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Battle of Anegawa; Any information is welcome
Topic Started: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:27 am (1,258 Views)
hissing black cat
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Like it says, anything on the battle is welcome. I'm especially looking for information on what led to the battle.
But info on the actual course of the battle and the aftermath are also much appreciated.
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then what I right is the right info for you.
http://sengoku-period.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Anegawa

It is pretty much reliable since I didn't use wikipedea as my source but rather Stevie's books.
Hope this could help you :/
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Asakura Yoshikage was not, I repeat, not the commander at Anegawa. Asakura Kagetake was. Yoshikage was of frail health and poor constitution so he was not able to campaign with the army, this role was delegated first to the famous Asakura Soteki, then later the likes of Asakura Kagetaka and his son Asakura Kagetake, and also at times Asakura Kageakira.

Kagetake was also the commander of the retaliatory assault after Anegawa that killed Mori Yoshinari and Oda Nobuharu.
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hissing black cat
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Thankx! That's a real help, from both of you!
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Seraphil
Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:08 am
Asakura Yoshikage was not, I repeat, not the commander at Anegawa. Asakura Kagetake was. Yoshikage was of frail health and poor constitution so he was not able to campaign with the army, this role was delegated first to the famous Asakura Soteki, then later the likes of Asakura Kagetaka and his son Asakura Kagetake, and also at times Asakura Kageakira.

Kagetake was also the commander of the retaliatory assault after Anegawa that killed Mori Yoshinari and Oda Nobuharu.
wow that wasn't on Stevie's and Samurai's Archives info :huh:

@hissing cat: your very welcome :)
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Some of Turnbull's books are half-assed junk. His new book on Hideyoshi is an example.
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Keiki
Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:04 pm
Some of Turnbull's books are half-assed junk. His new book on Hideyoshi is an example.
Yea I know I spotted plenty already :kurokan:
what was the name of the battle, the one after Anegawa that killed got Mori Yoshinari killed?
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Usayama. Nobunaga flipped after that.
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Keiki
Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:14 pm
Usayama. Nobunaga flipped after that.
Ah yes now I remember. How could I have forgot about the battle of mount.Usa -.-''
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Hmm, are his books really unreliable? That would be a problem 'cause any books I found in the library with any information on Anegawa are written by him.
I just went through them and in 2 of them he does say that Asakura Kagetaka is the commander-in-chief but he doesn't say why.

Also I have another question. Is it Azai or Asai or doesn't that matter?

And do you know if the story about Makara Jurozaemon is reliable?
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The 1570 Battle of Anegawa (姉川の戦い Anegawa no Tatakai?) came as a reaction to Oda Nobunaga's sieges of the castles of Odani and Yokoyama, which belonged to the Azai and Asakura clans. It was also referred to as the Battle of Nomura (野村合戦 Nomura Kassen) by the Oda and Azai clans and the Battle of Mitamura (三田村合戦 Mitamura Kassen) by the Asakura clan.
As warriors sallied forth from the castles, the battle turned into a melee fought in the middle of the shallow river. For a time, Nobunaga's forces fought the Azai, while the Tokugawa warriors fought the Asakura a short distance upstream.
After the Tokugawa forces finished off the Asakura, they turned and hit the Azai right flank. Inaba Ittetsu, who had been held in reserve, then came forward and hit the Azai left flank. Many of the besiegers of Yokoyama even left their task to aid in the battle. The Azai and Asakura forces were soon defeated.
It is perhaps interesting to note that Nobunaga used 500 arquebusiers in this battle. He was famous for his strategic use of firearms but would find himself on the opposite end of skilled arquebus tactics in his siege of Ishiyama Honganji that year.
Meanwhile, no reliable source exists to reconstruct the battle. The battle of Anegawa is vividly presented in the books compiled in the middle or the end of the Edo period. Many of the stories are pure fiction. The only valuable source is the Shinchokoki, describing it very briefly without any notes concerning tactics or details of the battle.
The exact number of the casualties in this battle is unknown. However, the Shinchokoki mentions 1,100 Samurai from Asakura clan being killed in battle. An army of this period had at least several times more non-samurai Ashigarus than the samurai, so it would be reasonable to assume at least several thousand men were killed.
According to A.L. Sadler in The Life of Shogun Tokugawa Ieyasu there were 3,170 heads collected by the Oda camp. A good portion were taken by Mikawa men, the Tokugawa force. The Mikawa Fudoki gives a very real picture of the battle: The retainers fighting in groups and the decapitation of soldiers in the confused mingling of armies among the clouds of smoke and dust.
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