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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,945 Views)
MysteriousStranger08
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Solf Aetheral
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:32 pm
I'm still hoping Wen Yang is added at the last minute
I don't want to break it to you, but DW7 is probably almost gold. We might have him as DLC though.
Yeh I suppose, but still, a guy can hope :)
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Solf Aetheral
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To be honest, I don't care much about him, he's overrated to me.
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MysteriousStranger08
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Well if Koei are gonna add Guan Suo and Bao Sangiang, there hardly doing any harm adding Wen Yang
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If Zuo Ci did exist (which is a no already >_<), would koei give him Wang Yuanji's and Zhu Rong's weapon, but change it to cards xD
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:41 pm
I have learned that DLC characters will never bear the same depth and quality as the real deal... Mass EFfect 2 is a good example of how DLC Characters compare to the real deal.

That and what's the point of Wen Yang if he doesn't get his stage where he owns Sima Shi's face?
Only if Jia Chong gets added and owns Chen Tai. :P
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Anyway, it was never told that there will be DLC characters available. There there will perhaps not. And even if there were, there will probably 2/3, the "Other" being the most likely to receive new characters. For the rest, simply wait for Dynasty Warriors 8.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:41 pm
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:38 pm
MysteriousStranger08
Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:32 pm
I'm still hoping Wen Yang is added at the last minute
I don't want to break it to you, but DW7 is probably almost gold. We might have him as DLC though.
I do not even see why he would be available in DLC. Many people expect that KOEI add plenty of additional characters at the Wu, Shu, Wei and Jin. I find that the "Other" are most likely to have DLC characters. Maybe 2 or 3. Personally, I do not expect more DLC characters. KOEI will surely keep them aside for DW8.
I don't expect any characters coming as DLC for DW7, maybe there will be extra scenarios for chronicle mode as DLC.
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Dr_smooth
Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:52 pm
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:41 pm
Solf Aetheral
Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:38 pm
MysteriousStranger08
Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:32 pm
I'm still hoping Wen Yang is added at the last minute
I don't want to break it to you, but DW7 is probably almost gold. We might have him as DLC though.
I do not even see why he would be available in DLC. Many people expect that KOEI add plenty of additional characters at the Wu, Shu, Wei and Jin. I find that the "Other" are most likely to have DLC characters. Maybe 2 or 3. Personally, I do not expect more DLC characters. KOEI will surely keep them aside for DW8.
I don't expect any characters coming as DLC for DW7, maybe there will be extra scenarios for chronicle mode as DLC.
Yes. I think that would be more reasonable. The costumes will surely also present.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:06 am
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:55 am
Sidenote@ Liu Xuande is looking WAY better this game. Just needs that 'tache back :D
...So maybe you will like the picture I made as a joke for a friend XD. Posted Image
He almost looks like Cao Cao there :mellow: well maybe if he was younger :lol:
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I can honestly see Wen Yang becoming like Jin's Cheng Pu. Widely wanted but for some reason KOEI don't seem to agree. Admittedly Wen Yang has more merit to be in, but in the end we don't get to decide.
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Overrated? He appears near the end of the novel and than his fate is left a mystery after he joins Jin as a General. Hell, in the fall of Wu many of the Jin Generals aren't even named or explained why they were choosen for the assualt. Knowing Du Yu he only picked those of merit/talent yet those talents are left unsung.

The sad thing is that since he appears so late that he's actually very 'underrated'. How many here knew about Wen Yang before just last year but are avid DW fans? Not many it seems when I started exploring a bit.
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More merit ?

I fail to think about a single officier who deserves more to become an unique character than Cheng Pu.

Edit : By overrated, I meant overrated by the fans, not by Luo Guan-Zhong.
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Well Koei has already stated that there would only be one more Jin chracter, and then Ba was shown....so no more Jin characters. Unless they lied.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:58 pm
More merit ?

I fail to think about a single officier who deserves more to become an unique character than Cheng Pu.
I can... plenty... and I'm not even close to a Cheng Pu hater. I actually often defend him when people hate on him for little to no reason.
Edited by Liu Bei 7, Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:02 pm.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:59 pm
Well Koei has already stated that there would only be one more Jin chracter, and then Ba was shown....so no more Jin characters. Unless they lied.
I do not really feel they understand. :mellow:

BUT yes, Xiahou Ba seems finally to the last character added to Jin.
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More merit ?

I fail to think about a single officier who deserves more to become an unique character than Cheng Pu.
Well as far as I know, other than serving Sun Jian and sons for a very long time, he didn't really have any major feats or achievements to note.

Though TBH, I don't have the best knowledge of history, so I'd be glad to know if there was things that I havent heard of.
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His skills with a Serpent Spear (his was famous) were said to be unmatched. He was the one who adviced Sun Jian to keep the Imperial Seal, avenged Sun Jian, got Huang Zu with Gan Ning, commanded with Zhou Yu at Chi Bi, defeated Cao Ren, and save Sun Quand at He Fei.

That's quite a full of achievements life.
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The problem with Cheng Pu is that there are 'other' offices of equal or more merit as him and lived around the same time period and partcipiated in many of the same battles and are already in. Wen Yang on the otherhand has no other characters of his time of equal or more merit than him for what he did or the battles he participiated in. Which was to rebel against Jin.

Gongsun Yuan? Sima Yi owned him in one battle that wasen't really a battle but merely a game to Sima Yi on how easy and quickly he won.

Guanjia Whatever? He didn't win any major battles in his small rebellion and the sole success of his rebellion was accomplished by a lone Wen Yang who caused Sima Shi's death and paved the way for Sima Zhao to rule.

Zhuge Dan? Put down rebellions, hounded as the Dog(His talents are nowhere near the equal of Zhuge Liang or Zhuge Jin), didn't do anything of merit till after Zhuge Liang died, and he didn't score a single noteworthy victory in his rebellion. Hell, his inability to listen to advise was the main thing that doomed his rebellion. Wen Yang's defection merely quickened his fall.

Since we know that Koei mentioned another of Zhuge Dan's time and we all know that Xiahou Ba had defected long before Zhuge Dan's rebellion and had nothing to do with the guy we can only assume that either Wen Yang or Jia Chong will get added in. Wen Yang as the warrior without equal for his time and Jia Chong the prized strategist/advisor/politician.


Cheng Pu is like Liao Hua. Great on paper untill you start adding in all the others that are already in and did similiar things as them but with much more skill an awesomeness.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:00 pm
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:59 pm
Well Koei has already stated that there would only be one more Jin chracter, and then Ba was shown....so no more Jin characters. Unless they lied.
I do not really feel they understand. :mellow:

BUT yes, Xiahou Ba seems finally to the last character added to Jin.
They might be teasing us but really they have a secret character last revealed in the last batch before the games out, which would be Wen Yang, that would be good
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:05 pm
His skills with a Serpent Spear (his was famous) were said to be unmatched. He was the one who adviced Sun Jian to keep the Imperial Seal, avenged Sun Jian, got Huang Zu with Gan Ning, commanded with Zhou Yu at Chi Bi, defeated Cao Ren, and save Sun Quand at He Fei.

That's quite a full of achievements life.
You're making it sound like all of those were single-handed achievements. Yep, he won battles alone. Chuck Norris type deal. He was important, but so was Yuan Shu. Nobody else left is truly better than everyone.
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His skills with a Serpent Spear (his was famous) were said to be unmatched. He was the one who adviced Sun Jian to keep the Imperial Seal, avenged Sun Jian, got Huang Zu with Gan Ning, commanded with Zhou Yu at Chi Bi, defeated Cao Ren, and save Sun Quand at He Fei.

That's quite a full of achievements life.
Several of them feel like things similar to other officers feats, or slightly minor. I can see Cheng Pu ending up like Huang Gai with a spear to be honest.
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I think that Cheng Pu would be nothing a Huang Gai˛, this is only my opinion.
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Cheng Pu has these against him...

1) Huang Gai can fill in as the veteran of Wu who served with Sun Jian.
2) The Sun sons are always the one credited in DW games as avenging their father.
3) Huang Zu isn't even in some of the DW games and even than it isn't huge. The star here always ends up being either Sun Quan or Gan Ning.
4) Zhou Yu, Pang Tong, Zhuge Liang, and Huang Gai already fill the Chibi role just fine. What would he add? Especially since Zhou Yu is almost always credited as the sole leader of the Allied Forces.
5) Cao Ren's long hold out isn't even in all the games and is seen as a minor affair that Zhou Yu is usually sent to deal with.
6) Ling Tong saved Sun Quan at He Fei. He's the one who guarded Sun Quan's rear at the cost of grave injuries and was the one who pulled Sun Quan to safety when Zhang Liao ambushed him while Gan Ning provided a stream of arrows as back up just as Zhang Liao smacked around Lu Meng and Xu Sheng along with plenty of others.


As I said, Wu already has plenty of characters that lived during Cheng Pu's time, took part in the same battles, and even accomplished the same, if not greater, merits than him. So? What's the point of adding him compared to another character who doesn't have their accomplishments shared? Such as another woman, Lu Kang, or even Xu Sheng who was quite independent though with Ding Feng in his chances shrank greatly.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:07 pm
but so was Yuan Shu.
I completely agree. It's unbelievable that Yuan Shu is still a generic.

I'd like the Yuan brothers to have their own faction. They both gave officers deserving more than just being generics.
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Just seen the update to the EU site.

Seems it will be Liu Shan instead of Liu Chan....no biggie though. Also looks as though Koei are going to portray him as a person who many underestimate when he will actually be a good leader in the game: "mistakenly feel he is slow and foolish"
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