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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,943 Views)
SazukeEX
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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By the DW6 movesets you mean the few non-clones... Right?
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bluebolting
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Yep. I liked Lu Xun's moveset in DW6 too :3
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garnix
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Fantaji
Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:13 pm
In any case, I feel that some are not satisfied with 15 new characters. Do not expect 20 new characters. 2 new characters seems more correct. It remains 2/3 sets of scans. A new character per set, 2/3 new characters.

In a sense I am in a hurry as it ends, I find that there are too many complaining.
First I thought the same thing.
And then they revealed Liu Shan and Xiahou Ba the same week.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:31 pm
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:15 pm
garnix
Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:55 pm
D.Key
Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:47 pm
Yeahhhh Lu Xun an Liu Bei share the same moveset... :/ Posted Image Posted Image
One move look similar. It doesn't necessary means that they have the exact same movesets. Stop with this guys. I personnaly prefered Lu Xun with twin blades, and the same goes for Liu Bei. I'm fine with this ! And I'm sure the moves won't be the same. EDIT : And who knows, they may have change Lu Xun's move since they took the screenshot. (I don't think so but it remains possible)
Personally I really liked Lu Xuns moveset in DW6. I was very unique at least
Well people cried and wined how "bad" DW6 was so they just went back to the old moveset and changed a few things. I personally like the most of the moveset in 6 but who am I right? I mean lets make everyone flat and half brain dead again.
Yeah lets all go back to DW6 where you got to hit one button over and over again and effectively that would allow access to everything every single characters moveset had to offer and even then that wasnt much considering at least a third of them had exactly the same movesets at one of the other characters you already played to unlock them in the first place.

Charge attacks are not braindead... you had the variation of range attack charges, area attack charges as well as other variations allowing characters to have more adaptability. With Dian Wei for example he had something for every situation before... with DW6 he simply swung his flail around and if someone broke his combo, he would have to again start swinging his flail around and repeat the same process for the entire game - the vast majority condemned the DW6 combat and for good reason... the fact people fear clones like never before is all down to the black sheep abomonation that was DW6 for the series.
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D.Key
Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:47 pm
Yeahhhh Lu Xun an Liu Bei share the same moveset... :/

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They have different EX attacks and different second Musou and Aerial Musou attacks...

So the only thing that is 'cloned' is the S String attack. Or they could have totally different movesets and that could just be the weapon switch attack which is the same for every weapon in the same class.

Don't jump to conclusions too quickly people!
Edited by ZhugeEX, Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:56 pm.
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JayHawk
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If you guys want to talk about clones... There's a separate discussion thread for that.
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garnix
Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:52 pm
Fantaji
Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:13 pm
In any case, I feel that some are not satisfied with 15 new characters. Do not expect 20 new characters. 2 new characters seems more correct. It remains 2/3 sets of scans. A new character per set, 2/3 new characters.

In a sense I am in a hurry as it ends, I find that there are too many complaining.
First I thought the same thing.
And then they revealed Liu Shan and Xiahou Ba the same week.
That doesn't really prove anything, just because we got Liu Shan and Xiahou Ba in the same scan doesn't mean we'll get two in the next or two more after that. Jia Xu was the sole single new character shown in the previous scan, its still possible that with only a couple of scans left, we'd get a single new character in each one.

I also have to admit with things shaping up the way they are, it does make sense in terms of the rumored list that Guan Suo would show up while we still await Guan Yu & Ping. The same could be said with Lady Bu while we still await Sun Quan & Jian.
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SRS
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Expect Guan Suo to appear with Yu and Ping, and Bu Furen to appear with Sun Quan.

BY THE WAY

What the HELL guys, didn't I already tell you before Koei did NOT "announce there was 1 more Jin character" or say "from Zhuge Dan's era" that was all what I said interpreting the info off the official Japanese site. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII. NOT KOEI. And I already went through this entire spiel before explaining this and it's the SAME PEOPLE dispersing the same misinformation!

Stop. Doing. This!
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Blossom555
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when i was watching the PV Xiahou Dun wa holding 2 chakrams so SSX has 2 chakrams :)
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Edited by Blossom555, Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:22 pm.
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garnix
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GuardianAlexio
Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:10 pm
garnix
Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:52 pm
Fantaji
Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:13 pm
In any case, I feel that some are not satisfied with 15 new characters. Do not expect 20 new characters. 2 new characters seems more correct. It remains 2/3 sets of scans. A new character per set, 2/3 new characters.

In a sense I am in a hurry as it ends, I find that there are too many complaining.
First I thought the same thing.
And then they revealed Liu Shan and Xiahou Ba the same week.
That doesn't really prove anything, just because we got Liu Shan and Xiahou Ba in the same scan doesn't mean we'll get two in the next or two more after that. Jia Xu was the sole single new character shown in the previous scan, its still possible that with only a couple of scans left, we'd get a single new character in each one.

I also have to admit with things shaping up the way they are, it does make sense in terms of the rumored list that Guan Suo would show up while we still await Guan Yu & Ping. The same could be said with Lady Bu while we still await Sun Quan & Jian.
I didn't write this to say you there are more then 3newcomers left, but for the following reason :
nobody knows about the final roster.


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Expect Guan Suo to appear with Yu and Ping, and Bu Furen to appear with Sun Quan.


Why ? You are not Koei. How do know this ? =D
Anyway, if the rumor list is true, it's obvious you're right ;)
Seraphil, from your godly point of view, in %, what are the chances of the rumor list to be true ?
Edited by garnix, Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:29 pm.
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RujiAso
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Everyone keeps convincing themselves we know more than we do.

No one knows anything, everything is a maybe.

The game could come out and have all the weapons limited off to certain characters, zhange he could be supergay fabulous and hitting on xiahou yuan, liu shan being badass, everyone being clones of everyone else, lawsons outfit being yuanji's main outfit, the pens don't exist, the chibi figures are promotional only, everyone not yet revealed is cut, the story is taking a turn for the fictional fantasy, cao cao morphs into an ice phoenix after chi bi and rules his subjects through the jin dynasty with magic telepathy, zhou yu and his bo-staff turn into goku and become super saiyan 3, also the entire system scrapped for a 1-on-1 fighter like dw1 was, suddenly it's being published by EA, PC only, underwater controls, escort missions, TIMED PUZZLES, ONLINE TROPHIES REQUIRED FOR PLATINUM, RENBU RETURNS, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

oh my god i think i just described something worse then hell itself...
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SRS
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Pfft, you think nobody on KW knows anything? You haven't been here all that long have you, eh... :sly:
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Yang Xiu
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Boy, that was sinister sounding, But seriously though, I've believed you the whole time. Which is unfortunate because I hoped you were completely wrong. Lady Bu? LADY BU?!!
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Seraphil
Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:28 pm
Pfft, you think nobody on KW knows anything? You haven't been here all that long have you, eh... :sly:
that was just the start of my exaggeration explosion :cool:

Edit: to be on topic at all--

So many people latch onto certain things, like when something can mean 'singular or multiple', or 'may or may not', they grip one side with either for fear or wish it is true... Wizards first rule up in here. When it could be either one, so for that specific thing, we're not sure, we might be 70% sure, but in my experience in Trpgs, 70% is a horrible hit chance (unless you're the computer)
Edited by RujiAso, Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:40 pm.
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garnix
 
Why ? You are not Koei. How do know this ? =D
There are other sources that this rumor can come from, you realize that right? Famitsu most likely knows what character they are going to be featuring in their magazine in advance. VA's and Seiyuu's can also be a source for a leak or rumor. Considering we got the SW3 Motonari rumor IN DETAIL from a member here at KW because she knew a VA.
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Been looking back over the new characters just now, can't get over how awesome Zhuge Liang and Liu Bei look! Seriously the fan weapon just looks amazing compared to all the others. Sure its like the simplist designed weapon but i love it!

This game is really shaping up to be a great improvement on 6. I just hope it gets some advertising out of Japan for once. I've never seen a DW advert in the UK at all and thats one of the reasons it hasn't sold well. I've shown people (some have played DW before, some haven't) the PV and they loved it and said they would buy it after watching the video/checking the features.

If they advertised here i could see a surge in sales.
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SRS
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Why ? You are not Koei. How do know this ? =D


It's just logical in this case. Liu Shan was shown with Liu Bei instead of Liu Bei being shown with his brothers. Considering there's not all that many characters left and there's generally at least a couple guys each reveal that are related to each other in some fashion... (Sun Ce and Zhou Yu, Deng Ai and Zhong Hui and Jiang Wei, etc.)

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Seraphil, from your godly point of view, in %, what are the chances of the rumor list to be true ?


With courage, even 1% becomes 100%!
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:14 pm
garnix
Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:55 pm
D.Key
Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:47 pm
Yeahhhh Lu Xun an Liu Bei share the same moveset... :/

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One move look similar. It doesn't necessary means that they have the exact same movesets.
Stop with this guys.

I personnaly prefered Lu Xun with twin blades, and the same goes for Liu Bei.
I'm fine with this !
And I'm sure the moves won't be the same.

EDIT : And who knows, they may have change Lu Xun's move since they took the screenshot. (I don't think so but it remains possible)
Kinda getting annoying repeating this but I'll simplify this...there will be an difference, a big difference.
I've said this before and I'll say it again THIS IS PROBABLY A SWITCH ATTACK.
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:38 pm
garnix
 
Why ? You are not Koei. How do know this ? =D
There are other sources that this rumor can come from, you realize that right? Famitsu most likely knows what character they are going to be featuring in their magazine in advance. VA's and Seiyuu's can also be a source for a leak or rumor. Considering we got the SW3 Motonari rumor IN DETAIL from a member here at KW because she knew a VA.
Yes I know about this.
The fact is that I didn't see anywhere what the origin of this rumor list is.
I just know it's from someone on 2ch, but from where did he get his information ? is it a reliable source ?
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It is pretty sucky that Wei only has Jia Xu as a new character unless you count Cai Wenji who appeared before in Strikeforce.
does it really make any sense that the kingdom that was historically the largest of the 3 to have the least amount of characters?
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Sum Gai
Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:43 pm
It is pretty sucky that Wei only has Jia Xu as a new character unless you count Cai Wenji who appeared before in Strikeforce.
does it really make any sense that the kingdom that was historically the largest of the 3 to have the least amount of characters?
Most of the officers (if not all of them) under the "Jin" kingdom are technically Wei officers since KOEI's version of the "Jin kingdom" is actually "later era Cao Wei".
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SRS
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Only a stupid person posts what his source is if he's leaking information. If he said he got it from an employee or if he worked at Koei, someone could get in trouble.

In fact, most people here don't seem to realize the Famitsu scans we get - while I don't think it's out-and-out illegal - are still being distributed before the magazine's publication. That's why they're "leaks" or as Japanese forum goers call them "Flying Gets" because you're seeing information before you're supposed to know.

There's already been a movement by some guys from 2ch's DW7 thread to start blacklisting some people on Twitter for distributing the pics or talking about them while use the #smusou6 tag, which is pretty much shining a light into Koei's face saying "HI KOEI WE HAS ALL THIS INFO AND STUFF WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PLEASE AXE THE GUYS WHO TOOK THE RISK TO FIRST SHOW THEM TO US."
Edited by SRS, Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:50 pm.
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Ah DW is using seals (pretty much like ups in DW5)
Looks interesting, although I think getting character upgrades will be pretty easy if they keep the normal attack + charge (attack, hit them up) and get +10 attack :D
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i love the bow in all DW games
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Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:50 pm
i love the bow in all DW games
Don't make your first post spam. Hopefully your second post is not. :beard:
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