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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,831 Views)
nightmare25109
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 2:32 am
So according to that list..

Wei has 13 characters
Wu has 16
Shu has 17
Jin has 9
Other has 7

Koei sure does love them some Shu! Am I right or what? Wei gets gypped again. Oh, for shame!
Shu had the lowest amount of characters in DW6, just saying. :whistle:
They probably want to catch up with Dynasty Warriors 7. :shifty:
but if we add Jin to Wei except Sima Zhao , Sima Shi nad Wang Yuang Yi we still have19 character for Wei ,because almost character in Jin is late wei
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Front page almost ruined it for me...phew :sly: But I managed not to look (: Anyways, when will the main site be updated? Tomorrow?
No, Thursday.
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Avieure, that's a good point. That's my worry is that it'll just be like Empires and you just randomly fight certain battles with no real attachment to the character.

I just want to do like 7-10 battles per character, tops, and have most of them be relevant battles for the character (battles the character was actually in). Along with coming across natural allies / enemies. So somewhat personalized, like the old musou modes. I don't think that's asking too much.
If you seen that one screen shot with Zhou Yu, he's in a Conquest stage, and he says something to Sun Ce about getting the Two Qiao's.

So I think some of the Conquest Mode stages will be catered to your chosen character, but it was also said that there'd be stages from the ROTK novel, and also 'What if?' stages.
So the whole chronicle mode is a "what if" mode for Bao,Guan Suo, and lady bu lls.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:08 am
Avieure, that's a good point. That's my worry is that it'll just be like Empires and you just randomly fight certain battles with no real attachment to the character. I just want to do like 7-10 battles per character, tops, and have most of them be relevant battles for the character (battles the character was actually in). Along with coming across natural allies / enemies. So somewhat personalized, like the old musou modes. I don't think that's asking too much.
If you seen that one screen shot with Zhou Yu, he's in a Conquest stage, and he says something to Sun Ce about getting the Two Qiao's. So I think some of the Conquest Mode stages will be catered to your chosen character, but it was also said that there'd be stages from the ROTK novel, and also 'What if?' stages.
So the whole chronicle mode is a "what if" mode for Bao,Guan Suo, and lady bu lls.
Actually for all characters. You are making your own history with your chosen hero.
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ok so this is my 1st time in forum so i apologized if i do something wrong.

now back to the main topic, The characters.

People do complain a lot about Guan Suo but it does make sense that KOEI decided to put him in. First, this means that Guan Ping is going to die at Fan Castle (like he actually did). Second, they actually screw up putting Xing Cai and Guan Ping, this lead that Guan Xing and Zhang Bao not be in the game :/ Third, if they wanted to put Guan Xing they couldn't cuz Zhang Bao is a must with him. Finally, their only option was this imaginary son of Guan Yu to take revange for his father's death and be able to fight until the end of Shu. Having Liu Chan, Guan Suo and Xing Cai would be like the new brothers(and Sister) of Shu.
PS:srry about the spelling :)
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Point is though that some of these characters have nothing to go on, so it will be entirely What If for Lady Bu, Bao Sanniang, etc

For characters that had a plethora of battles though (Zhang Liao for example) you could comprise their entire Conquest Mode with battles they were in (and have allies / enemies that he naturally fought with / against).
Edited by Lord Yuan Shu, Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:20 am.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:08 am
Avieure, that's a good point. That's my worry is that it'll just be like Empires and you just randomly fight certain battles with no real attachment to the character. I just want to do like 7-10 battles per character, tops, and have most of them be relevant battles for the character (battles the character was actually in). Along with coming across natural allies / enemies. So somewhat personalized, like the old musou modes. I don't think that's asking too much.
If you seen that one screen shot with Zhou Yu, he's in a Conquest stage, and he says something to Sun Ce about getting the Two Qiao's. So I think some of the Conquest Mode stages will be catered to your chosen character, but it was also said that there'd be stages from the ROTK novel, and also 'What if?' stages.
So the whole chronicle mode is a "what if" mode for Bao,Guan Suo, and lady bu lls.
Actually for all characters. You are making your own history with your chosen hero.
Yea I know but I meant every single thing that happens with their story mode is a what if really, right?
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Now, now, I don't want the Pang De restoration movement to be associated with hatred for any other characters. After all, Bu Furen would be a strictly Wu addition and not have any impact on the Wei roster. :P

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Pang De in DW7XL or something like that, but it would be nice if KOEI would, at the very least, allow him to be a generic NPC in the Fan Castle/Tong Gate/He Fei levels and then replace him once they add him as DLC/expansion content. Ideally, he'd be there right off the bat, but if the rumors are true and he's cut, then...
If he's in as a generic npc, that would be a huge slap in the face for me as a pang de fan.

It means he will have gotten DEMOTED.

That's TERRIBLE, and would be a first I believe. :/

I'd rather he not be in there at all if he's not playable just as he and other cut characters were completely absent in DW6.

It just suggests to me that he'll be back eventually if he's simply 'missing' altogether.
Having poked around inside the internal workings of KOEI games, it is far easier to replace an officer who already exists than it is to implement one who doesn't. Tong Gate and Fan Castle feel wrong without an officer named "Pang De" there, since he played such a big part in both battles, and it's unlikely that once he DOES get added, KOEI would go back to those battles and put him in where he belongs. Maybe if you PLAY as him, perhaps, but if you're playing as Guan Yu in Fan Castle, you won't ever have to fight an enemy named Pang De.

I'd MUCH prefer he get added back as a unique, too, but having him absent entirely is much more of a demotion than going back to NPC is.

I need someone who can write Japanese to help me. Google Translate just won't do. I can read Japanese with limited ability, but I cannot write it at all. Here is what I need:

- The phrase "Pang De belongs in Dynasty Warriors" translated into Japanese.
- The phrase "retweet this image to #smusou6" in Japanese.

The reason? There are a lot of fans on the 2ch forum who are hoping for Pang De. I know the game's a little over a month from being released, but if I can spur the Japanese fans into action, they might get KOEI to make a concession or two about our good ol' Twin Picks User, even if it's eventual DLC.

I know it's a long shot, but hey, remember when people said that we'd never get ROTK released on the PC in English?
I disagree, it is counter-intuitive in this case, but being absent from the game is not as bad as being put in as an NPC. The former option suggests that the developers are completely aware of his position and thought it would be too jarring to see a character who had prominent roles in a prior game suddenly become a generic. The latter, well, I can't put it any better than I did before. It's a demotion, nothing more nothing less. They would have figured he was simply not good enough to be playable character at present. That sends bad vibes.

It's like being layed off vs being demoted. Yeah, you still have your job, but you will have lost prestige and respect. Whereas being layed off isn't necessarily your fault.

I would have thought this even if Koei didn't already set a precedent with it in DW6, where even the nanman campaign was completely omitted since Zhu Rong and Meng Huo were gone.


As for the technical issues, I don't buy that it would be a big technical problem. Let the developers worry about it. Far more complex DLC have been released than a just a new character that will come with a few cutscenes related to him. I don't buy it at all.
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Avieure, that's a good point. That's my worry is that it'll just be like Empires and you just randomly fight certain battles with no real attachment to the character. I just want to do like 7-10 battles per character, tops, and have most of them be relevant battles for the character (battles the character was actually in). Along with coming across natural allies / enemies. So somewhat personalized, like the old musou modes. I don't think that's asking too much.
If you seen that one screen shot with Zhou Yu, he's in a Conquest stage, and he says something to Sun Ce about getting the Two Qiao's. So I think some of the Conquest Mode stages will be catered to your chosen character, but it was also said that there'd be stages from the ROTK novel, and also 'What if?' stages.
So the whole chronicle mode is a "what if" mode for Bao,Guan Suo, and lady bu lls.
Actually for all characters. You are making your own history with your chosen hero.
Yea I know but I meant every single thing that happens with their story mode is a what if really, right?
In relation to ROTK, yes. Except for Guan Suo being in the Nanman campaign.
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Point is though that some of these characters have nothing to go on, so it will be entirely What If for Lady Bu, Bao Sanniang, etc

For characters that had a plethora of battles though (Zhang Liao for example) you could comprise their entire Conquest Mode with battles they were in (and have allies / enemies that he naturally fought with / against).
Which is why it doesn't make damn sense for Pang De to be cut! He could do so much in Conquest Mode..

So could a lot of other characters. Hell, most of Conquest Mode for Sun Jian will be 'What if?' stages.
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Lord Yuan Shu
Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:08 am
Avieure, that's a good point. That's my worry is that it'll just be like Empires and you just randomly fight certain battles with no real attachment to the character. I just want to do like 7-10 battles per character, tops, and have most of them be relevant battles for the character (battles the character was actually in). Along with coming across natural allies / enemies. So somewhat personalized, like the old musou modes. I don't think that's asking too much.
If you seen that one screen shot with Zhou Yu, he's in a Conquest stage, and he says something to Sun Ce about getting the Two Qiao's. So I think some of the Conquest Mode stages will be catered to your chosen character, but it was also said that there'd be stages from the ROTK novel, and also 'What if?' stages.
So the whole chronicle mode is a "what if" mode for Bao,Guan Suo, and lady bu lls.
Actually for all characters. You are making your own history with your chosen hero.
Yea I know but I meant every single thing that happens with their story mode is a what if really, right?
Yes you and Yuan Shu are correct. But I wonder if we will have the freedom of picking the stages that have something to do with the character we choose.
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OMG! am I the only one that thinks Lu Bu looks fricken awesome??? the pic is bad and distorted but so far I for one am really a happy camper! he looks like pure evil, I cannot wait to see his CG render and him in the game!

I REALLY want to draw him now! :OMG:

TrevorxTravesty: I did not receive your friends request on my PSN :uh:

Edited by DW3Girl, Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:23 am.
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Yes most of Conquest Mode for Sun Jian and Sun Ce would be What If. But really it wouldn't be too difficult, just have them do the later Wu battles that they would naturally be in if they survived.
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._. oh, this is so depressing in a sense; I almost feel bad for liking the majority of the new characters ><

I..I just want the game XD Just to try out Kingdom and Conquest Mode and spend hours hackin and slashing and getting used to the gameplay again.
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ok so this is my 1st time in forum so i apologized if i do something wrong.

now back to the main topic, The characters.

People do complain a lot about Guan Suo but it does make sense that KOEI decided to put him in. First, this means that Guan Ping is going to die at Fan Castle (like he actually did). Second, they actually screw up putting Xing Cai and Guan Ping, this lead that Guan Xing and Zhang Bao not be in the game :/ Third, if they wanted to put Guan Xing they couldn't cuz Zhang Bao is a must with him. Finally, their only option was this imaginary son of Guan Yu to take revange for his father's death and be able to fight until the end of Shu. Having Liu Chan, Guan Suo and Xing Cai would be like the new brothers(and Sister) of Shu.
PS:srry about the spelling :)
I digg this cause it does make sense lol

Start:Liu Bei, Guan Yu, Zhang Fei

End:Liu Shan, Guan Suo, Xing Cai

Really does make sense unless I missed something, but it honstly does, I could see the producer or who ever is the deciding factor of the list(a group I'd imagine) saying this.
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OMG! am I the only one that thinks Lu Bu looks fricken awesome??? the pic is bad and distorted but so far I for one am really a happy camper! he looks like pure evil, I cannot wait to see his CG render and him in the game!

I REALLY want to draw him now! :OMG:

TrevorxTravesty: I did not receive your friends request on my PSN :uh:

But I added you ages ago, dear. It still says 'pending' >.>
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man Lu Bu look so awesome and look way different from DW5 and DW6
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ok so this is my 1st time in forum so i apologized if i do something wrong.

now back to the main topic, The characters.

People do complain a lot about Guan Suo but it does make sense that KOEI decided to put him in. First, this means that Guan Ping is going to die at Fan Castle (like he actually did). Second, they actually screw up putting Xing Cai and Guan Ping, this lead that Guan Xing and Zhang Bao not be in the game :/ Third, if they wanted to put Guan Xing they couldn't cuz Zhang Bao is a must with him. Finally, their only option was this imaginary son of Guan Yu to take revange for his father's death and be able to fight until the end of Shu. Having Liu Chan, Guan Suo and Xing Cai would be like the new brothers(and Sister) of Shu.
PS:srry about the spelling :)
This has already been said in the Shu thread. If someone must seek revenge for Guan Yu in the later era, Liao Hua (Guan Yu's surviving general who arguably holds responsibility for his death) could do a much better job of it.
Edited by Liu Bei 7, Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:29 am.
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What Liu Bei 7 said. It's a nice concept but we'd also be better off with Guan Xing / Zhang Bao as the 2nd generation Bros.
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Bao Sanniang!!!

I do agree with some points people say about her but if she is going to be a kinda Stalker for Guan Suo I just hope is going to be funny :P
If that is going to happen they better make Guan Suo at lease a little hansome, :hehe:
I do think that Guan Suo and Guan Ping are going to look different cuz Ping is adopted, while Suo is not.

By the way, has anyone notice the crossbow in the screenshots of the game and the promo video?? I notice no characters revel has it as its main weapon so I think one of the new characters is going to use it has it main weapon ^_^
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OMG! am I the only one that thinks Lu Bu looks fricken awesome??? the pic is bad and distorted but so far I for one am really a happy camper! he looks like pure evil, I cannot wait to see his CG render and him in the game!

I REALLY want to draw him now! :OMG:

TrevorxTravesty: I did not receive your friends request on my PSN :uh:

I actually agree, and draw him now :ken: j/p

But I am satisfed with his look.
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By the way, has anyone notice the crossbow in the screenshots of the game and the promo video?? I notice no characters revel has it as its main weapon so I think one of the new characters is going to use it has it main weapon ^_^
I find this weapon would be fine for Lian Shi (Sun Quan wife).
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ok so this is my 1st time in forum so i apologized if i do something wrong. now back to the main topic, The characters. People do complain a lot about Guan Suo but it does make sense that KOEI decided to put him in. First, this means that Guan Ping is going to die at Fan Castle (like he actually did). Second, they actually screw up putting Xing Cai and Guan Ping, this lead that Guan Xing and Zhang Bao not be in the game :/ Third, if they wanted to put Guan Xing they couldn't cuz Zhang Bao is a must with him. Finally, their only option was this imaginary son of Guan Yu to take revange for his father's death and be able to fight until the end of Shu. Having Liu Chan, Guan Suo and Xing Cai would be like the new brothers(and Sister) of Shu. PS:srry about the spelling :)
This has already been said in the Shu thread. If someone must seek revenge for Guan Yu in the later era, Liao Hua (Guan Yu's surviving general who arguably holds responsibility for his death) could do a much better job of it.
I now that but would not make much more sence to make Xing cai(daughter of Zhang Fei) and Guan Suo(Son of Guan Yu) the ones who take revenge over their father death?? :sly:
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I'm back... I didn't get accepted into the class afterall. :kurokan:

Anyway, does anyone here know Chinese? I'm going to paste the block of info; I've translated bits of it, and it has stuff on not just Guan Suo and Lian Shi, but also Pang Tong, Sun Jian, Diao Chan and Lu Bu, and info on the game itself(menu, stages, other aspects.) I think it says it's from someone who test played the game.
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By the way, has anyone notice the crossbow in the screenshots of the game and the promo video?? I notice no characters revel has it as its main weapon so I think one of the new characters is going to use it has it main weapon ^_^
I find this weapon would be fine for Lian Shi (Sun Quan wife).
Agreed and that would make each kingdom have a character with a ranged ex weapon. Let me know if I'm missing someone who has a rang weapon in Wu.
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