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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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Any kind of major update on characters is fine by me.
I would prefer that they reveal Sun Jian and Gan Ning, though. I'm more curious to the returning characters' designs than more new characters (we've kinda seen a lot of those already lately...)
And I thought Sun Ce would be in charge of Wu's leadership doing the Jin's presence.
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Yeah...I wanna see huge blizzards in the snow levels, where you can see the snow blowing crazily all over, and it obscures your vision, thus making it harder to see where enemies are coming from (and those damn arrows from the archers!)

That'd make the game that much more challenging & immersive.
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:06 pm
I know this won't probably happen, but I want to see stages that crawl with life. I want to see butterflies on flowers, birds chirping in trees, carp swimming in ponds..

I want to see snow that falls and sticks to the players' armor, and rain that slides off or gathers in puddles...

Maybe if DW had a different maker then Koei, that would happen. Sometimes, it's the little things that truly make a game shine.

I bet if the people who did Uncharted 2 helped with DW7, the stages would be bursting with beauty.
Yeah, that is, what maybe all fans (like me) want to see. More, much more detailed/lively stages. The first part of your post sounds maybe to peaceful for a dw-game. But anyway, your post is most agreeable. Especially the part about the "worth of little things" sounds very good to me. Because i think the same about dw-games.
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:26 pm
Chen_Stormstout
Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:19 pm
Any kind of major update on characters is fine by me.
I would prefer that they reveal Sun Jian and Gan Ning, though. I'm more curious to the returning characters' designs than more new characters (we've kinda seen a lot of those already lately...)
And I thought Sun Ce would be in charge of Wu's leadership doing the Jin's presence.
Are you joking? Sun Ce dies 34 years before the start of Jin in this game.
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:27 pm
Yeah...I wanna see huge blizzards in the snow levels, where you can see the snow blowing crazily all over, and it obscures your vision, thus making it harder to see where enemies are coming from (and those damn arrows from the archers!)

That'd make the game that much more challenging & immersive.
And ranged enemies like those bomb throwing bombadier or whatever you call those guys.

Edit: I know Sun Ce died way back. He got shot by a poison arrow and that's how he died in a young age. If I remember the one that shot the poison arrow was Taishi Ci's old ruler's men, if you know what I mean. I don't remember he's ruler before. Was it Huang Zu?
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Chen_Stormstout
Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:19 pm
Any kind of major update on characters is fine by me.
I would prefer that they reveal Sun Jian and Gan Ning, though. I'm more curious to the returning characters' designs than more new characters (we've kinda seen a lot of those already lately...)
And I thought Sun Ce would be in charge of Wu's leadership doing the Jin's presence.
Are you joking? Sun Ce dies 34 years before the start of Jin in this game.
THAT, and I just don't think they're gonna cut out Sun Jian...
I mean...well, it's not really "strategically" wrong to do, but...come on! It's Sun Jian!
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:32 pm
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:26 pm
Chen_Stormstout
Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:19 pm
Any kind of major update on characters is fine by me.
I would prefer that they reveal Sun Jian and Gan Ning, though. I'm more curious to the returning characters' designs than more new characters (we've kinda seen a lot of those already lately...)
And I thought Sun Ce would be in charge of Wu's leadership doing the Jin's presence.
Are you joking? Sun Ce dies 34 years before the start of Jin in this game.
THAT, and I just don't think they're gonna cut out Sun Jian...
I mean...well, it's not really "strategically" wrong to do, but...come on! It's Sun Jian!
I wonder how old would he be during that time if Koei adds him :?: . Possibly 71 with a face similar to Lu Meng. :/
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Yukimazan
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:41 pm
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:32 pm
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:26 pm
Chen_Stormstout
Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:19 pm
Any kind of major update on characters is fine by me.
I would prefer that they reveal Sun Jian and Gan Ning, though. I'm more curious to the returning characters' designs than more new characters (we've kinda seen a lot of those already lately...)
And I thought Sun Ce would be in charge of Wu's leadership doing the Jin's presence.
Are you joking? Sun Ce dies 34 years before the start of Jin in this game.
THAT, and I just don't think they're gonna cut out Sun Jian...
I mean...well, it's not really "strategically" wrong to do, but...come on! It's Sun Jian!
I wonder how old would he be during that time if Koei adds him :?: . Possibly 71 with a face similar to Lu Meng. :/
am I missing something here? xD

Sun Jian will never get even close to Jin, nor will Sun Ce, die wayyyy before x3
Sun Quan shouldn't really make it to the end either IIRC
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:06 pm
I know this won't probably happen, but I want to see stages that crawl with life. I want to see butterflies on flowers, birds chirping in trees, carp swimming in ponds..

I want to see snow that falls and sticks to the players' armor, and rain that slides off or gathers in puddles...

Maybe if DW had a different maker then Koei, that would happen. Sometimes, it's the little things that truly make a game shine.

I bet if the people who did Uncharted 2 helped with DW7, the stages would be bursting with beauty.
That would be awful. Dowright nightmarish.

If Uncharted 2 people made a Dynasty Warriors, only one character would be playable (the others would be unlocked as skins after the story is completed) , there would be no co-op outside of a tacked on version of it using multiplayer maps, co-op would be nothing more than a small skirmish in restricted small maps, and anyone else playable would be just skinned version of the main character. And there would be very few weapons.


And there would only be a few enemies per level. And the maps would be super linear, tighter and smaller with less reasons to replay them. And the story and character designs would be ultra dull, generic and boring.


I would not trade the great things Koei makes happen in DW series for extra eye candy in the enviornment

A Naughty Dog Uncharted 2/3 team version of Dynasty Warriors would be the Final Fantasy XIII of Dynasty Warriors. All graphics, not enough content, character selection, unique weapon movesets and freedom.
Edited by saner, Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:55 pm.
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Are you joking? Sun Ce dies 34 years before the start of Jin in this game.
THAT, and I just don't think they're gonna cut out Sun Jian...
I mean...well, it's not really "strategically" wrong to do, but...come on! It's Sun Jian!
I wonder how old would he be during that time if Koei adds him :?: . Possibly 71 with a face similar to Lu Meng. :/
am I missing something here? xD

Sun Jian will never get even close to Jin, nor will Sun Ce, die wayyyy before x3
Sun Quan shouldn't really make it to the end either IIRC
True. Sun Jian was killed during an ambush in the valleys or mountain and Kuai Liang was the one that set the scheme up. And that's REALLY way back before. If Koei adds Sun Jian in a time like this, I think they are just giving another "life" to them. <_<
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Okay I've been reading the updated English site and they Cao Pi dies young leaving a new insecure Emperor who fears the Simia family and its influence. Could this mean Cao Rui or another possible Wei add?
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:26 pm

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Are you joking? Sun Ce dies 34 years before the start of Jin in this game.
THAT, and I just don't think they're gonna cut out Sun Jian...
I mean...well, it's not really "strategically" wrong to do, but...come on! It's Sun Jian!
I wonder how old would he be during that time if Koei adds him :?: . Possibly 71 with a face similar to Lu Meng. :/
am I missing something here? xD

Sun Jian will never get even close to Jin, nor will Sun Ce, die wayyyy before x3
Sun Quan shouldn't really make it to the end either IIRC
Yeah, seriously. Maybe they're confused with the whole Kingdom Mode tidbit and think it's like DW4 where there will be one, consistent ruler for Wu. Koei's debunked that and pretty much said that there won't be any extensions to character's lives.

Sun Jian and Sun Ce will definitely be dead before the very thought of Jin is muttered into Sima Zhao's mind, I'm sure.

Why so much neglect for poor Sun Quan?

Also, I agree fullheartedly with saner. There's no need for that depth of graphics, especially when more people are going to want to focus on the gameplay and characters than butterflies fluttering about (tell Zhang He to get back to his stages).

It'd be like the revamps of Star Wars... only thing they added in was pointless padding. Did we really need to see a CGI frog eating a CGI bug at Degoba (sp)? Was that SO important that you had to rush out and rererelease the damn movie?
Edited by ChibiGingi, Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:58 pm.
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Okay I've been reading the updated English site and they Cao Pi dies young leaving a new insecure Emperor who fears the Simia family and its influence. Could this mean Cao Rui or another possible Wei add?
Maybe. I wouldn't have suspected Cao Rui, but who's going to continue Wei during the big battle between all *four kingdoms*?
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Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:55 pm
Okay I've been reading the updated English site and they Cao Pi dies young leaving a new insecure Emperor who fears the Simia family and its influence. Could this mean Cao Rui or another possible Wei add?
Maybe. I wouldn't have suspected Cao Rui, but who's going to continue Wei during the big battle between all *four kingdoms*?
theres gunna be a big battle between all four kingdoms?
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Okay I've been reading the updated English site and they Cao Pi dies young leaving a new insecure Emperor who fears the Simia family and its influence. Could this mean Cao Rui or another possible Wei add?
Maybe. I wouldn't have suspected Cao Rui, but who's going to continue Wei during the big battle between all *four kingdoms*?
Well, considering Jin is basically later Wei (and one Shu? XD), I could see Koei simply using Cao Rui as a generic, but an important generic like Liu Chan in DW5. Or, he could be the last playable character for Wei, though the very thought of a 'weak' member of the Cao family strikes me as tragic.

It's not farfetched to think he might be a new character, since we're doing the same with Liu Chan and Guan Suo... but still, I wouldn't hold my breath yet.
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I just think little artistic touches would make the stages feel more dynamic & lived-in, because some of the stages are pretty stale, and use the same artistic motif (and a lot of the buildings look the same...not everywhere in China has the same exact architecture)
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Okay I've been reading the updated English site and they Cao Pi dies young leaving a new insecure Emperor who fears the Simia family and its influence. Could this mean Cao Rui or another possible Wei add?
Perhaps Cao Shuansang if I remember correctly although he was killed by Sima Yi's scheme. This is also one reason why Xiahou Ba defected to Jiang Wei: revenge against the Simas.

And I think Cao Pi might not appear from the game since they said he died young, which is like 6 years around when Liu Bei wanted to destroy Wu for killing Guan Yu. So it's such a pity. :sad: But it's just a guess. We'll see when it Koei gives more info.

If they remove Cao Pi, I might wanna put my loyalties to Jin. (Or not.) ;)
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I just think little artistic touches would make the stages feel more dynamic & lived-in, because some of the stages are pretty stale, and use the same artistic motif (and a lot of the buildings look the same...not everywhere in China has the same exact architecture)
Yeah, I understand that much, but the average gamer isn't going to sit back and enjoy the view of the scenery, especially if it's suppose to be an action game. In some games it's nice (Uncharted, Enslaved, etc), but really, the only thing I'm concerned with them improving in a DW game is the combat, the animation, and the overall story (but that's more of an after thought compared to the rest).

I guess so long as they don't go overboard with it, like in Star Wars.

Edit: Cao Pi, cut from the game? Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Not only would the history nuts riot, but the fangirls and fanboys would rush the KoeiTecmo headquarters and tear the place asunder.

I doubt Cao Pi's getting cut. Just probably a shorter lifespan.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:14 pm.
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Edit: Cao Pi, cut from the game? Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Not only would the history nuts riot, but the fangirls and fanboys would rush the KoeiTecmo headquarters and tear the place asunder.
:lol: :lol: :lol: You know, i have a very good imagination power. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Edited by ThreeKingdomsWarrior, Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:17 pm.
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Edit: Cao Pi, cut from the game? Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Not only would the history nuts riot, but the fangirls and fanboys would rush the KoeiTecmo headquarters and tear the place asunder.

I doubt Cao Pi's getting cut. Just probably a shorter lifespan.
Ya I don't think they would do that no Cao Pi, no Zhen Ji
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I just think little artistic touches would make the stages feel more dynamic & lived-in, because some of the stages are pretty stale, and use the same artistic motif (and a lot of the buildings look the same...not everywhere in China has the same exact architecture)
Yeah, I understand that much, but the average gamer isn't going to sit back and enjoy the view of the scenery, especially if it's suppose to be an action game. In some games it's nice (Uncharted, Enslaved, etc), but really, the only thing I'm concerned with them improving in a DW game is the combat, the animation, and the overall story (but that's more of an after thought compared to the rest).

I guess so long as they don't go overboard with it, like in Star Wars.

Edit: Cao Pi, cut from the game? Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Not only would the history nuts riot, but the fangirls and fanboys would rush the KoeiTecmo headquarters and tear the place asunder.

I doubt Cao Pi's getting cut. Just probably a shorter lifespan.
:lol: Then let's just hope they better change what they say in the site cause if any of Cao Pi's fan sees it, here comes trouble.
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Okay I've been reading the updated English site and they Cao Pi dies young leaving a new insecure Emperor who fears the Simia family and its influence. Could this mean Cao Rui or another possible Wei add?
Maybe. I wouldn't have suspected Cao Rui, but who's going to continue Wei during the big battle between all *four kingdoms*?
Well, considering Jin is basically later Wei (and one Shu? XD), I could see Koei simply using Cao Rui as a generic, but an important generic like Liu Chan in DW5. Or, he could be the last playable character for Wei, though the very thought of a 'weak' member of the Cao family strikes me as tragic.

It's not farfetched to think he might be a new character, since we're doing the same with Liu Chan and Guan Suo... but still, I wouldn't hold my breath yet.
Very true, it justs seems a bit odd to mention Cao Pi dying young leaving *a new insecure emperor who fears the Sima's power* Plus, Cao Pi DID die not too far from Cao Cao, so I could see Cao Rui there if they don't intend to expand Cao Pi's life so much. Although I shouldn't hold my breath as well.

@Randomguysayshi: Seraphil mentioned this a while from a tweet which he also told us about wu having their focus in early era, perhaps in v2/v3? I'm sure it going to be for Someone's ending, if not all of them; which would explain not so many lare era Wu characters.
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Edit: Cao Pi, cut from the game? Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Not only would the history nuts riot, but the fangirls and fanboys would rush the KoeiTecmo headquarters and tear the place asunder.

I doubt Cao Pi's getting cut. Just probably a shorter lifespan.
Ya I don't think they would do that no Cao Pi, no Zhen Ji
For DW3 and DW4 there was Zhen Ji but no Cao Pi and I guess you could say she did ok without him....

But nevertheless, KOEI would never cut Cao Pi. I think KOEI has learned their lesson from cutting characters in DW6, I am sure of that.

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I know this won't probably happen, but I want to see stages that crawl with life. I want to see butterflies on flowers, birds chirping in trees, carp swimming in ponds..

I want to see snow that falls and sticks to the players' armor, and rain that slides off or gathers in puddles...

Maybe if DW had a different maker then Koei, that would happen. Sometimes, it's the little things that truly make a game shine.

I bet if the people who did Uncharted 2 helped with DW7, the stages would be bursting with beauty.
That would be awful. Dowright nightmarish.

If Uncharted 2 people made a Dynasty Warriors, only one character would be playable (the others would be unlocked as skins after the story is completed) , there would be no co-op outside of a tacked on version of it using multiplayer maps, co-op would be nothing more than a small skirmish in restricted small maps, and anyone else playable would be just skinned version of the main character. And there would be very few weapons.


And there would only be a few enemies per level. And the maps would be super linear, tighter and smaller with less reasons to replay them. And the story and character designs would be ultra dull, generic and boring.


I would not trade the great things Koei makes happen in DW series for extra eye candy in the enviornment

A Naughty Dog Uncharted 2/3 team version of Dynasty Warriors would be the Final Fantasy XIII of Dynasty Warriors. All graphics, not enough content, character selection, unique weapon movesets and freedom.
Uh. I'm pretty sure he said 'helped make it' not 'make it exactly like Uncharted was'.

Lol.

It's not like they'd completely change the entire series if another team helped develop the game. :l

Lets not get too carried away here.
Edited by Tessen, Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:24 pm.
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