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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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EX攻撃の発動コマンドは、武将ごとに確認できるぞ。

You can check what the commands for triggering the EX attack for each officer

translation of screenshot:
EX attack - on Charge 3 hit triangle.
- triggerable on these types of weapons

So it means that in this screen the possible attacks are:-
Square string [][][][][][]
C1 ^
C2 []^
C3 [][]^ (^) <-- add an extra ^ to trigger EX attack
C4 [][][]^
C5 [][][][]^
C6 [][][][][]^
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DW6 duels were too easy to avoid. You just had to stay out of the center of bases. Or you could be cheap and get the enemy down to barely any HP, then get to the center of the base, and run their a$$ over with a horse to get the extra EXP. Point being, system was flawed (not saying DW4 was perfect either but I think I preferred the one on one to the death match (although it was a time-out too often)).
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melange
Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:15 am
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EX攻撃の発動コマンドは、武将ごとに確認できるぞ。

You can check what the commands for triggering the EX attack for each officer

translation of screenshot:
EX attack - on Charge 3 hit triangle.
- triggerable on these types of weapons

So it means that in this screen the possible attacks are:-
Square string [][][][][][]
C1 ^
C2 []^
C3 [][]^ (^) <-- add an extra ^ to trigger EX attack
C4 [][][]^
C5 [][][][]^
C6 [][][][][]^
oh that is actually quite cool. hehe thankyou for the valuable information :)
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:16 am
DW6 duels were too easy to avoid. You just had to stay out of the center of bases. Or you could be cheap and get the enemy down to barely any HP, then get to the center of the base, and run their a$$ over with a horse to get the extra EXP. Point being, system was flawed (not saying DW4 was perfect either but I think I preferred the one on one to the death match (although it was a time-out too often)).
The reason why I liked them in 6 was the audience participation :lol:
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melange
Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:15 am
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EX攻撃の発動コマンドは、武将ごとに確認できるぞ。

You can check what the commands for triggering the EX attack for each officer

translation of screenshot:
EX attack - on Charge 3 hit triangle.
- triggerable on these types of weapons

So it means that in this screen the possible attacks are:-
Square string [][][][][][]
C1 ^
C2 []^
C3 [][]^ (^) <-- add an extra ^ to trigger EX attack
C4 [][][]^
C5 [][][][]^
C6 [][][][][]^
Thank you for translation. ^_^

So really we return to the old system, except that this time will perform a "EX" attack.
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What i got from the new stuff!!!!

Zhang He: Ummm...costume is a plus, but his face looks more feminine than ever. He actually looks like a woman more than a man trying to be a woman. And those big hoop earrings augment his appearance even more turning him from a drag queen to an androgynous. At least he seems to have returned back to his "psycho killing anything unbeautiful" self. Pros: Costume and Personality have returned to normal. His voice fits too. Cons: Looks androgynous now, like a woman.

Liu Chan: So, this kid makes me want to hug him, yet look at him like HUH :o He seems a bit...too mellow, its almost creepy how he always has that "I dont give a ****" smile on all the time, even in his fighting screenshots and cg screenshot, he always has that mellow, creepy yet warming smile. Interesting....Pros: Love his look, voice matches great. Cons: Not really feeling the rapier for him. Was hoping for something different, but oh well.

Xiahou Ba: I'm just glad he has the helmet on. But it looks like he stole Guan Pings weapon. lol :lol:

Gah! i dont feel like commenting anymore. Everyone else looks great, minus Xiao Qiao. Her look just...just...not workin. Regardless, im feeling her usage of the fan verses Da qiaos method.

It seems like Da Qiao uses the fan close range and melee wise, while Xiao Qiao is throwing it for long range like a boomerang. Either one is good for me though.

Oh Zhuge Liang! I main man! I'm loving his fan! Looks like hes putting more of a mystical emphasis on wind magic. His outfit and hair look a bit plain for my taste, but nice nonetheless. I'm actually thinking that the person Zhao Yun is talking to at chang ban is zhuge liang. i can see it in the hair now. Overall nice, very nice! Voice fits well of course too. Just his attire a bit of a...bore :rolleyes:
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lol, true, that was fun. They were pretty good about poking you back in the center if you were on the enemies side, so there's that.

Thanks for the translation about the EX moves, that clears things up.
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周瑜のEX攻撃は、炎を纏った武器を地面に叩きつけ、辺りを火の海にする豪快な技。

Zhou Yu's EX attack is stirring attack that hits the ground with his fire-ensheathed weapon, and turning the surroundings in a sea of fire

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星彩のEX攻撃は、精神を集中してパワーアップを計る、補助系効果の技。

Xing Cai's EX attack is a support type technique, concentrating her thoughts and powering her up.

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EX Attack

Each character has an EX Attack action for their specialized type of weapon. With their specialized weapon equiped, pressing a set series of commands will activate it.

Example of EX attacks

Zhao Yun - a powerful and unblockable attack (on the spear's [][]^ attack, press ^ one more time)
Cao Cao - freezes enemies (on the sword's ^ attack, press ^ one more time

As for the rest, each character will have different commands and effects.
Edited by melange, Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:26 am.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:05 am
Well if that theory is right then Lady Bu and Guan Suo are the only two new characters left and I don't think Koei is going to end their new character showing with those two.
Well if that's true...Koei really screwed up with the new character ratios...why add 4 new Shu characters, 2 Wu, and only one Wei? Koei should definitely try to balance out the number of new characters, but well, considering the new Jin Kingdom, there are more new "Wei" characters. But, let's see some variety here!
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Now that Ba has been formally revealed and shown to wear his awesome helm, I presume everyone will quit crying about how he looks like...what was it.....Jim Beaver? or w/e
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Phoenixtalon, this is exactly why I'm not convinced they're finished with new characters. And 0 Other characters too. It's why I don't take the rumors for gospel. That said we are running out of time especially if the last Famitsu doesn't show anything / is just review of the game.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:29 am
Now that Ba has been formally revealed and shown to wear his awesome helm, I presume everyone will quit crying about how he looks like...what was it.....Jim Beaver? or w/e
...Jim Beaver? Is it sad that I immediately recognized him from Supernatural? Oh well...

I do like that he'll wear the helmet in actual gameplay, despite not hating his youthful face I really didn't want to look at it for the entire time I would play as him.
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Hmm... After looking at this picture the person Zhao Yun is talking to here isn't Zhuge Liang. While the person has the tied hair, Zhuge doesn't seem to have it (Unless there's something I'm not seeing). Either the mysterious person is the Liu Chan's mom or is someone else. I don't know, am I seeing things?
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So our mr controversial's bio..

Liu Shan's bio (from website)
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Liu Bei's son. As the son of Liu Bei, who had manage to attract many heroes to his side by his charisma, many of the people around him expected much of Liu Shan. He rarely takes action immediately, preferring to deliberate over things before deciding. Because of that his reactions(decisions) are slow, and thus because of the excessive expectations from people surrounding him, he's been mistaken for being feebleminded.

Liu Shan's bio (from famitsu)
人間的な魅力で数々の英雄をひきつける劉備の息子として、周囲の人々に期待されてきた。しかし、すぐに行動を起こさずに、熟考して物事を判断するくせがあり、そのために反応が遅く、過剰な期待を寄せる周囲からは暗愚と噂されることがある。手数と攻撃の早さに優れた細剣を使う。
As the son of Liu Bei, who had manage to attract many heroes to his side by his charisma, many of the people around him expected much of Liu Shan. However, because he rarely takes action immediately and has a habit of deliberating over things before deciding, his reactions(decisions) are often slow, and because of the excessive expectations from people surrounding him, he's been rumored to be feebleminded. He uses a rapier which excels at frequent and fast attacks.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:58 am
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This is most likely a switch attack...
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Liu Bei's son. As the son of Liu Bei, who had manage to attract many heroes to his side by his charisma, many of the people around him expected much of Liu Shan. He rarely takes action immediately, preferring to deliberate over things before deciding. Because of that his reactions(decisions) are slow, and thus because of the excessive expectations from people surrounding him, he's been mistaken for being feebleminded.


I get the feeling Liu Shan haters are really not going to like the way that last sentence sounds. Mistakenly feeble minded is probably not as stupid as some people were hoping for.
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*Looks at DW5 Zhen Ji then to Zhang He of DW7....sigh*. :rolleyes:

Anyway, Zhuge Liang my main man! Loving the magic he is using and his voice!*melt* I can't wait to play with him.

Liu Bei looks so epic. Such a feirce look he has.

Once agian a in game look has changed my view on someone. Xiao looks fine now.(Yes I'm talking about the whole outfit. Hat and all.) Since the her single fan looks to be different from Da's I can't complain.

Don't even get me started on how much I'm loving Liu Shan right now. Its the coat man. I hope he and Shang Xiang have an interaction if she doesn't die on her death date.

Loving Zhen's pose with her ex move. Showing those foot soilders who runs things. :shifty:
Edited by Celestial, Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:02 am.
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Here's some exclusive gameplay of Liu Chan!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YTZ_BwwcjU

:kurokan:
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:59 am
Here's some exclusive gameplay of Liu Chan! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YTZ_BwwcjU :kurokan:
:XD

I hope you are happy with the fighting system news Tetsuo.
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:crazy: Push my eyes :OMG: Dong Zhuo`s face is the the ugliest thing that I have ever seen. :sick: Yeah he`s real nightmare, poor Diao Chan... Mighty Lu Bu please defend her from this ugly monster. :) Zhang He`s face was not changed much, he still emoboy or traversty or who he is. (metroman :shifty: ) Zhuge Liang looks older and I like it. Liu Chan is cute boy and Liu Bei is handsome now. Xiahou Ba is not another pretty face and it`s good I guess.
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The game looks decent so far, but I'm not completely sold yet. If they really did remove roll canceling without anything else to replace it like a dash or backstep, the game is still going to feel stiff like the pre-Orochi games did. It seems like there's a fair amount of recovery frames during switches, so that might not be enough to immediately go on the defensive in a pinch. However, they might be nice and add invincibility frames to the weapon switching similar to how Orochi had it on tags. I'm still not quite sure why they're removing the one good addition to the combat engine from 6, but whatever.

The EX attacks being stuck at certain points in attack strings means that the game's new combat mechanics won't get buried under endless one-button EX spamming, so that's a step in the right direction at least.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:21 am
The game looks decent so far, but I'm not completely sold yet. If they really did remove roll canceling without anything else to replace it like a dash or backstep, the game is still going to feel stiff like the pre-Orochi games did. It seems like there's a fair amount of recovery frames during switches, so that might not be enough to immediately go on the defensive in a pinch. However, they might be nice and add invincibility frames to the weapon switching similar to how Orochi had it on tags. I'm still not quite sure why they're removing the one good addition to the combat engine from 6, but whatever. The EX attacks being stuck at certain points in attack strings means that the game's new combat mechanics won't get buried under endless one-button EX spamming, so that's a step in the right direction at least.
I can't believe I forgot that they took out the roll. :facepalm: Some people where talking about a counter attack earlier. Something about being able to switch weapons while being hit. But I do hope they keep the counter system from DW6. It was really helpful in those chaos stages.
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I'm sure that they'll have a partial replacement at least. KOEI is never good at giving details on advanced gameplay and techniques in their promotional material, anyway. After all, Orochi 1 looked like little more than a cheap cash-in with no improvements to the gameplay engine until it came out and people started making videos for it.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:50 am
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It says techinically there WONT be any clones at all. Each person will have special EX attacks if that is there EX weapon. Even if its the same weapon....

So basically a spear user will e the same as another spear user until they do their EX attack, which seems to be the final string or linked string
Well that reeks then. I expected a little more uniqueness to each character apart from their personalities and their Ex attack............. it's dw 6 all over again.........

Btw Thankyou for translating :) :) much appreciated :D

And Thankyou Jsun for uploading the cg artworks :) much appreciated :D :dance: ^_^
No.. Dw2/3/4/5 again actually.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:06 am
From what it looks like Xiao Qiao seems entirely different than Da Qiao. It could be that KOEI is doing a "same weapon, different moveset" type thing. Also, I cannot see Da Qiao doing the positions that Xiao Qiao is doing! XD
I certainly hope this is the case.

Remember in DW3-5 each character had 4-5 named weapons unique to themselves, even if they shared the same weapon type (spears, fans etc)? Such as:

Da Qiao: Twin Fans, Violet Fans, True Beauty and Qiao Beauty
Xiao Qiao: Double Fans, Peach Fans, True Grace and Qiao Grace

Maybe Koei is using the 360 'different' weapons, broken down so each 'group' of weapons are 'identified' to a character/moveset and the equiping weapons thing is done such that if say Xiahou Dun were to equip Violet Fans or True Beauty (identified with Da Qiao), he'd be using Da Qiao's moveset (minus Da's EX Attack), and if he were to equip Peach Fans or True Grace (identified with Xiao Qiao), he'd be using Xiao Qiao's moveset (minus Xiao's EX Attack).

This way, Da Qiao could end up doing the positions Xiao Qiao is doing if she were equiped with Xiao Qiao's fan.

This probably has been mentioned somewhere before... ^^0

Of course if the only difference between character's with the same type of weapon were the EX attacks, then :(
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