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Sengoku Musou 3 Z; Release date confirmed, scans inside
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AdventGreatness
Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:32 am
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:33 am
I got a huge question as it's been in and out my head and I want it to finally be answered, should Onimusha be included cause I swear when I saw Nobonuga Oda it was the first thing that came to my mind. Now I know more about DW series more than SW, so bare with me and help a brotha out ha ha ha.
I've always thought Akechi Hidemitsu should be added because that is Sammanosuke, but what's that without Yagyu Jubei and Ekei Ankokuji? :cool:
Hidemitsu is a nobody and only achieved notoriety because of Onimusha. Kessen 3 even poked fun at him over it.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:33 am
I got a huge question as it's been in and out my head and I want it to finally be answered, should Onimusha be included cause I swear when I saw Nobonuga Oda it was the first thing that came to my mind. Now I know more about DW series more than SW, so bare with me and help a brotha out ha ha ha.
I've always thought Akechi Hidemitsu should be added because that is Sammanosuke, but what's that without Yagyu Jubei and Ekei Ankokuji? :cool:
Hidemitsu is a nobody and only achieved notoriety because of Onimusha. Kessen 3 even poked fun at him over it.
When exactly in Kessen 3? All I remember is that Nobunaga beat him in a duel.
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Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:33 am
I got a huge question as it's been in and out my head and I want it to finally be answered, should Onimusha be included cause I swear when I saw Nobonuga Oda it was the first thing that came to my mind. Now I know more about DW series more than SW, so bare with me and help a brotha out ha ha ha.
I've always thought Akechi Hidemitsu should be added because that is Sammanosuke, but what's that without Yagyu Jubei and Ekei Ankokuji? :cool:
Hidemitsu is a nobody and only achieved notoriety because of Onimusha. Kessen 3 even poked fun at him over it.
^this

There's 101 people to add over Hidemitsu, the Akechi need nobody in this series, ever. Mitsuhide chums around Nobunaga, then branches off for one battle, theres no need to add an officer for him, even officers that carry over from his army, are near pointless adds.
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Exactly who IS Hidematsu? I only get so far in Onimusha 3 before I lost my copy, so I'm not familiar with the game
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Akechi Hidemitsu is Mitsuhide's nephew(and then adopted son I believe) who was one of the leaders in Mitsuhide's army. After Mitsuhide's death, he made a relatively legendary horseride across(around?) a lake to get back to Mitsuhide's castle, killed their entire family, and then committed suicide.

BTW Saito Toshimitsu would be a way better add for an Akechi follower.
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Reverie
Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:33 am
I got a huge question as it's been in and out my head and I want it to finally be answered, should Onimusha be included cause I swear when I saw Nobonuga Oda it was the first thing that came to my mind. Now I know more about DW series more than SW, so bare with me and help a brotha out ha ha ha.
I've always thought Akechi Hidemitsu should be added because that is Sammanosuke, but what's that without Yagyu Jubei and Ekei Ankokuji? :cool:
Hidemitsu is a nobody and only achieved notoriety because of Onimusha. Kessen 3 even poked fun at him over it.
When exactly in Kessen 3? All I remember is that Nobunaga beat him in a duel.
That was the same scene.

When you played Kessen 3 up to that point that's about the only time outside of him being the mission objective that even acknowledges he exists, and they make it a point to append the 'Samanosuke' name to him every time.

Toshimitsu Saito was the more visible Akechi retainer and had a good chunk of a story role to boot (even a cutscene death as goofy as it was).
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Akechi Hidemitsu is Mitsuhide's nephew(and then adopted son I believe) who was one of the leaders in Mitsuhide's army. After Mitsuhide's death, he made a relatively legendary horseride across(around?) a lake to get back to Mitsuhide's castle, killed their entire family, and then committed suicide.

BTW Saito Toshimitsu would be a way better add for an Akechi follower.
I don't think Mitsuhide needs anymore followers, we already have Motochika and Gracia (though neither of those are proper retainers, but whatever).

Since Mitsuhide is on his own only at Honnouji and Yamazaki, it doesn't really matter if there is someone on his side (if you get my point).
Edited by Fūma, Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:31 am.
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Akechi Hidemitsu is Mitsuhide's nephew(and then adopted son I believe) who was one of the leaders in Mitsuhide's army. After Mitsuhide's death, he made a relatively legendary horseride across(around?) a lake to get back to Mitsuhide's castle, killed their entire family, and then committed suicide.

BTW Saito Toshimitsu would be a way better add for an Akechi follower.
I don't think Mitsuhide needs anymore followers, we already have Motochika and Gracia (though neither of those are proper retainers, but whatever).

Since Mitsuhide is on his own only at Honnouji and Yamazaki, it doesn't really matter if there is someone on his side (if you get my point).
UNLESS! :sly: They decide to somehow merge the two Akechi followers and Saito Toshimitsu to form a fictional character to represent all of them! I know Akechi Hidemitsu but there was another Akechi as well, its not Mitsuhide who I'm talking about. I mean they merged Zhang Fei's two daughters to make Xing Cai, so they could do they same thing right? :cool:
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Exactly who IS Hidematsu? I only get so far in Onimusha 3 before I lost my copy, so I'm not familiar with the game
There is two references to Akechi Hidemitsu one is wikipedia and the other is Samurai Archives SamuraiWiki which use to be Samurai Archives. Both reference give different explantion on who his father was and his relationship to Mitsuhide. But, for the most part I would put my trust into the information for Samurai Archives SamuraiWiki since the information to edit is restricted to the moderators of that site and in Wikipedia anyone can edit the information. Also, from my independant research on the matter from hard copy information not from the internet. But you have decided for your self which is the best.

http://wiki.samurai-archives.com/index.php?title=Akechi_Hidemitsu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akechi_Hidemitsu
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I want to see Sorin Otomo in a next installment. He could be a wise, and peaceloving man, only fighting because he has to stay alive, constantly being attacked by the Mori and Shimazu.

And his interactions with a younger Ginchiyo and Muneshige.

And the return of Shikoku, and Ise-Nagashima
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Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:11 am
I want to see Sorin Otomo in a next installment. He could be a wise, and peaceloving man, only fighting because he has to stay alive, constantly being attacked by the Mori and Shimazu.

And his interactions with a younger Ginchiyo and Muneshige.

And the return of Shikoku, and Ise-Nagashima
But Sorin wasn't wise, nor was he peace-loving. In fact he was pretty far from both, looking at his track record. Out of the "Three Kingdoms of Kyushu" he was certainly the most incompetent of the three(Shimazu, Otomo and Ryuzoji.)

The reason the Otomo got trashed so badly is because he attacked the Shimazu and did a terrible job of it. Yoshihisa beat him so badly that he offered Sorin a ceasefire afterward, simply because he knew the Otomo was no longer any threat and so he could concentrate on the more dangerous opponent: Ryuzoji Takanobu.

Sorin, if added, should be a sort of Machiavellian villain: always plotting and planning how to create his "paradise"(historically a "Christian paradise" but I doubt Koei would go into the religious part of it) but being foiled either by Yoshihiro kicking his ass or Ginchiyo/Muneshige restraining him from doing something really dumb.
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Oh dear...my thought of Otomo have been wrong...sorry. I'm basing him on that Lord of Darkness game, where he's strong, and very smart..well, to an extent.

None the less, I suppose we could use another jackass character, huh?
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Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:06 am
Akechi Hidemitsu is Mitsuhide's nephew(and then adopted son I believe) who was one of the leaders in Mitsuhide's army. After Mitsuhide's death, he made a relatively legendary horseride across(around?) a lake to get back to Mitsuhide's castle, killed their entire family, and then committed suicide.

BTW Saito Toshimitsu would be a way better add for an Akechi follower.
Wait......so after Mitsuhide died...he killed his entire family? That would make for a neat despair event horizon, I guess.... @_@
Was this like a mercy kill, so they wouldn't be tortured or something? That's the only reasoning I can think of....

Also, I really dislike Motochika's role as Mitsuhide's butt buddy in this game, and wouldn't mind at all if someone else took his place. But I think there are people who could be added in favor of an Akechi retainer.
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Package shots for Sengoku Musou 3 Z and Moushouden



http://viploader.net/ippan/src/vlippan176470.jpg

http://up3.viploader.net/ippan/src/vlippan176469.jpg
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Thanks super for the images. I will have to say that the Wii cover looks more lively than the Ps3 one. Kind of sad but oh well. Still waiting on any info for if theres any english release.
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Lmao, yeah, the Wii cover does look more lively.

Well the covers at least confirm one thing (unless they decided to keep it really under lock and key), no Musashi and Kojiro. Not a big loss considering the 10 new stories and two promoted UNPC's.
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Hooray no Musashi or Kojiro. They can always come back later. And by later I mean after the likes of Yagyu Sekishusai, Kamiizumi Nobutsuna and/or Yagyu Munenori are added. :sly:
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The Wii cover looks badass ^^ I can't wait to buy it once we hear news of a western release.
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I knew the wii version would look better, it looks so cool! :woot:
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Both covers are very good. ^_^
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Hooray no Musashi or Kojiro. They can always come back later. And by later I mean after the likes of Yagyu Sekishusai, Kamiizumi Nobutsuna and/or Yagyu Munenori are added. :sly:
this so much
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Hooray no Musashi or Kojiro. They can always come back later. And by later I mean after the likes of Yagyu Sekishusai, Kamiizumi Nobutsuna and/or Yagyu Munenori are added. :sly:
this so much
Hmm..? I've never even heard of those guys.... :unsure: Are you sure they're would be important to the series? I've never seen any of those in a single battle through all stages in the series. How about add someone like Mototada Torii before adding those? :shifty:

EDIT: Sorry, after having done some research on those characters you mentioned it seems they had importance after all :XD
Edited by Fūma, Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:24 pm.
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Yaqyu Sekishusai and Kamiizumi Nobutsuna were the two best samurai bodyguards you could get in SW2, and I'm pretty sure Nobutsuna appears at Kawagoe or Kanto Invasion in SW3. Sekishusai doesn't get to show up yet because Koei hasn't included any of the battles with the Miyoshi/Matsunaga, whom he served until he joined Ieyasu. Yagyu Munenori shows up several times throughout SW2 and SW3.
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Does anymone know if there will be news this week?


Wii cover really does out do the PS3 one!
but im still loyal to SW3Z :)
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Bad news guys....I just spoke to Chin at Koei and he said they DONT plan on releasing a english version of this game....

They are focusing on Troy, and DW7, and Trinity.....sad day
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