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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,965 Views)
FKA
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Oh my god the qiaos in sailor moon outfits...... I CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD NOW WOW THEY'D LOOK SO ADORABLY AWESOME!!!!! Thankyou kaiosuke I didn't even think of that!.
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Not a fan of the Qiao's new look. Too much of the DW4 School-girl look for me.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:55 am
OmnislashDS
Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:44 am
:realangry: Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but anyone else not liking the amount of UNIQUE weapons in this game so far?? i mean seriously lets see what we got here.. DAO BLADE= Xiahou Dun + Sima Zhao + CaoCao= 3 SPEAR= Zhao Yun + Jiang Wei + Ma Chao = 3 RAPIER= Liu Shan+ Sima Shi + Yuan Shao= 3 CLAW NUCKLE= Ding Feng + Meng Huo = 2 THROWING DAGGERS= Zhu Rong + Wang Yuanji= 2 TWIN SWORDS= Liu Bei + Lu Xun= 2 BOW= Xiahou Yuan + Huang Zhong= 2 BOW STAFF= Zhou Yu + Yue Ying = 2 CHAIN MACE= Cao Ren + Dong Zhou = 2 FOLDING FAN= Xiao Qiao + Da Qiao = 2 FEATHERED FAN= Sima Yi + Zhuge Liang + Zhuge Dan= 3 :realangry: PLUS who knows what the other characters that havent been revealed yet are going to have, no doubt in my mind there will be more of the same weapons above :( AND if u put the fans together, that equals FIVE WTF really??!! KOEI couldnt think of any other unique weapons to make?? Im not talking about CLONES here for i already know that their move sets will be different from one another, which im very happy bout by the way :hehe: IM talkin bout the variety of diff weapons in this game! WHERE ARE THEY??? why didnt they give cao rens shield n blade?? what happened to yue yings scythe??? instead they give them a weapon that another character has?? i mean at least give one of the dao sisters twin fans( hope u guys know what im on about) using the same weapons would just be boring!! ILL TELL YA WHY!! KOEI IS F#*!@N LAZY THATS WHY!!!!!! :angry: to me having diff movesets but having the same weapons is almost the same as CLONEING.. sorry i had to say it :/
^This This This!!!!!!!!!!!!! I totally agree with this statement!!!! Thankyou for that :) You basically just stated everything that has been building up in my mind :) And I'm thankful. :) @kaiosuke37, I'd like it too if koei would make better more imaginative dlc. Maybe some ninja gaiden/dead or alive costumes? Maybe having Cao Ren dressed in a Gundam Suit??? Shang Xiang in Chun Li's costume? There are so many more imaginative and awesome costumes koei could make as dlc. Maybe they could even include Romance of the three kingdoms costumes for characters to fit the context of the game. Anything but that uniform......... Sorry if I sound rude or anything..... hehe :blush: Edit: I just had a great idea..... what about making some dlc costumes based on Sailor Moon!!!!!!!! or Naruto Shippuden!!! or Bleach!!!!! I would love to use Zhang He as a sailor scout!!!! But thats just my inner anime-maniac talking hehe.
now that you mention it it seems like a few of the weapons have been taken from ninga gaiden IMO the chain blade and..... well im not sure what else...yea im really not sure........BUT!!! i think that ayane katana's that sycthe, the claws and talons, that naginata staff weapon the flail and kasumi's soon to be katana would be awesome weapon adds for some diversity
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Too bad its koei making this game and not another better developer otherwise I might actually see these weapons as possible dlc. The naginata's my favourite from the list though ^_^
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@OmnislashDS
Movesets being different is more important than weapon types being different. Considering that so far the max number of characters within a weapon type is 3, I think that is perfectly acceptable.

Besides, on the flip side of your "everyone must have different weapon types" position, there are those who would complain about "unrealistic" or "unhistorical" weapons and wanting a strict adherence to the weapons that did appear during that period which would mean even more stacking in the sword/spear/glaive/etc weapon types. In a way the current distribution of more characters sharing the more 'common' weapons like swords/spears/glaives/bows/etc helps keep the game 'true to the period' while letting more 'individualistic' characters use the more unique ones.

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Thanks. I was more trying to figure out a way how different moveset would be equipped then figuring out "numbers of weapons" cos I remember vaguely some discussion a while ago about "If I put folding fans on X which is the moveset X will default to, Da Qiao's or Xiao Qiao's?".

As for similar S-string with different charge attacks. - true DW3-5 had a lot of these but I think there were some with the same weapon types who also had some differences in their S-strings.. I don't remember exactly but I think Da and Xiao definitely had quite a bit of difference even in their S-strings. Some variety in the S-string would be ideal... anyway if its the same I hope the different charge attacks would be enough to distract people from noticing the S-strings ^^0
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:29 am
Too bad its koei making this game and not another better developer otherwise I might actually see these weapons as possible dlc. The naginata's my favourite from the list though ^_^
really my fav is the claws and talons haha if zhang he had a child i know what he would use hahaha ^_^
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PostalOrder
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Fixed her:
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Sort it out, Koei. Side ponytails are NOT cute. They're incredibly stupid. And ugly.
Edited by PostalOrder, Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:46 am.
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I think her side ponytail would be sure if the accessory was on the same side and that weird bun thing whatever it is was gone. Good job PostalOrder she looks much better! XD

& WTF @ that Wang Yuanji atl costume! That is horrible! t looks like shes about to go bowling XD

but the fact that some special dlc from somewhere..i cant rember will be zhao yuns dw1 outfit keeps me hopeful that there will be dlc for dw3 outfits for every character that was in it! Nothing beats Da Qiaos DW3 outfit <3
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melange
Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:35 am
@OmnislashDS
Movesets being different is more important than weapon types being different. Considering that so far the max number of characters within a weapon type is 3, I think that is perfectly acceptable.

Besides, on the flip side of your "everyone must have different weapon types" position, there are those who would complain about "unrealistic" or "unhistorical" weapons and wanting a strict adherence to the weapons that did appear during that period which would mean even more stacking in the sword/spear/glaive/etc weapon types. In a way the current distribution of more characters sharing the more 'common' weapons like swords/spears/glaives/bows/etc helps keep the game 'true to the period' while letting more 'individualistic' characters use the more unique ones.

@AdawgDaFAB
Thanks. I was more trying to figure out a way how different moveset would be equipped then figuring out "numbers of weapons" cos I remember vaguely some discussion a while ago about "If I put folding fans on X which is the moveset X will default to, Da Qiao's or Xiao Qiao's?".

As for similar S-string with different charge attacks. - true DW3-5 had a lot of these but I think there were some with the same weapon types who also had some differences in their S-strings.. I don't remember exactly but I think Da and Xiao definitely had quite a bit of difference even in their S-strings. Some variety in the S-string would be ideal... anyway if its the same I hope the different charge attacks would be enough to distract people from noticing the S-strings ^^0
yes i understand what your saying, i understand that you gotta have more then one spear ect, thats obvious... BUT! what im pissed off is, WHY would koei have some characters change their UNIQUE weapons for one thats the same as someone elses,??? ITS completly not needed!! EG cao rens shield and the TWIN FANS??? whats the reason for changing sumthing unique??? i dont beleive that im being too harsh here to koei, im just saying it how it really is.

Understand what im trying to say??
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rayhaku
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I sure hope Koei knows what they're doing if they included Little Chan
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FKA
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Those new Xiao Qiao pics look leagues better than her current state. Now to fix those jumbo shorts of hers....... lol I'm attracted to her boots for some reason though..... :P

PostalOrder, great work :bowdown: :2up: ^_^
Edited by FKA, Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:07 pm.
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OH remember xiahou Duns KIRIN FANG??? the big sword that needed TWO hands to swing round?? well now hes just got a small dao blade.. SAME as the other guys...

I bet you Xu Hong wont have his great axe no more either. seeing the video theres gonna be ANOTHER chain and mace user ><

is that still ok with you??


im getting too worked up here sorry.. I LOVE DYNASTY WARRIORS!!!
Edited by OmnislashDS, Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:09 pm.
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It looks like Xiahou Ba shares a weapon with Guan Ping and Sakon...that is more of the Machete type rather than the Giant Sword Ma Chao had in one of the scans and Fu Xi wielded before...

I think we've seen all the interesting new weapons in the Jin heavy update...Cannon, Paint Brush, Drill Spear, and Floating Swords...

What's left for the remaining characters?

Wu:
Gan Ning - pirate blade or twin knives
Huang Gai - rod
Sun Jian - elder sword
Sun Quan - I'm positive it is a sword

Shu:
Guan Yu - Blue Dragon Halberd
Guan Ping - Junior Blue Dragon Halberd or Machete
Zhang Fei - Viper Spear
Wei Yan - Club or Double Voulge
Pang Tong - Magical Staff

Wei:
Cao Pi - Pure Havoc or Extra Long Sword
Xu Huang - Axe or Chain Mace (Dong Zhuo and Cao Ren)
Xu Zhu - Giant Club
Pang De??? - Dual Halberds

Others:
Diao Chan - Dual Mace or Whip
Lu Bu - Sky Piercer or Cross Halberds
Zuo Ci??? - Magical Decks

Rumored New People:
Guan Suo -................
Bu Furen -........

Weapons that were shown but none has wielded yet...
Crossbow
Giant Sword
Giant Club
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OmnislashDS
Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:07 pm
OH remember xiahou Duns KIRIN FANG??? the big sword that needed TWO hands to swing round?? well now hes just got a small dao blade.. SAME as the other guys...

I bet you Xu Hong wont have his great axe no more either. seeing the video theres gonna be ANOTHER chain and mace user ><

is that still ok with you??


im getting too worked up here sorry.. I LOVE DYNASTY WARRIORS!!!
Xiahou Dun holds his Kirin Fang. That`s for sure (if you have much free time listed previous pages and you would find his GC artwork with that).
And it`s not proven that Xu Huang vielded chain with mace. His halberd come back too.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:01 am
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:44 am
:realangry: Not sure if this has been mentioned yet or not, but anyone else not liking the amount of UNIQUE weapons in this game so far?? i mean seriously lets see what we got here.. DAO BLADE= Xiahou Dun + Sima Zhao + CaoCao= 3 SPEAR= Zhao Yun + Jiang Wei + Ma Chao = 3 RAPIER= Liu Shan+ Sima Shi + Yuan Shao= 3 CLAW NUCKLE= Ding Feng + Meng Huo = 2 THROWING DAGGERS= Zhu Rong + Wang Yuanji= 2 TWIN SWORDS= Liu Bei + Lu Xun= 2 BOW= Xiahou Yuan + Huang Zhong= 2 BOW STAFF= Zhao Yu + Yi Ling = 2 CHAIN MACE= Cao Ren + Dong Zhou = 2 FOLDING FAN= Xiao Qiao + Da Qiao = 2 FEATHERED FAN= Sima Yi + Zhuge Liang + Zhuge Dan= 3 :realangry: PLUS who knows what the other characters that havent been revealed yet are going to have, no doubt in my mind there will be more of the same weapons above :( AND if u put the fans together, that equals FIVE WTF really??!! KOEI couldnt think of any other unique weapons to make?? Im not talking about CLONES here for i already know that their move sets will be different from one another, which im very happy bout by the way :hehe: IM talkin bout the variety of diff weapons in this game! WHERE ARE THEY??? why didnt they give cao rens shield n blade?? what happened to yue yings scythe??? instead they give them a weapon that another character has?? i mean at least give one of the dao sisters twin fans( hope u guys know what im on about) using the same weapons would just be boring!! ILL TELL YA WHY!! KOEI IS F#*!@N LAZY THATS WHY!!!!!! :angry: to me having diff movesets but having the same weapons is almost the same as CLONEING.. sorry i had to say it :/
***Sorry for the double post***

:hmmm: dude . . . you do know that there's over 60 characters in this game!? That's a hell of alot! Post me one game that isn't a crossover, that has this amount of characters. Koei has done extremely well so far, EVEN accepting the negatives, this game will be well worth my money; plus spending extra for the dlc.

You should know that most companies are hesitant about putting this amount of characters, because they too will lack much more uniqueness considering that there gameplay mechanics aren't designed for this many characters. Look at Sengoku Basara 3, they're so wrapped up in there gameplay, that they missed out on HALF of the roster that was already present in previous games; Koei only cut 7, still giving us unfinished characters, (not saying thats good, but they did what they could).

Some people consider DW mechanics to be boring, but it's rather perfect for their way of doing things. But if you think they're not doing enough and they're being lazy, that only says that you are one greedy customer :( I would personally rather have a FINISHED game this time. ^_^ /rant

EDIT @Kahi: That would be amazing!! Could you imagine Xiao and Da in sailor moon outfits!? That would be beyond adorable!!!
yes i know your right, n yes i know im being picky. but what i said isnt far from the truth!! i guess im more upset coz my fav kingdom is WEI. And in this game theyer changing FOUR of my fav characters (cao cao xiahou dun, cao ren, xu hong) weapons for no reason!! the only reason im not too fussy bout zhang liaos weapons being changed is coz at least theyer unique:) (everyone in wei is my fav btw :))
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:25 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:07 pm
OH remember xiahou Duns KIRIN FANG??? the big sword that needed TWO hands to swing round?? well now hes just got a small dao blade.. SAME as the other guys...

I bet you Xu Hong wont have his great axe no more either. seeing the video theres gonna be ANOTHER chain and mace user ><

is that still ok with you??


im getting too worked up here sorry.. I LOVE DYNASTY WARRIORS!!!
Xiahou Dun holds his Kirin Fang. That`s for sure (if you have much free time listed previous pages and you would find his GC artwork with that).
And it`s not proven that Xu Huang vielded chain with mace. His halberd come back too.
sorry to correct you here, but have u seen xiahou duns gamplay??? he fights with the sword using only ONE hand. IF it was truley kirin fang he would be fighting with two hands..
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So I finally see the updated site annnnd...

The DW ladies need to pack it up and go home because Zhang He just owned all of them. Fierce Zhang He is fierce. I LOVE HIM.

Xiao Qiao's outfit isn't all that bad in motion. If I just keep her moving it won't be as bad. XD I love her laugh though, it's adorable.
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If is true that Zhang He is using a flute in the screen-shot then Koei probably want to make him similar to what weapon he use in Dynasty Warrior Advance.Trust me in Dwa he is fast and tend to freeze player a lot with this weapon..
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Lawson's special preorder bonus pics revealed:

Yay for Ou Genki~~ :hehe: (LOL for uniform fetish)

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This makes me wonder if the dagger will also give you different moveset or is it just for the look? Either way it still looks pretty cool though (I mean the dagger, although I like her hairstyle that come with that Lawson uniform as well)
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Lawson's special preorder bonus pics revealed:

Yay for Ou Genki~~ :hehe: (LOL for uniform fetish)

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Wow! Very nice costume!
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I hope Liu Chan gets a similar English VA To Takenaka Hanbei
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i just saw the updated site and saw ms xiao hahaha at least her fan looks different but man im still bummed that her original weapon isnt the double fans oh well i'll get used to it

:facepalm: my fav character has been ruined.....not really though :)
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:33 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:25 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:07 pm
OH remember xiahou Duns KIRIN FANG??? the big sword that needed TWO hands to swing round?? well now hes just got a small dao blade.. SAME as the other guys...

I bet you Xu Hong wont have his great axe no more either. seeing the video theres gonna be ANOTHER chain and mace user ><

is that still ok with you??


im getting too worked up here sorry.. I LOVE DYNASTY WARRIORS!!!
Xiahou Dun holds his Kirin Fang. That`s for sure (if you have much free time listed previous pages and you would find his GC artwork with that).
And it`s not proven that Xu Huang vielded chain with mace. His halberd come back too.
sorry to correct you here, but have u seen xiahou duns gamplay??? he fights with the sword using only ONE hand. IF it was truley kirin fang he would be fighting with two hands..
He may use it one handed now, instead of two like before, but I am pretty damn sure this is the Kirin Fang.
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I don't know if someone already posted this but, in Zhen Ji's 'Ex attack' screenshot, her secondary weapon seems to be a whip? (Hopefully Diao Chans ex weap!)
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