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| Kevin15 | Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:54 am Post #1851 |
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Thanks But was sanada one of the strongest warriors of that time? Mod Edit: Triple posting = BAD. Edited by SRS, Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:17 am.
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| FKA | Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:11 am Post #1852 |
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You know spamming repeated posts like that instead of editing your original post could result in some warnings and some pissed users.... including myself -.- LOL anyways I read somewhere that he was..... maybe from the archives file in SW XL or somewhere on the net but yeah....... Then again it's said that Tadakatsu didn't even have a scratch on him in any battle he participated in (that must be a lie but whatever, anything to keep the public's interest haha ), so he would be the strongest in all of the Sengoku era. This is by the way based on brawn, not intellect and other tidbits like that. Something tells me Kenshin would be the winner in that department..... |
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| Katatonia | Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:47 am Post #1853 |
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I'd imagine they'd had to have met, seeing that Ina was married into the Sanada family. Makes me think though, why Nobuyuki and not Yukimura? Was Yukimura already married-but then again, that never stopped anyone then-or was it that Yuki was far too young to be wed? |
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| Mr. Kamikaze | Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:40 am Post #1854 |
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Isn't is usually customary to marry off your oldest child? Nobuyuki being older (and therefore, probably the heir to the Sanada (?) ), Masayuki selected him to marry Ina (or maybe Yukimura was probably too young, not too sure of the time frame). |
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| rrps700 | Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:17 pm Post #1855 |
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I am going to get an import my ps3s not from (europe anyway it can play ps2 games) so an import would be ok
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| Raio | Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:52 pm Post #1856 |
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I Don't see why they don't take a hint from the Dynasty Warriors 7 sales and just localize Z because it should sell like DW7 in my opinion let me know if you agree? |
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| Amakusa | Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:05 am Post #1857 |
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I don't claim to be an expert on the matter, but in general the older children get married off first. Ieyasu adopted Ina specifically to marry her off to the Sanada family so it was unlikely he had any more biological children left to marry off at the time, while Masayuki hadn't entered into any marriage alliances until then. |
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| Musashi_of_Legend | Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:28 am Post #1858 |
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I don't think so...SW2 on Wii only sold like 30,000 units in NA. So localizing SW3Z for NA almost seems like a waste of time. That's probably the conclusion KOEI made for Warriors:LoT on XBox 360 here in NA.... Plus localizing for NA and/or EU, means localizing (or at least implemented subtitles) for ALOT of languages. There's alot of work to be done. So really, KOEI will try to maximize profit and I don't think they make much in NA....lol |
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| Yuqi | Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:31 pm Post #1859 |
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I think SW has more to exploit story wise then DW. The sengoku period was not that long ago at all,in comparision. I hope they bring it,but if not I'm happy with DWG3 Edited by Yuqi, Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:34 pm.
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| Paragon of Light | Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:47 pm Post #1860 |
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It's a big loss. It would be a sham if this didn;t make it over but I've got dw7 to entertain and I would like a Clan mode orsomething like that. |
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| Meliel | Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:52 pm Post #1861 |
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I don't think SW needs kingdoms or factions. They've got a more flexible way of developing the stories, especially since Sengoku period has samurai, ninja's, priestesses (though DW does too), monks, sumo, ect ect. I think more could be done to SW but not in the same way as DW. Here's what I developed in my freetime. (Which I don't really have...lol) 1. Moveset fails (to add to the challenge. Of course they can be avoided but to make things realistic/funny, they could somehow impact characters performance. Ex: Nene not catching her blades when using her C2. ) 2. Special moves involving other characters. 3. Everyone could have a specific summons (animal wise and some could just summon another character). 4. Bring back the musou effects from SW2. They were awesome. 5. Castle infiltrations being Ninja's only. However, there are some characters that could infiltrate too I suppose. Like Okuni and Hanbei maybe. 6. Korean campaign. (Let's get some out of country events here Koei. There's a lot of foreign activity that needs to be acknowledged). 7. Every mission shouldn't be mindless hacking on battlefields. In fact, that should be something that's done by certain people like Yukimura, Keiji, Kai, ect. Other characters could do so in Free Mode though. But for story mode, maybe not. 8. Bring back alternate endings... 9. Bring back skill system... 10. More elements. (I'd like to see Water, Earth, Light, and maybe Poison) 11. One on one fights. 12. Alternate costumes (depending on the battle). Seriously. What's wrong with Yukimura looking rough and disheveled during Osaka Castle? 13. More unlockable missions. 14. Stages could have seasonal changes. And night and day please. 15. Clothing customizations. Personally, I'd like to see they pull like Namco did with Tekken. Tekken has it so Feng Wei can be customized to look like Guan Yu. Why not customize Gracia to look like Alisa? (They look alike anyway. XD ) 16. More characters that will REALLY help the storyline. I want to see Sorin Otomo, Miyorinni Yoshioka, Tokugawa generals, and maybe even Yodo-dono, ect. 17. More flexible gaming. Like having to use the environment and what not to perform specific tasks. I have more stuff but I'll stop here. Edited by Meliel, Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:53 pm.
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| Fūma | Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:09 pm Post #1862 |
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^You are really demanding too much. Also some of your points are just "bring back...". That's not what the series needs. What it needs is to go forward and have more revamped feeling to it. The difference between SW2 and SW3 is very minor gameplay and story-wise (everyone has same moves except Oichi and stories are in exact same format as SW2 though dream stages are absent). I think individual stories would suck since there are now too many characters. With over 40 it won't really work. Take notes from DW7 and at least give a try to faction story mode. |
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| Raiko Z | Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:44 pm Post #1863 |
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Yeah, you're right. Now we got too many characters in Story Mode while some of them just like copy of the other one. It's good to have different moves though, but honestly the Story mode is just kinda boring while we playing a character that has the same stages as the other character we've already done. |
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| Fūma | Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:39 pm Post #1864 |
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Yes, that's why I praise faction story over individual story since it eliminates one of the game's main problems: Playing same stages over and over again. |
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| Meliel | Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:52 am Post #1865 |
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Ahem, they're suggestions, sir. I'm not demanding at all. I'm suggesting. By all means, I'm completely aware that effects and what not from the past are more likely not to come back but I'm suggesting that Koei could bring them back but change them to some extent. I'm not saying everyone should get their same old effects from SW2, I'm saying they should HAVE effects but different ones. I only have 3 "bring back" suggestions so Idk how that's 'some'. More a few. The reason why I say bring in more important characters IS to change up the story's a bit. SW is NOT DW. They can't have 'factions' and pull it off like DW can. SW has too many loopholes and loyalties are constantly changing. Doesn't make sense to have all those factions with all that confusion. I'd hate to see SW become another DW clone. Sorry, just my opinion. They need/deserve to be different. DW can have factions, the weapon-swapping ability and such but SW needs something else. Koei's always being dumped on for the similarities in all their games. I'd like them to branch out and make these two different to avoid more of those claims.
The story mode can easily be fixed. That was the point of my suggesting ninja's have specific missions of their own and such. To make the stories different. Korean campaigns were also apart of that suggestion. Again, I'd hate to see SW and DW be clones of each other again. If Koei does do the 'factions' for SW then I hope it's different to some extent. Maybe pair people off into groups of five or something idk. I don't work for them. |
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| MitsunariWrath | Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:44 pm Post #1866 |
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Well this WOULD be true if they were starting from scratch. But the Wii version already has 95% of the subtitles we need. So why not just cut and paste from that? ALmost no work and they can make money off of it |
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| Paulo_PSX | Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:34 pm Post #1867 |
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I agree with you. SW3Z was released in Japan after more thant 1 year and sold more units on the PlayStation 3. I believe that if SW3Z was localized, could sell more than the Wii version in americas and europe. SW and DW are games that sell more in the HD platarfoms. It was the same with Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes. Im my opinion it was a big mistake release on Wii. I have all SW games on my PlayStation 2. I bought PS3 e X360 e KOEI will not localized SW3Z. So sad!!! |
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| ZhugeJebus | Fri Apr 22, 2011 8:38 pm Post #1868 |
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Its been awhile, I might have forgotten names* ie copout The OCD freak in me has wanted the character wheel to show closer relationships (Nobunaga next to Noh and Ranmaru). I would agree with by region sorting. North, Kanto, Central, Shikoku, Chugoku, Kyushu and Vagrants (swordsmen, Okuni, & Goemon). SW:SoW (PSP) had that somewhat. Oda then East and West (it was more broadly organized). If they add a new Shimazu, he should be near Yoshihiro... OCD The story could go the route of 7, but keep it region based switching clans. So you might play half of Kawanikajima as one side and switch as the battle turns in favor of the enemy. The unifier story would however take central stage no matter what. It is unavoidable. I want SW3Z to be localized, but perhaps Koei should just add subtitle and menu language options to all their future titles. |
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| Barnzi88 | Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:28 pm Post #1869 |
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It's taking so long to hear any news of localization, it's all starting to look pretty grim. I've a feeling we're not going to see either game released...and the only 'expansion' we'll have is the SW Chronicles (which I have). |
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| Katatonia | Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:33 pm Post #1870 |
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Some climate change in the stages, say like it could snow during a castle siege, and you can't get back home, so you do a bonus stage to stay live? Or if it gets too hot, both armies are affected. Typhoons and tsunamis in the middle of the battles? The ability like in Empires to have a member of your army defend you, or choose who they can fight could work also. ...I'm in the wrong topic, aren't I?
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| SAMURAIWARRIOR 2010 | Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:26 am Post #1871 |
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it's to bad SW3Z for PS3 is not coming out for north America will I hope they change there minds for now I stick with DW7
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| Meeks | Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:22 pm Post #1872 |
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man only reason why I haven't played SW3 because it was for the wii 8( since I don't own the wii. so when I heard of SW3Z it made my day! cuz I could have the chance to play it, I really think it would sell much more than it did with the Wii. 8( has a petition been filled? I know it probably won't do much ..but we can try >3< |
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| Paulo_PSX | Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:58 pm Post #1873 |
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This release of DW Gundam 3 makes me a little happy, because KOEI waited 4 months to inform us the release date of the game on west. SW3Z is a recently launched. Now im waiting for Samurai Warriors 3Z!!!
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| Meliel | Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:02 am Post #1874 |
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LOl No you're not in the wrong topic. I want climate changes too. I don't know if I stated this earlier but I'd love to see interactive environments. Like trees collapsing on top of people and solider's creating blockades around the battlefield. (Kind of funny really. /smashed XD ) I love the idea of bonus stages for survival. I also would like to have the option of having a personal sidekick (besides the Bodygaurds and what not) that can either be there to help fight, provide recovery and sometimes even give you commands and directions so that you can perform specific actions appropriately. (Like if someone played with Hideyoshi, he/she could bring Nene (commands), Mitsunari (recovery), Masanori (helps fight), and Kiyomasa (helps fight). Idk, just some ideas... I sure can ramble...
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| Katatonia | Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:35 am Post #1875 |
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^Actually, yes, those are good ideas! That way everyone contributes and its not just mindless AI. Also, how about specific musou attacks based on character relationships ie: Noh and Nobunaga, Tadakatsu/Ina, Hideyoshi/Nene? |
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it's to bad SW3Z for PS3 is not coming out for north America will I hope they change there minds for now I stick with DW7
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