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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:59 pm
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:22 pm

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That's what I wanted to say with my inacurated words xD
I do hope it returns, really I hope they can return his weapon, wei yan's Dynasty Warrior 5 weapon, Cao Pi's weapon, Xu Huang's great axe, and the whip.
Wei Yan's double-voulge is already confirmed. At least on the last screenshot of Xing Cai. It's definitely his weapon. A little dream comes true. About the others, i dunno. Even i doubt it. Xu huang will have most probably the weapon in the intro-video (that chain-weapon).
The talk about that chain mace he has is the fact that the group with him has it as well, and that it was showing off different weapons plus he couldnt reach zhao yun with any other weapon but who knows most likely it might be his weapon.
And why didn't they simply put Cao Ren in instead of Xu Huang? Cao Ren even has the appropriate weapon to catch Zhao Yun. The fact that the other two soldiers carried the same weapon doesn't have to mean anything. But seeing Xu Huang carrying the weapon when everyone else (Xiahou Dun,Xiahou Yuan,Sima Shi,Sima Zhao,Guan Yu,Zhang Fei) carried their EX weapons as well (Yes,Zhao Yun picked up two different weapons,but he had his spear again at the end on the bridge) is a clear indication that Xu Huang is going to use a chain and ball,as lame as it sounds (I personaly would like him to get his axe back,but it just doesn't look like he's going to have it).
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:38 pm
wait doesnt Zhang Fei also have the two sided spear thing.....(cant memba its name) but yeh or does he have his spear from DW5 back....
I could imagine, that he shares (at least) the same weapon-type like Wei Yan. Or even Cao Pi, if he gets his old double-sided-sword back.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:52 pm
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:38 pm
wait doesnt Zhang Fei also have the two sided spear thing.....(cant memba its name) but yeh or does he have his spear from DW5 back....
I could imagine, that he shares (at least) the same weapon-type like Wei Yan. Or even Cao Pi, if he gets his old double-sided-sword back.
so wei yan might still get a stupid weapon....or maybe theres two types of it...one thats thin and one thats thick.....i dont want wei yan like he was in DW5... that mask was stupid....i liked him in DW6 but maybe tweek a little to look better and a bit softer in heart....
hopefully wei yan does not get that bell hammer thing...that was just plain stupid.....looked like he cud ring a bell in a church or sumet with that thing :D
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Roz3y
Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:38 pm
wait doesnt Zhang Fei also have the two sided spear thing.....(cant memba its name) but yeh or does he have his spear from DW5 back....
I could imagine, that he shares (at least) the same weapon-type like Wei Yan. Or even Cao Pi, if he gets his old double-sided-sword back.
so wei yan might still get a stupid weapon....or maybe theres two types of it...one thats thin and one thats thick.....i dont want wei yan like he was in DW5... that mask was stupid....i liked him in DW6 but maybe tweek a little to look better and a bit softer in heart....
hopefully wei yan does not get that bell hammer thing...that was just plain stupid.....looked like he cud ring a bell in a church or sumet with that thing :D
Oh man, i guess you're the only one, who likes the DW6-Wei Yan more than the former one :D . But about his DW6-weapon, we have all the same opinion. Yeah, it looked a bit like a big bell.

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Wei Yan: "Eat....this."
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RE: Sun Quan's wives. None of them were particularly noteworthy in terms of historical significance or popular culture value. The only one I'd like to see added would be Lady Yuan, because having her around might make Yuan Shu's inclusion more likely. That, and I think it'd be pretty neat if she was a stern, serious warrior chick loyal to her father but slowly started growing attached to Sun Quan after Yuan Shu's death. All the other wives don't really have that interesting a story.
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Lady Yuan would be 10x more useful to Koei than Lady Bu. As I said, Lady Bu has no relations with anyone besides Sun Quan and Bu Zhi.

Most of the females are nice / kind, so that Lady Bu is a caring person doesn't really stand out. Imagine the personality of a Yuan in a female; I think that'd be good for the story, and as the Little Conqueror says, would be the perfect way to introduce Yuan Shu's forces with some other playables (Ji Ling and Yuan Shu are the obvious ones but having a female would help especially early on in their creation). Anytime you can aid in the introduction in a new force, that's a big boost in your credentials in terms of being a playable DW character as far as I'm concerned (ie getting the most out of your character adds).
Edited by Lord Yuan Shu, Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:55 pm.
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Just wondering, what makes Lady Yuan so special over lady Bu? Once agian I'm just wondering. ^_^
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Basically what I just said in the post above but I'll use different words to explain it to you, I guess. ^_^

Lady Bu has Sun Quan. That's it for her relations; she's just going to hang around him. Lady Yuan has her relationship with Sun Quan / Wu that she can have too, but she is more dynamic of a character as she could be a part of Yuan Shu's army as well (and not only enhance Yuan Shu's forces but also be a key part in the relationship between the Yuan's and Sun family as well).

You need these DYNAMIC characters, that have multiple roles and can enhance multiple parts of the RTK story. Not these one trick ponies who follow their husbands around; it's lazy to choose someone in that situation when there is so much more you can add to the story.
Edited by Lord Yuan Shu, Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:16 pm.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:04 pm
Just wondering, what makes Lady Yuan so special over lady Bu? Once agian I'm just wondering. ^_^
Basically the Yuan Shu connection. It would well open the window for his inclusion, and develop an interesting Yuan/Sun relationship.

Other than that, they both would be aboutthe same.
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I think it would be interesting to see Zhang Fei's wife. She was Xiahou Yuan's daughter, kidnapped as a teenager while gathering firewood. She doesn't need to be a playable character, I just think it would be neat if she showed up in a cutscene or something. She's Xing Cai's mother and it would be interesting to see a mother/daughter relationship amongst all the father/son ones.
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Interesting Marysonnie. If that's true, well, we got robbed with Bao Sanniang; I'd much rather have Zhang Fei's wife if she had Wei ties too.
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:15 pm
I think it would be interesting to see Zhang Fei's wife. She was Xiahou Yuan's daughter, kidnapped as a teenager while gathering firewood. She doesn't need to be a playable character, I just think it would be neat if she showed up in a cutscene or something. She's Xing Cai's mother and it would be interesting to see a mother/daughter relationship amongst all the father/son ones.
I don't think Xing Cai/Zhang Fei/The mother would really have a nice relationship, since 2/3 (or even 3/3?) are angry want to kill everything people
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:15 pm
I think it would be interesting to see Zhang Fei's wife. She was Xiahou Yuan's daughter, kidnapped as a teenager while gathering firewood. She doesn't need to be a playable character, I just think it would be neat if she showed up in a cutscene or something. She's Xing Cai's mother and it would be interesting to see a mother/daughter relationship amongst all the father/son ones.
I don't think Xing Cai/Zhang Fei/The mother would really have a nice relationship, since 2/3 (or even 3/3?) are angry want to kill everything people
Really? Xing Cai the angry type? :blink:

She's always come across being a gentle foil to her aggressive father.
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Ok read up on the two Quan Wives Mention, Id go with Lady Bu, yes she wasn't empress but was acknowledge as one, also i believe he truly loved her or wouldn't have buried her the way he did, must be very important to place in such a specific place. Oh and also the fact that she was seen as one even thou not officially an empress, she can really be a moral riser.

Lady Yuan dosent have much to work off of (besides being the daughter of Yuan Shu) also she was murdered HELLO!!!!!!!!!!....
bad thing to put cause technically they will halfta add Lady Pan (who btw is a b i t c h) who slandered her to Sun Quan, also to picture Sun Quan killing her no thanks.

All in all cant take away from the fact that Sun Quan is least fav of the Sun family ( not to mention i agree with the whole no persona some one quoted earlier), hope this time SSX sticks him with an arrow like she was suppose to in DW6 (or better Chakram him if that possible), sry but Sun Quan also came off to me as a Prick lol
Edited by Yared Ninja, Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:34 pm.
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Sometimes she's listed as Xiahou Yuan's niece, sometimes his daughter, but Lady Xiahou was a captive bride. I'll decide on Bao after I've played as her...but I'd rather have Pang De back than any new female add (except Cai Wenji, but she's not technically new)
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:52 am
I remember a while back there was a rumour on 2ch that costumes from DW4 & 5 would be DLC. Does anyone know if this was said by the same guy who provided the roster leaks?
I just randomly thought of it and I'm hoping the source is credible.. I seriously need to play as Zhen Ji with her DW4 costume in HD. :rolleyes:
I second this. They can fit so much on a Blu-Ray disc!

Although, I wish that rumor encompassed DW3 costumes too...

The reason for blue rays MASSIVE size is JUST for uncompressed 'Hd'(lol) Audio!

No idea where people get the idea they get more! It's the same with hd-DVDs and blue ray! Was just the audio :)))

So don't get your hopes up!
Um....are you saying that blu rays hold as much as HD-dvd? or plain dvd?

Omg I hope I read you wrong cuz you sound horribly ignorant right here. Do some research. I work in film and film is shot in 2000k which for an hour movie is about 100 gigs. Its then compressed to around 30gigs for blu ray. The audio is taken from a mixer seperate from video and usually only fills around 500 megs if that! If you add Dts and dolby 7.1 it goes to around 1 gig....

A dual layer blu ray is 50gigs......hd-dvd was a waste as it was only a lil bigger then dvd.

Now on the topic of this game, they could of made massive amounts of levels, costumes, all kinds of stuff.....but then they announced it for 360.....so no such luck. Since the 360 is stuck with dvd
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Now on the topic of this game, they could of made massive amounts of levels, costumes, all kinds of stuff.....but then they announced it for 360.....so no such luck. Since the 360 is stuck with dvd
I have an important question since you said, it's urgent...


DLC right?
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Now on the topic of this game, they could of made massive amounts of levels, costumes, all kinds of stuff.....but then they announced it for 360.....so no such luck. Since the 360 is stuck with dvd
I have an important question since you said, it's urgent... DLC right? :whistle:
one of the first things confirmed i think ^_^
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:20 pm
Lady Yuan dosent have much to work off of (besides being the daughter of Yuan Shu) also she was murdered HELLO!!!!!!!!!!....
bad thing to put cause technically they will halfta add Lady Pan (who btw is a b i t c h) who slandered her to Sun Quan, also to picture Sun Quan killing her no thanks.

All in all cant take away from the fact that Sun Quan is least fav of the Sun family ( not to mention i agree with the whole no persona some one quoted earlier), hope this time SSX sticks him with an arrow like she was suppose to in DW6, sry but Sun Quan also came off to me as a Prick lol
Well, that's a compelling way to die I guess. Remember Lady Bu died early too so they'll be fabricating her story too if they have her live long. They could cut the murder scene out or make it PG, DW-style. Either way like I said, Lady Yuan or Lady Bu they'd be fabricating the story and having them live longer than they should anyway, so how their deaths occurred in the novel isn't entirely relevant to how they would play out in this game.

Lady Yuan might just have the Yuan Family ties outside of her Sun Quan relationship, but what then does Lady Bu have? Her relationship with Sun Quan, and being hailed as an empress... even though she died young (so, not quite sure how that equates to her having more value in the series). Maybe Sun Quan loved her more, but again, what else does she bring to the other 60+ characters? Nothin...

And the 800 pound elephant in the room is that Koei said Wu Kingdom Musou Mode would not go late in the years. This is why I put more value to Lady Yuan because early on she is capable of so much more relationship / story wise than Lady Bu. So while they'll probably be in battles vs. Jin in Jin's musou mode, it's possible their kingdom mode doesn't go as far (Koei implied as much at least). That's a big hit to what Lady Bu can do, as her late-years stuff would be what could propel her character.
Edited by Lord Yuan Shu, Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:45 pm.
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Now on the topic of this game, they could of made massive amounts of levels, costumes, all kinds of stuff.....but then they announced it for 360.....so no such luck. Since the 360 is stuck with dvd
I have an important question since you said, it's urgent... DLC right? :whistle:
one of the first things confirmed i think ^_^
Yea I knew but just showing that still is a possibility :hehe:
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Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:59 pm
Regarding Sun Quan's wife, there's gotta be a reason among all of them, it's THAT one that would be in the game.

Like what was said, this wife Lady Bu was known for her humility. So likely if she were in the game she'd be along the lines of Yue Ying, rather then a Grade A witch like Zhen Ji or a plucky child wife like Xiao Qiao.

Only question is what this would mean for Quan himself. The guy practically has NOTHING in terms of personality already.
Woah woah.
I thought, historically speaking, Zhen Ji was a kind person? I read somewhere that after an earthquake she helped clothe and feed the homeless and provided shelter for them?

But in the game, she comes off a little psychotic. But she's still my favoriteeee :)
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Zhen Ji's personality + character are probably more of an indictment on Wei being the 'heels' / bad guys than anything else.
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Regarding Sun Quan's wife, there's gotta be a reason among all of them, it's THAT one that would be in the game. Like what was said, this wife Lady Bu was known for her humility. So likely if she were in the game she'd be along the lines of Yue Ying, rather then a Grade A witch like Zhen Ji or a plucky child wife like Xiao Qiao. Only question is what this would mean for Quan himself. The guy practically has NOTHING in terms of personality already.
Woah woah. I thought, historically speaking, Zhen Ji was a kind person? I read somewhere that after an earthquake she helped clothe and feed the homeless and provided shelter for them? But in the game, she comes off a little psychotic. But she's still my favoriteeee :)
Actually she is kind in a way to the people of her kingdom but coldhearted to the other characters. ^_^ Welcome to KOEI Forums!
Edited by Lady Emilie, Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:58 pm.
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That's true! I guess they added their own character to her to make her stand out a little more. I just thought that Diao Chan seemed a little too innocent when she was a calculating and secretive person in real life. But oh well!

And thank you !!
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They have to do what they can to make these female characters more interesting. While being renowned as beautiful or a humanitarian is fine and all it doesn't make for a convincing argument for them to be in the game. With a made-up persona they become much more tolerable.
Edited by Squidlipticus, Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:28 pm.
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