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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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The Demon of Hefei (Honestly, I envy those who get to meet him personally. He's so awesome)-Kenji
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Squidlipticus
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:16 pm
I'm a long time fan of these games, but fairly new to the real story behind them. I've been learning a lot just from following this forum. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. I have some questions I know you guys can handle.

-Who where the most unstoppable badass characters in real life?

-Who do you think has the most accurate portrayal in the games?

-Was there anyone who was left out of the game that was really important?
Allow me to help you here.
1. Most unstoppable badass character is Zhang Liao. His greatest accomplishment being defeating an army of about 200,00 men with only like 1700 men not to mention racking up a kill count of over 4,000.

2. LU BU- Considered the greatest CHINESE warrior in history rivaled on to Achilles. Not to caught up on his greatest accomplishments

3. Zhao Yun & Wen Yang- From what ive read of Wen Yang he was Jins Zhao Yun as he once killed 100 or so "generals" by his lonesome.

Anyone feel free to correct me, these are my choices.
Gan Ning is pretty amazing too
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Guan Yu and Zhang Fei were also warriors of reknown. Hell, Zhang Fei even reached a level where he alone could give Lu Bu a run for his money. I also suppose that Ma Chao could fit in that list as well..

As for the best archer that goes to Huang Zhong.
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FujiwaraNoSai
Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:24 pm
I just watched the promotional video, and loved it. Nice views of some movesets, and Wang Yuanji's musou is absolutely a killer. Or it may be just the knives and Zhu Rong might share the same musou...

Speaking of possible clones, Xiahou Dun has about the same Normal attacks as Sima Zhao, which kind of confirms clones. Not 100% clones like DW6, since they have (Atleast, I hope) different charge attacks.
How so? With Sima Zhao's moveset he sure spins a lot more than Xiahou Dun's which is sort of like how he was before they switched weapons on him on DW6. If anything in my opinion though theres always a possibility that I'm wrong, I think the clone movesets are only apparent with how they did it before DW6.
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:23 pm
Squidlipticus
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:16 pm
I'm a long time fan of these games, but fairly new to the real story behind them. I've been learning a lot just from following this forum. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. I have some questions I know you guys can handle.

-Who where the most unstoppable badass characters in real life?

-Who do you think has the most accurate portrayal in the games?

-Was there anyone who was left out of the game that was really important?
Allow me to help you here.
1. Most unstoppable badass character is Zhang Liao. His greatest accomplishment being defeating an army of about 200,00 men with only like 1700 men not to mention racking up a kill count of over 4,000.

2. LU BU- Considered the greatest CHINESE warrior in history rivaled on to Achilles. Not to caught up on his greatest accomplishments

3. Zhao Yun & Wen Yang- From what ive read of Wen Yang he was Jins Zhao Yun as he once killed 100 or so "generals" by his lonesome.

Anyone feel free to correct me, these are my choices.
Gan Ning is pretty amazing too
1. It seems like you're kind of biased. Not that I don't love me some Zhang Liao, I truly do. I would just probably have to say Zhang Fei or Guan Yu.

2. I doubt Lu Bu was really so single minded and intense in real life. I just can't really imagine anyone living life only to fight wars and love Diao Chan. I'm sure he had a sympathetic side SOMEWHERE. I always thought Cao Cao seemed pretty accurate.

3. Well, Zhao Yun is an odd answer, since he's been in every DW game to date.
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I'd have to say Guan Yu. As far as I know, he is the ONLY warrior from the Three Kingdoms era to be deified and worshiped as a god. I don't see any temples built in honor of Lu Bu :sly:
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:38 pm.
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Has anyone kindly translated either the character monologue/dialogue, VO monologue, or the Japanese text from the video?

I'm not even going to bother looking how many pages were made in the last 18 or so hours, so I'd appreciate any news, apart from what was in the video. Thanks
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Yea i love the God of War but you have to have some notable accomplishments. None can quite match the Demon of Hefei and his feat there at Hefei. Though i love the Ma Chao story he single handedly slaughtered those who raided his village. I love his story, hes absolutely epic. But im very interested in Guan Yu's greatest accomplishment if any has any idea.

TheRyanHimself
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:36 pm
scourm24
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:23 pm
Squidlipticus
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:16 pm
I'm a long time fan of these games, but fairly new to the real story behind them. I've been learning a lot just from following this forum. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. I have some questions I know you guys can handle.

-Who where the most unstoppable badass characters in real life?

-Who do you think has the most accurate portrayal in the games?

-Was there anyone who was left out of the game that was really important?
Allow me to help you here.
1. Most unstoppable badass character is Zhang Liao. His greatest accomplishment being defeating an army of about 200,00 men with only like 1700 men not to mention racking up a kill count of over 4,000.

2. LU BU- Considered the greatest CHINESE warrior in history rivaled on to Achilles. Not to caught up on his greatest accomplishments

3. Zhao Yun & Wen Yang- From what ive read of Wen Yang he was Jins Zhao Yun as he once killed 100 or so "generals" by his lonesome.

Anyone feel free to correct me, these are my choices.
Gan Ning is pretty amazing too
1. It seems like you're kind of biased. Not that I don't love me some Zhang Liao, I truly do. I would just probably have to say Zhang Fei or Guan Yu.

2. I doubt Lu Bu was really so single minded and intense in real life. I just can't really imagine anyone living life only to fight wars and love Diao Chan. I'm sure he had a sympathetic side SOMEWHERE. I always thought Cao Cao seemed pretty accurate.

3. Well, Zhao Yun is an odd answer, since he's been in every DW game to date.
sorry i only commented on the badass characters not really his other questions, sorry if i confused you lmao.

Mod Edit: Please avoid double posting in the future.
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:23 pm
Squidlipticus
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:16 pm
I'm a long time fan of these games, but fairly new to the real story behind them. I've been learning a lot just from following this forum. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. I have some questions I know you guys can handle.

-Who where the most unstoppable badass characters in real life?

-Who do you think has the most accurate portrayal in the games?

-Was there anyone who was left out of the game that was really important?
Allow me to help you here.
1. Most unstoppable badass character is Zhang Liao. His greatest accomplishment being defeating an army of about 200,00 men with only like 1700 men not to mention racking up a kill count of over 4,000.

2. LU BU- Considered the greatest CHINESE warrior in history rivaled on to Achilles. Not to caught up on his greatest accomplishments

3. Zhao Yun & Wen Yang- From what ive read of Wen Yang he was Jins Zhao Yun as he once killed 100 or so "generals" by his lonesome.

Anyone feel free to correct me, these are my choices.
Gan Ning is pretty amazing too
Ha ha, very biased...

1) Zhang Fei, definitely... Guan Yu is a good choice as well, but Zhang Fei has less of a fictional buffer.

2) I'd agree with whoever said Cao Cao.

3) Lu Su comes to mind, but I expect people to disagree with that.
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What I want to know is...which version of DW7 will have the better graphics? The PS3 or 360?

I wish we could get a side-by-side comparison of screenshots from both versions.
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:51 pm.
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:23 pm
Squidlipticus
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:16 pm
I'm a long time fan of these games, but fairly new to the real story behind them. I've been learning a lot just from following this forum. You guys are a wealth of knowledge. I have some questions I know you guys can handle.

-Who where the most unstoppable badass characters in real life?

-Who do you think has the most accurate portrayal in the games?

-Was there anyone who was left out of the game that was really important?
Allow me to help you here.
1. Most unstoppable badass character is Zhang Liao. His greatest accomplishment being defeating an army of about 200,00 men with only like 1700 men not to mention racking up a kill count of over 4,000.

2. LU BU- Considered the greatest CHINESE warrior in history rivaled on to Achilles. Not to caught up on his greatest accomplishments

3. Zhao Yun & Wen Yang- From what ive read of Wen Yang he was Jins Zhao Yun as he once killed 100 or so "generals" by his lonesome.

Anyone feel free to correct me, these are my choices.
Gan Ning is pretty amazing too
1) Whoever I'm playing as at the time. I hope the kill count goes past 9999 this game~

2) Whoever I'm not playing as at the time. Too busy being the badass in #1 to bother being accurate.

3) From lurking this thread's incarnations for quite some time, there's a whole plethora of characters who should (eventually) be added that were (almost) all important. Personally, i don't know many of them besides "That beefy guy i kill in that stage every time first" or "The dude in the robes who keeps showing up while i'm stomping <insert playable officer>'s ass"


I bet their saving their pet-kingdom shu's big reveals for the last scans, we'll probably see a round of cherrypicked people the next scan.
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TrevorxTravesty
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:38 pm
I'd have to say Guan Yu. As far as I know, he is the ONLY warrior from the Three Kingdoms era to be deified and worshiped as a god. I don't see any temples built in honor of Lu Bu :sly:
Spot on Trevor!

Sorry no matter how much you like Zhang Liao, Guan Yu has many statues in China if you ever visit there. They also sell mini statues of him at stores too! No other warrior I can think of has statues from 3 kingdoms.

In japan there is a statue of kenshin and shingen though lol
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:55 pm
TrevorxTravesty
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:38 pm
I'd have to say Guan Yu. As far as I know, he is the ONLY warrior from the Three Kingdoms era to be deified and worshiped as a god. I don't see any temples built in honor of Lu Bu :sly:
Spot on Trevor!

Sorry no matter how much you like Zhang Liao, Guan Yu has many statues in China if you ever visit there. They also sell mini statues of him at stores too! No other warrior I can think of has statues from 3 kingdoms.

In japan there is a statue of kenshin and shingen though lol
Touche my man
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1. lu bu, guan yu, zhang fei, zhang liao,gan ning,zhao yun, ding feng, ma chao, sun ce... you can look up there info on kongming.com but to me these dudes were real front line soldiers, one man army warriors...imo

2.now you mean in the book or factual history... but ill say cao cao was always the same and straight up... hard to see who else i might be wrong

3.pretty much from now, dw7 has most of the important figures in ROTTK...
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donthatekongming
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:55 pm
TrevorxTravesty
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:38 pm
I'd have to say Guan Yu. As far as I know, he is the ONLY warrior from the Three Kingdoms era to be deified and worshiped as a god. I don't see any temples built in honor of Lu Bu :sly:
Spot on Trevor!

Sorry no matter how much you like Zhang Liao, Guan Yu has many statues in China if you ever visit there. They also sell mini statues of him at stores too! No other warrior I can think of has statues from 3 kingdoms.

In japan there is a statue of kenshin and shingen though lol
You forgot Ieyasu. He not only has a statue, but many shrines are dedicated to him :)
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Hefei wasen't fictional... Zhang Liao was heavily outnumbered but still managed to pull an impossible victory. As long as he lived He Fei wouldn't fall and his mere presence frightened Wu troops and the people of Wu. No other person in the Era had such a widespread name to be feared as Zhang Liao.

The troop numbers weren't really 200,000(Real number was around 100,000 vs 7,000 Defenders though Zhang Liao and Li Dian only used 800 troops) but it was a lie to lower morale. As far as Zhang Liao was concerned he was facing 200,000 and still defeated the Wu forces, who had many of their best Generals in the assualt, quite soundly.

Hefei was awesome...

He managed to kill scores of troops, two generals, managed to cause the death of Chen Wu, and even charged Sun Quan's camp. He than smacked around Xu Sheng and Sun Qian. Than there's the thing where when surronded by numerous troops he broke free and than charged back in when he heard that some troops were still trapped so he freed them. He than withheld a siege for a few days before attacking a retreating Wu forces throwing them into confusion.

Than he manages to surrond Sun Quan. Of course this meant that he had to beat back Lu Meng and Jiang Qin which he did soundly as Ling Tong barely managed to save Sun Quan. Sadly Sun Quan escaped certian death and managed to jump the broken bridge. Though to be fair Zhang Liao almost killed Ling Tong who suffered grave wounds from defending the rear for Sun Quan's retreat.
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ehw! version 4!!! i think that the promo is virtually useless unless you speak japanese. seemed like more of a recap anyways. the gameplay parts looked amazing!
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donthatekongming
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:55 pm
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:38 pm
I'd have to say Guan Yu. As far as I know, he is the ONLY warrior from the Three Kingdoms era to be deified and worshiped as a god. I don't see any temples built in honor of Lu Bu :sly:
Spot on Trevor!

Sorry no matter how much you like Zhang Liao, Guan Yu has many statues in China if you ever visit there. They also sell mini statues of him at stores too! No other warrior I can think of has statues from 3 kingdoms.

In japan there is a statue of kenshin and shingen though lol
Yup... they're all over the place. I actually bought one when I was in Pingyao. Had the halberd and everything.
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Also..Donnie Yen will be starring in a new movie this year where he plays Guan Yu! That is something I cannot wait to see ;o
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I watched the new Trailer.
Zhao Yun's moves (moveset) looks pretty nice, and pretty cool.

I hope Gang Ning get his old True-Musou-Attack-Moveset from "Dynasty Warriors 3" !!!!!!!!





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Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:05 pm
Also..Donnie Yen will be starring in a new movie this year where he plays Guan Yu! That is something I cannot wait to see ;o
donnie yen as guan yu? ...dont know how he look with the beard and all but any movie with donnie yen in it is a must see... but would like to see donnie yen play as sun ce now that fits him well as a character :2up:
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TrevorxTravesty
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:50 pm
What I want to know is...which version of DW7 will have the better graphics? The PS3 or 360?

I wish we could get a side-by-side comparison of screenshots from both versions.
Unless a game is truly optimized for one system, 360 versions tend to perform, and look better than PS3's releases. But this is the sort of question that riles up every fanboy and their mother, so I'm not gonna touch it anymore, just layin' out the facts.

I'm sure in this case, they'll look the same. If there are differences, they won't be noticeable unless you're sitting there nitpicking every detail.
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:50 pm
360 naturally comes with some antialiasing (less of those white tiny jagged edges) and generally looks 'brighter'

But really at HD it's still a tiny resolution many people wot notice the diff and most likely changing tv setting will get it looking identical.

I'll get for 360 tho as I can't take advantage of uncompressed audio. And it's generally cheaper here. Also I like listening to my own music :))



What I want to know is...which version of DW7 will have the better graphics? The PS3 or 360?

I wish we could get a side-by-side comparison of screenshots from both versions.
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I agree. I am also getting the 360 version so I can play my own music in the background.

Duel of Fates when Guan Yu faces Cao Ren at Fan Castle? Hell yes! Yakety Sax when Lu Bu chases me around? Oh yeah!
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:21 pm.
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Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:14 pm
TrevorxTravesty
Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:50 pm
What I want to know is...which version of DW7 will have the better graphics? The PS3 or 360? I wish we could get a side-by-side comparison of screenshots from both versions.
Unless a game is truly optimized for one system, 360 versions tend to perform, and look better than PS3's releases. But this is the sort of question that riles up every fanboy and their mother, so I'm not gonna touch it anymore, just layin' out the facts. I'm sure in this case, they'll look the same. If there are differences, they won't be noticeable unless you're sitting there nitpicking every detail.
you just sparked the flame to the fuel... graphics all looks similar unless you counting pixels but there aint much difference but all i know ps3 specs are a tad above 360... more power means you do the math.. IMO
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http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org1359337.jpg

Looks like the graphics improved since the earlier screenshots afterall.
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