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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,962 Views)
Ti-eL
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:53 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:45 pm
The thing that worries me is that we're having a lot of duplicate weapons. Now Sima Shi, Yuan Shao, and Liu Chan have rapiers. It will be a miracle if Koei gave everyone a unique moveset
The only bad thing here is that Liu Shan has a rapier.

I can't even imagine him fighting, I mean, wasn't he mentally retarded ? He would probably be more of a threat to himself than to the enemy.

Don't get me wrong, his design is nice (perfectly represents the young and careless noble type), but he should have been an UNPC, nothing more.
well, me could use him only once in kingdom mode when we have to, and don't have to use him again.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:49 pm
oh wait! the screenshots are there! silly me. liu bei and zhuge liang looks really good. xiahou ba is better without the helmet. liu chan with rapier is not bad. xiao qiao is out of place.

i'm not worry about cloned movesets as we know every character ex attack will be different and we're back to pre dw6 where s-strings could be similar. i just disappointed with the variety of weapons.
It just has the same icon , the rappier of LIU CHAN and YAUAN SHAO is totally difference
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I love how people have a hard time visualizing Liu Chan fighting yet 13 year old girls (Qiao's) are believable?

Bottom line once the Qiao's were in, all bets were off.

The only DW that actually had warriors-only was Dynasty Warriors I and even then you have Zhuge Liang and some others that didn't really fight.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:55 pm
Ti-eL
Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:49 pm
oh wait! the screenshots are there! silly me. liu bei and zhuge liang looks really good. xiahou ba is better without the helmet. liu chan with rapier is not bad. xiao qiao is out of place.

i'm not worry about cloned movesets as we know every character ex attack will be different and we're back to pre dw6 where s-strings could be similar. i just disappointed with the variety of weapons.
It just has the same icon , the rappier of LIU CHAN and YAUAN SHAO is totally difference
you mean the design? yes i'm aware of that but that doesn't mean the movesets will be totally different
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:55 pm
I love how people have a hard time visualizing Liu Chan fighting yet 13 year old girls (Qiao's) are believable?

Bottom line once the Qiao's were in, all bets were off.

The only DW that actually had warriors-only was Dynasty Warriors I and even then you have Zhuge Liang and some others that didn't really fight.
The Qiaos are supposed to be older than what they look. Furthermore, DW kinda has a "manga" graphic style.

It might sounds strange, but I have way less problem to imagine, in all fairness, Xiao Qiao fighting with a fan than to imagine a "retard" (Not like I want to taunt anyone, but I can't find a better english word to describe it) fighting with a rapier.

At least, even if Xu Zhu's portrayed as an idiot, he still has a weapon matching his intellect, not requiring much skill to be of use.
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I saw the screenshots, CG models, and Voices last night, and I have to say Dong Zhuo looks really terrifying up close O_o....... And I'm kind of disappointed he doesn't have a club for an EX weapon :(.... Oh well.

As for the Liu's, Bei looks really cool with those twin blades, however it looks similar to Lu Xun, hopefully just the regular attacks are similar. Also Bei's JP voice scares me O.o

Xiahou Ba looks amazing with his Giant Sword :D and I love it that he wears a helmet.
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Well...If anyone is curious...In the new screenshots, Zhuge Liang is doing moves that look completely different than Zhuge Dan's & Sima Yi's. Also, Zhuge Liang seems to have wind-based attacks back!

Oh, and....I BOUGHT THE PS3 VERSION OF DW7 YESTERDAY OFF OF GAMESTOP! Now we play the waiting game...I can't wait to see you guys online ;p
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Ok, the Qiao's are supposed to be older. So let's say they're 19 year old females fighting giant warriors. Again, you're already talking a situation that it is no more realistic than Down Syndrome Liu Chan hacking away.

It's cool though. The shock value of Liu Chan will go away just like we've all gotten used to the teenager Qiao's being competitive in battle with warlords.
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A little weapon summ-up.
Does it miss anything so far?
Does anyone has the crossbow as his/her ES weapon?
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 pm
Ok, the Qiao's are supposed to be older. So let's say they're 19 year old females fighting giant warriors. Again, you're already talking a situation that it is no more realistic than Down Syndrome Liu Chan hacking away.

It's cool though. The shock value of Liu Chan will go away just like we've all gotten used to the teenager Qiao's being competitive in battle with warlords.
DW isn't a pretty realist kind of game anyway.

We have cool warriors, male and female, fighting with various weapons, some of them quite unusual indeed, possessing either great strength, great intellect, great skill...

And we have Liu Shan. A rapier-wielding simpleton. Can you possibly imagine playing him with those completely over the top epic metal songs playing in the background ?
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So what if the game has Qiaos fighting on the front lines. It is beleivable considering the game.

This is the same game series where people can stay in the air for longer than humanley possible and also shoot fireballs and lazer beams.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:01 pm
Well...If anyone is curious...In the new screenshots, Zhuge Liang is doing moves that look completely different than Zhuge Dan's & Sima Yi's. Also, Zhuge Liang seems to have wind-based attacks back!

Oh, and....I BOUGHT THE PS3 VERSION OF DW7 YESTERDAY OFF OF GAMESTOP! Now we play the waiting game...I can't wait to see you guys online ;p
Its up for pre-order?! I have to buy it NOOOOOWWWZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!

And haha, I thought you wanted the XBox version! XD
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Neo is not amused by DW7 xD Man..Why did the clone talk have to come up again? I thought the last video we got dispelled those rumors already, and yet it rears it's ugly head right back up again, and everyone panics.

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Lord Yuan Shu
Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:55 pm
I love how people have a hard time visualizing Liu Chan fighting yet 13 year old girls (Qiao's) are believable?

Bottom line once the Qiao's were in, all bets were off.

The only DW that actually had warriors-only was Dynasty Warriors I and even then you have Zhuge Liang and some others that didn't really fight.
k. we get the point; you don't like the Qiaos =.="
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:53 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:45 pm
The thing that worries me is that we're having a lot of duplicate weapons. Now Sima Shi, Yuan Shao, and Liu Chan have rapiers. It will be a miracle if Koei gave everyone a unique moveset
The only bad thing here is that Liu Shan has a rapier.

I can't even imagine him fighting, I mean, wasn't he mentally retarded ? He would probably be more of a threat to himself than to the enemy.

Don't get me wrong, his design is nice (perfectly represents the young and careless noble type), but he should have been an UNPC, nothing more.
You know...if they make Liu Shan as a UNPC, I'm sure a lot of people are going to complain 'cause they can't play as him.
Koei just try to sattisfy as many players as possible with the character roster (mainly to apologize about DW6 beeing catastrophic). Sure there will always be people complaining on things such as : "Why is Sanniang in as Liao Hua is not ?", and it will always be like this, whoever is going to be added.

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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:11 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:01 pm
Well...If anyone is curious...In the new screenshots, Zhuge Liang is doing moves that look completely different than Zhuge Dan's & Sima Yi's. Also, Zhuge Liang seems to have wind-based attacks back!

Oh, and....I BOUGHT THE PS3 VERSION OF DW7 YESTERDAY OFF OF GAMESTOP! Now we play the waiting game...I can't wait to see you guys online ;p
Its up for pre-order?! I have to buy it NOOOOOWWWZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!

And haha, I thought you wanted the XBox version! XD
The good thing about buying it off of GameStop now is that they won't charge your credit card until the game actually ships ^^ I got overnight shipping, so I gotta pay $76.10 And I bought the PS3 version so I could play with all of my friends on here. If I can't change the music on the PS3, I'll just use headphones or buy the Xbox 360 version later.. Are there people who really have both versions of games? I don't think that's tooweird.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:16 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:11 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:01 pm
Well...If anyone is curious...In the new screenshots, Zhuge Liang is doing moves that look completely different than Zhuge Dan's & Sima Yi's. Also, Zhuge Liang seems to have wind-based attacks back!

Oh, and....I BOUGHT THE PS3 VERSION OF DW7 YESTERDAY OFF OF GAMESTOP! Now we play the waiting game...I can't wait to see you guys online ;p
Its up for pre-order?! I have to buy it NOOOOOWWWZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!

And haha, I thought you wanted the XBox version! XD
The good thing about buying it off of GameStop now is that they won't charge your credit card until the game actually ships ^^ I got overnight shipping, so I gotta pay $76.10 And I bought the PS3 version so I could play with all of my friends on here. If I can't change the music on the PS3, I'll just use headphones or buy the Xbox 360 version later.. Are there people who really have both versions of games? I don't think that's tooweird.
Oh ok I see, well then I guess I'll buy it with overnight shipping to my house as well! And in the meantime I'll have to get some PSN friends added so I can play everyone online :D

And well I don't have a choice, I HAVE to buy it on the PS3, however if I had both, I'd probably just stick with the PS3 haha.

On a side note, you guys are really still talking about clones? Ugh... Give it a rest will you? It really doesn't matter if there are clones or not really, is it going to stop you from playing the game just because Zhang Jiao and Pang Tong have the same move set?
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:07 pm
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 pm
Ok, the Qiao's are supposed to be older. So let's say they're 19 year old females fighting giant warriors. Again, you're already talking a situation that it is no more realistic than Down Syndrome Liu Chan hacking away.

It's cool though. The shock value of Liu Chan will go away just like we've all gotten used to the teenager Qiao's being competitive in battle with warlords.
DW isn't a pretty realist kind of game anyway.

We have cool warriors, male and female, fighting with various weapons, some of them quite unusual indeed, possessing either great strength, great intellect, great skill...

And we have Liu Shan. A rapier-wielding simpleton. Can you possibly imagine playing him with those completely over the top epic metal songs playing in the background ?
Okay people, when did I ever say I didn't like the Qiao's. Saying the Qiao's are not realistic in battle is not a subjective / opinion statement, it is fact. I was using them as an example to explain why using someone who is not fit for battle (Liu Chan) is nothing new to the series. So I'm not quite sure why I'm getting the lecture about how anything goes for this series as far as people on the battlefield; that's what I was explaining to Solf about Liu Chan... :facepalm:
Edited by Lord Yuan Shu, Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:28 pm.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 pm
Ok, the Qiao's are supposed to be older. So let's say they're 19 year old females fighting giant warriors. Again, you're already talking a situation that it is no more realistic than Down Syndrome Liu Chan hacking away.

It's cool though. The shock value of Liu Chan will go away just like we've all gotten used to the teenager Qiao's being competitive in battle with warlords.
DW isn't a pretty realist kind of game anyway.

We have cool warriors, male and female, fighting with various weapons, some of them quite unusual indeed, possessing either great strength, great intellect, great skill...

And we have Liu Shan. A rapier-wielding simpleton. Can you possibly imagine playing him with those completely over the top epic metal songs playing in the background ?
Yes, I absolutely can imagine him doing all that with this background, seeing as he wasn't a retard in the first place first of all.

Qiaos are literally depicted at 17 and 16 year old girls respectively, on top of that, they fight with fuggin fans.

I have no problem imagining Liu Shan fitting in with this game when we have people immeasurably more undeserving of the warrior status.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:55 pm
I love how people have a hard time visualizing Liu Chan fighting yet 13 year old girls (Qiao's) are believable?

Bottom line once the Qiao's were in, all bets were off.

The only DW that actually had warriors-only was Dynasty Warriors I and even then you have Zhuge Liang and some others that didn't really fight.
the only thing that makes me question Liu Chan's ability to fight will be how can he if hes high the whole time! i'll never be able to take this character seriously now.

you say Liu Chan---> i say HIGH!
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haha yea he kind of does look ripped...a cross between that and down syndrome.
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I can't believe clone talk is back! Anyway, this may make alot of people mad, but I actually like Liu Chan! He looks awesome. Maybe, since they've changed alot of the history, they'll portray him not as an idiot, but as a person who wants to live up to his father, but simply can't physically and mentally!
And I like Xiahou Ba better with the helmet on!
And could anyone post the link to the screenshots, they don't seem to be up yet on KW's main site.
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Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:55 pm
I love how people have a hard time visualizing Liu Chan fighting yet 13 year old girls (Qiao's) are believable?

Bottom line once the Qiao's were in, all bets were off.

The only DW that actually had warriors-only was Dynasty Warriors I and even then you have Zhuge Liang and some others that didn't really fight.
the only thing that makes me question Liu Chan's ability to fight will be how can he if hes high the whole time! i'll never be able to take this character seriously now.

you say Liu Chan---> i say HIGH!
It makes me like him that much more.

Xu Zhu is a retard and Liu Shan is high, no problem. :XD
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is it me, or does JP xiao qiao sound like an evil loli?
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My opinion on the character reveals:

Zhang He - THANK GOD they got rid of the heels, back to his old self

Xiao Qiao - YOUR LAUGH WILL HAUNT MY DREAMS!! Scary as hell lol

Xiahou Ba - Love that he will be fighting with his helmet on, looks awesome!!

Zhuge Liang - Looks really cool, I like the voice aswell

Liu Bei - Looks older, sounds more serious, really impressed

Liu Chan - Really like his look aswell, interested to see how Koei will portray his character.

Dong Zhou - Not as scary as Xiao Qiao lol
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