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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,989 Views)
EastRed Dragon
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:12 am
Of all the Shu characters to make, why Liu Chan? I expected someone more badass. maybe Jian Yong? Liao Hua? Xu Shu?

Koei, I am disappoint...
Simply because he is essential to the story.
Several NPC's in past games have been important. Liu Chan has never needed to be made grand commander, there's always been a subsititute.

I will admit that he has great potential in a storyline, but I can't see him having any badass (pardon my language) moveset like ALL the other characters....even Dong Zhuo...
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TrevorxTravesty
Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
This is a very random question, but...Isn't there anyone on this forum who is actually from Japan & speaks fluent Japanese?

I don't think I've met anyone yet.
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You're not Japanese, are you? I thought you lived in northern California, no?

I saw your vid on YouTube (the one where you sang that karaoke song) and I thought you were Hispanic.

:ot:

Anywho..I personally love Liu Chan's design! That fur coat is quite luxurious, too! I can't wait to see what other colors he'll have for his alternate costumes. Xiao Qiao, too. That orange just... <_<
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Wow you know I can see that happening. Switch out Ning for Zhou Yu and things would be all good. Especially since Chi Bi maybe a two part battle. Zhou Yu's part could be extended by adding in the extra detail of Xiao running off.

Yay you liked my idea :D and yeah it would make more sense if Zhou Yu went apeshizz 'dw 5 opening style' against the wei fleet.

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No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.

...Well you provide a pretty good argument there. :2up:
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Why are people dissing liu chan anyways??? He's the perfect guy to be with xing cai in terms of balancing out the relationship and he doesn't look european or yoshimoto looking!!!! I like the fur on the coat anyways :blush:
No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.
I know that there's a lot of bias here towards him, but I feel like it's just a bit much. Yeah he was a bad ruler in history, but I don't get why that causes some people to feel like he doesn't belong in this game (for whatever reason, even though he was incredibly relevant to the late-era story).

Seraphil
 
TrevorxTravesty
Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
This is a very random question, but...Isn't there anyone on this forum who is actually from Japan & speaks fluent Japanese?

I don't think I've met anyone yet.
:uh:
At least a quarter of all the posts I see you make are spam, and that's odd given you're a mod.
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:04 am
Why are people dissing liu chan anyways??? He's the perfect guy to be with xing cai in terms of balancing out the relationship and he doesn't look european or yoshimoto looking!!!! I like the fur on the coat anyways :blush:
No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.
I know that there's a lot of bias here towards him, but I feel like it's just a bit much. Yeah he was a bad ruler in history, but I don't get why that causes some people to feel like he doesn't belong in this game (for whatever reason, even though he was incredibly relevant to the late-era story).

Seraphil
 
TrevorxTravesty
Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
This is a very random question, but...Isn't there anyone on this forum who is actually from Japan & speaks fluent Japanese?

I don't think I've met anyone yet.
:uh:
At least a quarter of all the posts I see you make are spam, and that's odd given you're a mod.
You didn't know? I think mods get special privileges :sly: j/k

And I also don't think all this hate towards Liu Chan is really necessary, either. You guys act like he personally raped your mothers & sisters or something (Actually, that'd be Dong Zhuo ^_~). He's in the game because he simply needed to be in to further complete the story.
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:26 am.
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
yea... Xing Cai and Liu Chan will make a good couple!

Combine the dead rabbit on her head with his fur pimp suit... instant win :D

This isn't fashion design weekly here.

I will admit that while Guan Ping and Xing Cai wasn't historically accurate (With him historically being decades older than her and all), but I liked it. They're probably still gonna with the "Guan Ping's dead, so I'll rebound and marry Liu Chan" thing again.
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Xing Cai and Guan Ping will probably be friends, nothing more. :mellow:
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:04 am
Why are people dissing liu chan anyways??? He's the perfect guy to be with xing cai in terms of balancing out the relationship and he doesn't look european or yoshimoto looking!!!! I like the fur on the coat anyways :blush:
No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.
I know that there's a lot of bias here towards him, but I feel like it's just a bit much. Yeah he was a bad ruler in history, but I don't get why that causes some people to feel like he doesn't belong in this game (for whatever reason, even though he was incredibly relevant to the late-era story).

Honestly, I think it's just ROTK bias (Not historical bias since I haven't come across one historical account saying that Liu Chan sucked) that's the basis. While some might say it's because he never fought once, the same can be said for some of the others on this roster.
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:04 am
Why are people dissing liu chan anyways??? He's the perfect guy to be with xing cai in terms of balancing out the relationship and he doesn't look european or yoshimoto looking!!!! I like the fur on the coat anyways :blush:
No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.
I know that there's a lot of bias here towards him, but I feel like it's just a bit much. Yeah he was a bad ruler in history, but I don't get why that causes some people to feel like he doesn't belong in this game (for whatever reason, even though he was incredibly relevant to the late-era story).

Seraphil
 
TrevorxTravesty
Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
This is a very random question, but...Isn't there anyone on this forum who is actually from Japan & speaks fluent Japanese?

I don't think I've met anyone yet.
:uh:
At least a quarter of all the posts I see you make are spam, and that's odd given you're a mod.
You didn't know? I think mods get special privileges :sly: j/k

And I also don't think all this hate towards Liu Chan is really necessary, either. You guys act like he personally raped your mother & sisters or something. He's in the game because he simply needed to be in to further complete the story.
Must be nice.

I personally think he's a great add, given Liu Bei is the only ruler to not have a son in the game, and especially now that the timeline is extended pretty far, he was necessary. I'd like to see how they portray him and his personality; I don't doubt he'll be incompetent. Curious to see how they use Xing Cai with him.
Edited by Flyentology, Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:28 am.
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:04 am
Why are people dissing liu chan anyways??? He's the perfect guy to be with xing cai in terms of balancing out the relationship and he doesn't look european or yoshimoto looking!!!! I like the fur on the coat anyways :blush:
No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.
I know that there's a lot of bias here towards him, but I feel like it's just a bit much. Yeah he was a bad ruler in history, but I don't get why that causes some people to feel like he doesn't belong in this game (for whatever reason, even though he was incredibly relevant to the late-era story).

Honestly, I think it's just ROTK bias (Not historical bias since I haven't come across one historical account saying that Liu Chan sucked) that's the basis. While some might say it's because he never fought once, the same can be said for some of the others on this roster.
It can be said for almost every single girl character on the roster, and yet people will still praise them for no historical accomplishments other than looking pretty.

Liu Chan made his mark on the Three Kingdoms era history, and maybe Koei will show his downfall and fall from grace. Afterall, he looks pretty young in the game, and the youth are usually portrayed as naive.
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:29 am.
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:04 am
Why are people dissing liu chan anyways??? He's the perfect guy to be with xing cai in terms of balancing out the relationship and he doesn't look european or yoshimoto looking!!!! I like the fur on the coat anyways :blush:
No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.
I know that there's a lot of bias here towards him, but I feel like it's just a bit much. Yeah he was a bad ruler in history, but I don't get why that causes some people to feel like he doesn't belong in this game (for whatever reason, even though he was incredibly relevant to the late-era story).

Seraphil
 
TrevorxTravesty
Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
This is a very random question, but...Isn't there anyone on this forum who is actually from Japan & speaks fluent Japanese?

I don't think I've met anyone yet.
:uh:
At least a quarter of all the posts I see you make are spam, and that's odd given you're a mod.
You didn't know? I think mods get special privileges :sly: j/k

And I also don't think all this hate towards Liu Chan is really necessary, either. You guys act like he personally raped your mothers & sisters or something (Actually, that'd be Dong Zhuo ^_~). He's in the game because he simply needed to be in to further complete the story.
No Character beyond what they had in Dynasty Warriors 3 is really "needed" to continue a storyline. Everyone but the rulers could pretty much be an NPC.. but that makes the game boring without Zhao Yun, Gan Ning, and Xiahou Dun and all the other badasses.

And to some knowledge, everyone is going to take someone to a whole new level. I guarantee there is at least one person in the world moaning about why Lu Bu is in the game (and it would be a sin not to include him in ANY DW game)
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
yea... Xing Cai and Liu Chan will make a good couple!

Combine the dead rabbit on her head with his fur pimp suit... instant win :D

This isn't fashion design weekly here.

I will admit that while Guan Ping and Xing Cai wasn't historically accurate (With him historically being decades older than her and all), but I liked it. They're probably still gonna with the "Guan Ping's dead, so I'll rebound and marry Liu Chan" thing again.
But xing cai and guan ping to me seem like siblings even though they aren't blood related so everytime someone mentions their relationship my brain yells out INCEST! INCEST! for about a minute before calming down again........... That's why I am thankful Liu Chan has been added into the game even though Liao Hua or Jian Yong or Fa Zheng would've been way better adds.
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:15 am
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:04 am
Why are people dissing liu chan anyways??? He's the perfect guy to be with xing cai in terms of balancing out the relationship and he doesn't look european or yoshimoto looking!!!! I like the fur on the coat anyways :blush:
No other reason then the fact that he is Liu Chan. That's it.
I know that there's a lot of bias here towards him, but I feel like it's just a bit much. Yeah he was a bad ruler in history, but I don't get why that causes some people to feel like he doesn't belong in this game (for whatever reason, even though he was incredibly relevant to the late-era story).

Seraphil
 
TrevorxTravesty
Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
This is a very random question, but...Isn't there anyone on this forum who is actually from Japan & speaks fluent Japanese?

I don't think I've met anyone yet.
:uh:
At least a quarter of all the posts I see you make are spam, and that's odd given you're a mod.
You didn't know? I think mods get special privileges :sly: j/k

And I also don't think all this hate towards Liu Chan is really necessary, either. You guys act like he personally raped your mothers & sisters or something (Actually, that'd be Dong Zhuo ^_~). He's in the game because he simply needed to be in to further complete the story.
No Character beyond what they had in Dynasty Warriors 3 is really "needed" to continue a storyline. Everyone but the rulers could pretty much be an NPC.. but that makes the game boring without Zhao Yun, Gan Ning, and Xiahou Dun and all the other badasses.

And to some knowledge, everyone is going to take someone to a whole new level. I guarantee there is at least one person in the world moaning about why Lu Bu is in the game (and it would be a sin not to include him in ANY DW game)
If you're going by the Oath brother thing, Liu Chan and Xing Cai aren't that far apart either.

Another interesting segment is how Xiahou Ba will react to Xing Cai (being uncle and all)
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:13 am
yea... Xing Cai and Liu Chan will make a good couple!

Combine the dead rabbit on her head with his fur pimp suit... instant win :D

This isn't fashion design weekly here.

I will admit that while Guan Ping and Xing Cai wasn't historically accurate (With him historically being decades older than her and all), but I liked it. They're probably still gonna with the "Guan Ping's dead, so I'll rebound and marry Liu Chan" thing again.
But xing cai and guan ping to me seem like siblings even though they aren't blood related so everytime someone mentions their relationship my brain yells out INCEST! INCEST! for about a minute before calming down again........... That's why I am thankful Liu Chan has been added into the game even though Liao Hua or Jian Yong or Fa Zheng would've been way better adds.
Xing Cai with Guan Ping would be the same as Xing Cai with Liu Chan, wouldn't it? Either way, it'd be a relationship with the son (or adopted son) of one of Zhang Fei's sworn brothers.
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But xing cai and guan ping to me seem like siblings even though they aren't blood related so everytime someone mentions their relationship my brain yells out INCEST! INCEST! for about a minute before calming down again........... That's why I am thankful Liu Chan has been added into the game even though Liao Hua or Jian Yong or Fa Zheng would've been way better adds.
Calm down~, remember that Guan Ping was adopted..

edit: people already mentioned what i removed from this post twice so..
Edited by melange, Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:35 am.
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If you're going by the Oath brother thing, Liu Chan and Xing Cai aren't that far apart either.

Another interesting segment is how Xiahou Ba will react to Xing Cai (being uncle and all)
Oh crap you're right..................................... sighs.......... anyways I can't imagine Xiahou Ba being an uncle to Xing Cai.... .not with that face...........

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Calm down~, remember that Guan Ping was adopted..
Wow I seem to be forgetting alot of stuff lately......... First that Park Kahi (the person in my avatar) is in her 30's and now this........ great..... lol.

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Haha wow I just saw the scans! (after a long day in Disneyland!!! Haha this day is great)

And here's my full opinion:

Liu Bei: I already knew what he looked like, although I'll just say it again, AMAZING. By far his best look in all the series.

Zhuge Liang: I like his new look, although I'm surprised at how white his clothes are. It suits him though.

Liu Chan: Very much like Liu Bei, they did a good job at that. However he looks like a little baby playing emperor and wearing a blanket. I can't wait to see what his weapon is. I'm glad he's in the game, however I don't like him as who he was in history.

Zhang He: Much better than his DW6, however he hardly has any armor on, which isn't good.

Xiao Qiao: Weird.

Dong Zhuo: AWESOME!!!!! HE'S FAT AGAIN!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: AND HE LOOKS LIKE A TOTAL BADASS TYRANT!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Liu Chan: Very much like Liu Bei, they did a good job at that. However he looks like a little baby playing emperor and wearing a blanket. I can't wait to see what his weapon is. I'm glad he's in the game, however I don't like him.
Liu Chan uses a rapier as a weapon. ^_^
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Liu Chan: Very much like Liu Bei, they did a good job at that. However he looks like a little baby playing emperor and wearing a blanket. I can't wait to see what his weapon is. I'm glad he's in the game, however I don't like him.
Liu Shan uses a rapier as a weapon. ^_^
What? No wooden sword or bladed yo-yo?... Lame....
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Liu Chan: Very much like Liu Bei, they did a good job at that. However he looks like a little baby playing emperor and wearing a blanket. I can't wait to see what his weapon is. I'm glad he's in the game, however I don't like him.
Liu Shan uses a rapier as a weapon. ^_^
What? No wooden sword or bladed yo-yo?... Lame....
Yeah, haha. I think the rapier looks good on him.
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Are there any screenshots of anyone yet? How do you guys know that he has a rapier?
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Are there any screenshots of anyone yet? How do you guys know that he has a rapier?
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Are there any screenshots of anyone yet? How do you guys know that he has a rapier?
I think there's a little box beside each artwork of the character explaining what their weapon is. That and blackkite told us I think... :) Not happy about Xiao Qiao getting one fan..... Dissapointment has never loomed upon me so much.
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i'm calling it. This is going to be Guan Ping's Musou Mode...or whatever you want to call it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIt6KCwlFPw

haha :XD come on my Korean friends..or whoever knows this video... you know the story :P
Edited by Crazypete, Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:53 am.
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About Pang De and Zuo Ci, let's look at it this way: Koei has revealed Xing Cai, Jiang Wei, Da Qiao, Zhu Rong all in the first 3 batches. 4th and 5th batches later, they still haven't shown us either Pang De or Zuo Ci.

Go figure... :mellow:

As much as I'm happy with Liu Shan, poor Xing Cai though to have this baby face as a husband! :kurokan:
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