefit there actually is from having to unlock 3/4 of the roster using characters that you probably don't want to use? I don't really like Ieyasu or Tadakatsu so why should I be forced to play through the game as them just to get Ina? Or be forced to play as Kanetsugu just to play as Kenshin?

Having a few unlockable characters is fine but it should be characters that are, essentially, bonuses. If they decided to throw in Lu Bu or something as a bonus character, that's the type of character that should be made unlockable not the entire cast of normal characters.

Locking nearly the entire main roster away from the start and giving the player less options from the get go is just dumb and has been for a long time and not just in Warriors games. I hate having to deal with it in fighting games too.

Wanting to have a large variety of characters available to you from the outset really isn't the same thing as wanting the game put on Dumb Baby Mode or something. If I want to use a character's most powerful weapon and have them be powerful, yeah I should have to work at it. If I just want to use that character from the outset, however, and they're a regular part of the main cast and not a bonus/extra character then I should be able to.
Edited by SubenW, Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:33 am.
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do you think they can add stages from W.O.2 only the new ones like Battle of Yamatai, Itsukushima, and Wuhang Mountains. if so That would be awesome they wouldn't have to be incorporated into anyone's story they could just be free mode bonus stages. :2up:
Edited by Dark Fang, Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:44 am.
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SW3's "choose who you unlock" idea was a fantastic idea, imo. I didn't have to play through characters I didn't like to unlock characters I did.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:33 am
I got a huge question as it's been in and out my head and I want it to finally be answered, should Onimusha be included cause I swear when I saw Nobonuga Oda it was the first thing that came to my mind. Now I know more about DW series more than SW, so bare with me and help a brotha out ha ha ha.
I've always thought Akechi Hidemitsu should be added because that is Sammanosuke, but what's that without Yagyu Jubei and Ekei Ankokuji? :cool:
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They should add the Yagyu's as playable characters. they're a small clan, but i believe Munenori was a general and retainer for Ieyasu just like Honda' and his sword skills were said to be a mach for even Musashi. they all played vital roles.
Edited by Gehenna Dominatus Nobunaga, Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:33 am.
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