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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,839 Views)
dancingswan
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Frayling0
Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:21 am
dancingswan
Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:20 am
Frayling0
Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:11 am
Yer it's weird they'd pick such a random guy to cut like Pang De, when he could really have a few dramatic scenes in his key battles like Fan Castle. On the other hand, people like Bao Sanniang and Guan Ping are allowed to remain while contributing very little. I understand the entertainment side of Koei's games, it's just a bit random is all...
Though I may not like those two. (Sanniang, and Ping.)
They did nothing to halt Pang De's add. They are Shu. Pang De is Wei, Koei must have some sort of reason he wasn't added. (It would be a super lame one.)
If you want to say someone "stole his thunder" blame a Wei character, not Shu characters. Just saying. :mellow:
Ok then. Cai Wenji? Is she vital to any of the Three Kingdom era battles? I just don't understand Koei's game sometimes, but that's the way they roll...
You said it earlier. E-n-t-e-r-t-a-i-n-m-e-n-t.
History nuts usually don't like DW, and prefer ROTK for that reason.

All you can really do is pray.
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Little Conqueror of Jiang Dong
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You can't really blame Jia Xu for Pang De not returning, as Jia Xu is one of those "should've been added a while ago" people. Cai Wenji, perhaps, but she's an interesting enough persona and a unique enough character (she won't be one of those "following her husband" around types, that's for sure - her husband's not even a generic most likely) to warrant inclusion, at least by KOEI's "culturally significant Three Kingdoms people" criteria.
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I am a true Pang De fan as well, and I'm sure many of you know that already, since I've been ranting about how the whole "Pang De being cut" topic ever since I played him in DW5.

Pang De was a TRUE Dynasty Warrior.... He fought out on the battlefield with everything he had, and was loyal to the very end with all his masters, Ma Teng, Ma Chao, Zhang Lu and Cao Cao. He was a knight of honor and duty, however KOEI portrayed him as a slow and boring character in DW5, although he deserves much more than that.

So if they DO exclude him from DW7, I will surely be very pissed off haha, although I will then hope for him to make an entrance in DW7XL or DLC. However if they do include him just as a generic officer, thats just offensive to me.

Pang De deserves a spot in DW7 more than a lot of other characters IMO. So I joined the Pang De restoration society ^_^
You should too if you agree with me!!!!
Edited by JayHawk, Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:26 am.
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Frayling0
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To be fair, I've got nothing against Bu Furen at all. In fact, I'll be happy to see another female character, I like the mixture of genders.

I just think our poor Pang De is perfectly justified to stand his ground ;)
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Lord Yuan Shu
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The big takeaway from the Little Conqueror's point is that Tong Gate in particular would feel really weird for me playing and not seeing Pang De. Even with Ma Dai a playable, Tong Gate was always classic because Pang De and Ma Dai had extremely beefed up defenses and it the battle was just intense (well, DW4 it was kinda lame. But Tong Gate was the **** in DW3 and it got a lot of focus in DW5 too).

That said they better put those stages in this one like Tong Gate. Was very disappointed it wasn't in 6.
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I really hope that Pang De is released tomorrow so all these Pang De fanatics can give it a rest holy crap I liked him, but I didn't get attached because he was in one game so please Koei release his design tomorrow and please please please don't change anything about him I fear these fanatics will have a heartattack/stroke if he doesn't measure up to their standards
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I 100% believe Tong Gate will return, but whether it's going to be Kingdom or Conquest based I'm not sure. I completely agree though. Even Fan Castle didn't feel the same in 6 without Pang De. 5 just made him feel part of the furniture on that stage.
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Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:24 pm
Frayling0
Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:12 pm
Excuse me, but would you like to explain why living in Serbia is the highlight of this page? Slightly inappropriate that you find it so funny...?
I was listing off all the one-line, off-topic posts on that page. Being from Serbia is cool but posting one line about it isn't really relevant to the Dynasty Warriors 7 page.
If you actually looked at that whole conversation that involved the phrase 'I live in Serbia', it was referring to the release of the scans and time zones. I do think after a while the train of thought that conversation took was open to interpretation and misinterpretation (if the whole conversation from the beginning wasn't read).
Thanks, was just going to say that :) He was mentioning where he lived to explain time zones and famitsu scan releases.
Frayling, when I looked at that conversation, that Lord Yuan Shu was referring to by only focusing on one line that by itself looks off topic, felt the same way, but then I read it through again and understood.

Lord Yuan Shao...this is for you.
Frayling
 
Let's be careful what we call 'irrelevant' now, because you just came across as prejudiced.

^Frayling was this aimed towards me or Lord Yuan Shao?
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Valiant effort Little Conqueror of Jiang Dong :)

I do think it's a little crazy. Jiang Wei and Da Qiao are back... why not Pang De? There are other characters with little to no impact that need to justify their continued existence.
It baffles me as well as to why KOEI will use their time and money to add characters like Bao Sanniang, Cai Wenji and yet they still can't add an established character like Pang De?

(I don't mean to flame the female characters in particular, no male characters are coming to my head at the moment, sorry)

If Pang De isn't in this time around, I think KOEI better have at least a good reason as to why.
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Lord Yuan Shu
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Tong Gate should be Kingdom + Conquest. Conquest Mode for Xu Zhu, Xu Huang, Jia Xu, Cao Ren, Xiahou Yuan, Ma Chao, Ma Dai...and Kingdom Mode it would obviously be Ma Dai and Ma Chao for Shu and then not sure about Wei. I'm thinking Xu Zhu for sure, then maybe Cao Ren or Xu Huang? Could be any of the Wei guys I listed.
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pariah.
Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:29 am
I really hope that Pang De is released tomorrow so all these Pang De fanatics can give it a rest holy crap I liked him, but I didn't get attached because he was in one game so please Koei release his design tomorrow and please please please don't change anything about him I fear these fanatics will have a heartattack/stroke if he doesn't measure up to their standards
Oh, quit being so melodramatic. We don't really care if they redesign him. We just want him back.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:25 am
You can't really blame Jia Xu for Pang De not returning, as Jia Xu is one of those "should've been added a while ago" people. Cai Wenji, perhaps, but she's an interesting enough persona and a unique enough character (she won't be one of those "following her husband" around types, that's for sure - her husband's not even a generic most likely) to warrant inclusion, at least by KOEI's "culturally significant Three Kingdoms people" criteria.
Yes, Cai Wenji's persona is interesting in itself.
That, PLUS the fact that her being added to the roster who needs that kind of persona the most : Wei.
I think she's a very nice addition to that Kingdom, looking forward to see how she is in the game.

PS : Oh, and for all the haters who hate the haters...it's kinda useless, just ignore...
(Okay, now i'm hating the anti-haters....lol)
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Frayling0
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Lord Yuan Shu
Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:24 pm
Frayling0
Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:12 pm
Excuse me, but would you like to explain why living in Serbia is the highlight of this page? Slightly inappropriate that you find it so funny...?
I was listing off all the one-line, off-topic posts on that page. Being from Serbia is cool but posting one line about it isn't really relevant to the Dynasty Warriors 7 page.
If you actually looked at that whole conversation that involved the phrase 'I live in Serbia', it was referring to the release of the scans and time zones. I do think after a while the train of thought that conversation took was open to interpretation and misinterpretation (if the whole conversation from the beginning wasn't read).
Thanks, was just going to say that :) He was mentioning where he lived to explain time zones and famitsu scan releases.
Frayling, when I looked at that conversation, that Lord Yuan Shu was referring to by only focusing on one line that by itself looks off topic, felt the same way, but then I read it through again and understood.

Lord Yuan Shao...this is for you.
Frayling
 
Let's be careful what we call 'irrelevant' now, because you just came across as prejudiced.

^Frayling was this aimed towards me or Lord Yuan Shao?
Lord Yuan Shao ;)

Anyway. I have an inkling he who must not be named (as people are getting very stroppy about it) WILL be returning. I trust Koei :rolleyes:

I can't see Zuo Ci coming back though, at least not on the disc. I'm not really too bothered over him either.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:29 am
I really hope that Pang De is released tomorrow so all these Pang De fanatics can give it a rest holy crap I liked him, but I didn't get attached because he was in one game so please Koei release his design tomorrow and please please please don't change anything about him I fear these fanatics will have a heartattack/stroke if he doesn't measure up to their standards
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:31 am
pariah.
Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:29 am
I really hope that Pang De is released tomorrow so all these Pang De fanatics can give it a rest holy crap I liked him, but I didn't get attached because he was in one game so please Koei release his design tomorrow and please please please don't change anything about him I fear these fanatics will have a heartattack/stroke if he doesn't measure up to their standards
Oh, quit being so melodramatic. We don't really care if they redesign him. We just want him back.
AMEN! Hahaha.

Wow I must say, only about a month ago nobody gave a S*** about Pang De, it seems like he's getting more and more popular...

Anyways, aside from that, Pang De was great in DW5, aside from him being a bit slow, and a bit boring. He could use a little more pizazz to his personality, you know what I mean? Haha....

His best stages were Tong Gate and Fan Castle for sure... If he comes back, he deserves an awesome and dramatic cutscene of his death... In the novel, Cao Cao came to tears over his death, and Guan Yu even gave him a proper burial after asking Pang to join him.. It just shows how honorable he was.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:35 am
Anyway. I have an inkling he who must not be named (as people are getting very stroppy about it) WILL be returning. I trust Koei :rolleyes:
Stop trying to act smart and above it, I've seen you getting worked up over nothing here too. Even if you don't like the character or don't care that he's cut just ignore those of us who actually do rather than making snide comments about it.
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For all this Pang De thing...
To be honest, I'm a very big fan of Pang De.
I've just never voiced out what I feel about his absence (and apparently that absence will continue?) because I don't think that'll change anything to voice it out...at least not now.
The game's gonna be released in japan in just a little more than a month, we are gonna get it in around 2 months...
There's no way they can bring him back to us RIGHT NOW even if we (miraculously) persuaded them to.
STILL, It ain't over till it's over...nothing is certain...yet
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Well Wei technically has alot of chars added in DW7 cause most of Jin is from Wei o.O

So maybe its Wu's time to shine lol
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Tomorrow can't come soon enough.. I seriously can't wait to see Bu Furen's design and weapon. ^_^
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:42 am
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Anyway. I have an inkling he who must not be named (as people are getting very stroppy about it) WILL be returning. I trust Koei :rolleyes:
Stop trying to act smart and above it, I've seen you getting worked up over nothing here too. Even if you don't like the character or don't care that he's cut just ignore those of us who actually do rather than making snide comments about it.
I'm supporting his return. My comment was referred to the user who implied we would have a 'stroke' should Pang De not return. Thanks for your advice.
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Seriously, all my hope is going into tomorrows scans... If they release Pang De, I'll be really really really happy, if they don't and instead release Bu Furen........ I will be really really really mad..............

I'll also be excited to see all the other characters they'll release, such as Wei Yan, Xu Huang, Gan Ning, Guan Ping etc etc.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:20 am
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Yer it's weird they'd pick such a random guy to cut like Pang De, when he could really have a few dramatic scenes in his key battles like Fan Castle. On the other hand, people like Bao Sanniang and Guan Ping are allowed to remain while contributing very little. I understand the entertainment side of Koei's games, it's just a bit random is all...
Though I may not like those two. (Sanniang, and Ping.)
They did nothing to halt Pang De's add. They are Shu. Pang De is Wei, Koei must have some sort of reason he wasn't added. (It would be a super lame one.)
If you want to say someone "stole his thunder" blame a Wei character, not Shu characters. Just saying. :mellow:
In a way they could of stolen the light from him by replacing him as a character in general, since Bao Sanniang didn't even exist and by the looks of it, will probably be an annoying character with her japanese voice already making me shutter, and her english bio is enough to make me not ever want to use her.

@Sagittarius Rumored, not destined :D

@Little Conqueror of Jiang Dong

Ya, Zhang Liao totally stole his weapon >=(
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:43 am
Well Wei technically has alot of chars added in DW7 cause most of Jin is from Wei o.O

So maybe its Wu's time to shine lol
Good point.
Wei has Jin characters, as for Shu, we can already sense who's gonna be part of their late-era roster.
Wu definitely needs to shine in the late-era too!
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:43 am
Well Wei technically has alot of chars added in DW7 cause most of Jin is from Wei o.O

So maybe its Wu's time to shine lol
Yes, but they're all not going to be playable in Wei's Kingdom Mode. Wei still has the least amount of playable characters from the time period of 184 to 234, and by a noticeable amount.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 12:35 am
Anyway. I have an inkling he who must not be named (as people are getting very stroppy about it) WILL be returning. I trust Koei :rolleyes:
Stop trying to act smart and above it, I've seen you getting worked up over nothing here too. Even if you don't like the character or don't care that he's cut just ignore those of us who actually do rather than making snide comments about it.
I'm supporting his return. My comment was referred to the user who implied we would have a 'stroke' should Pang De not return. Thanks for your advice.
I all fairness you didn't sm to be in the post I quoted, but no matter. ^_^
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