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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,828 Views)
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未公开的新角色只有两人,一个是关索,另一个是练师。练师者,吴大帝孙权追封之步皇后也。其余郭嘉文鸯等似乎不用期待了。

庞德和左慈这次“复活”失败。关平等一干旧人都在。

庞统这次的造型很土。帽子很难看。

鲍三娘和关索的剧情有点儿太那个啥。玩家可能会觉得连自己都是电灯泡。


Second info set. Leaving out the Xing Cai spoiler.
Oh hai spoiler tag.

Do it, do it, do it, do it...
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,.
BTW i dont want to hate Pange De fans mad
Nobody here is acting like Pang De is the most important character in DW. And he really does add quite a bit to several stages and characters. There's no reason to have Fan Castle without him. He also has room for plenty of interaction with Ma Chao and Dai. Also, Jiang Wei was cut at the same time as Pang De, and we didn't forget about him then either.

No, he's not as significant as a ruler, but he's far, far more relevant than Guan Suo or Lian Shi.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:50 am
Xing Cai and Guan Ping duo ruined the chance of Guan Xing and Zhang Bao...Then they made Bao Sanniang and Guan Suo... It will be sad seeing Pang De a generic... I hope Pang De returns alongside other guys that are deserving adds such as Cheng Pu and Liao Hua... Was DLC Characters confirmed? Or maybe they can add them in DW:Strikeforce 3, or Empires... Or DW8, which could be 5 years from now...
Wait, Pang De may still have a chance to get in. As i recall, Zuo Ci was anounce like a week before DW5 was release.

Another thing is that Pang De was important at Tong Gate and Fan Castle so if he does not apper in DW7 they would need to errased all the info about him in the game (or at lease the most) like they did in DW6 and that prossess can be bothersome :mellow:

I also think Having Ma Dai, Ma Chao, and Pang Tong at Tong Gate would be hard but better. Have High hopes :)
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Guan Suo? I will LITERALLY ROFL.
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Pang De is not gone yet, there's still DLC, and XL.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:07 am
I just used an online translator and I know they are not reliable but names like Guan Suo, Sun Jian and Zhang Fei were translated correctly.

The last bit said this:

Eighth, Guo Jia. Guo Jia is the populace face.


I know this is probably just the poster saying something about Guo Jia but nonetheless its interesting.
I'm bumping this cos I don't think people saw.

I know this is probably irrelevant but the person describing the characters was going through them saying

First: Guan Suo (then a description)

Finishes by saying what is written above

Eighth: Guo Jia - Quite strange

EDIT: Just seen Seraphil's post at bottom of last page
Edited by LordHale, Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:15 am.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,.
BTW i dont want to make Pange De fans mad
You know I am going to have to agree with you on this. He just never looked all that fun to play in DW5 so I never did play him. But seeing how everyone's going crazy over him like hotcakes really makes me wonder.

Also I don't want to offend any pang fans either!
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Wait a while... translation's coming up...
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:11 am
The line about Guo Jia is just confirming him as a generic.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:07 am
I just used an online translator and I know they are not reliable but names like Guan Suo, Sun Jian and Zhang Fei were translated correctly.

The last bit said this:

Eighth, Guo Jia. Guo Jia is the populace face.


I know this is probably just the poster saying something about Guo Jia but nonetheless its interesting.
I'm bumping this cos I don't think people saw.

I know this is probably irrelevant but the person describing the characters was going through them saying

First: Guan Suo (then a description)

Finishes by saying what is written above

Eighth: Guo Jia - Quite strange
As I said, it just says Guo Jia is a generic.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:11 am
The line about Guo Jia is just confirming him as a generic.
Aww. Maybe next time then.

I don't personally think they'd just namechange someone like that, especially since Guan Ping dies at Fan Castle and Guan Suo doesn't. They'd either cut Ping or include both.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,.
BTW i dont want to make Pange De fans mad
If you don't know, then don't ask such a silly question.

I don't have the energy to go into a tirade over this post.

I'll just say, that who cares about historical importance? This is about the novel, in which Pang De is a greater warrior and has a more interesting character than any of those 3 you mention--Jiang Wei is ok though, drawing with an aged Zhao Yun isn't bad.

To turn it back to you, how did you feel when Jiang Wei got cut in DW6?
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:07 am
I just used an online translator and I know they are not reliable but names like Guan Suo, Sun Jian and Zhang Fei were translated correctly.

The last bit said this:

Eighth, Guo Jia. Guo Jia is the populace face.


I know this is probably just the poster saying something about Guo Jia but nonetheless its interesting.
I'm bumping this cos I don't think people saw.

I know this is probably irrelevant but the person describing the characters was going through them saying

First: Guan Suo (then a description)

Finishes by saying what is written above

Eighth: Guo Jia - Quite strange
As I said, it just says Guo Jia is a generic.
I know I edited my post, I posted this just as your were posting yours saying he is a generic lol

I've also seen Wen Yang's name pop up and Zuo Ci's....Think it explicitly mentions that Pang De and Zuo Ci are still not in it
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,. BTW i dont want to make Pange De fans mad
Nothing you said matters at all. Congrats on posting a wall of text without an actually valid argument.
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actually it would be kinda stupid for Koei to add 2 strategists to Wei. I mean we already have Jia Xu. of well...maybe next time Guo Jia
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:13 am
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,.
BTW i dont want to hate Pange De fans mad
Nobody here is acting like Pang De is the most important character in DW. And he really does add quite a bit to several stages and characters. There's no reason to have Fan Castle without him. He also has room for plenty of interaction with Ma Chao and Dai. Also, Jiang Wei was cut at the same time as Pang De, and we didn't forget about him then either.

No, he's not as significant as a ruler, but he's far, far more relevant than Guan Suo or Lian Shi.
Im not saying that I dont like Pange De. Trust me, the more characters the better, but what bothers me is that every 3 post theres a huge complain about him being cut. I know he's more relevant that Guan Suo and Lian Shi but still. Hes not that big of a deal to make such a fuss about.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:16 am
actually it would be kinda stupid for Koei to add 2 strategists to Wei. I mean we already have Jia Xu. of well...maybe next time Guo Jia
Yeah, Jia Xu is a much better addition according to his story, I think.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:16 am
actually it would be kinda stupid for Koei to add 2 strategists to Wei. I mean we already have Jia Xu. of well...maybe next time Guo Jia
Wu has Zhou Yu, Lu Xun, and Lu Meng. (THREE!)

Shu has Kongming & Jiang Wei (Three if you count Yue Ying).

Wei could use an extra strategist or two.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,.
BTW i dont want to make Pange De fans mad
You know I am going to have to agree with you on this. He just never looked all that fun to play in DW5 so I never did play him. But seeing how everyone's going crazy over him like hotcakes really makes me wonder.

Also I don't want to offend any pang fans either!
Well, someone else's garbage can be someone else's treasure. Just because you may not like the character doesn't mean there won't be someone(s) that will.

No, he's not the most important, or popular, or even that much liked, but it's sad because he was cut before Koei really gave him a chance to GET better. If anything, they might have added him in too early, because while he did do a few notable things on his own, he needs Yu Jin to accent his badassness at Fan Castle. I mean, Guan Yu genuinely respected/feared this guy for awhile, and being the God of War, that's something, right?

I'll miss him because I liked the concept of his personality (though Koei didn't execute him to his full potential, therefor making his initial inclusion a waste), and because I see it as wasted potential.

Who knows, maybe he and Yu Jin will show up later, and this time Koei can do him right. I'll miss him, but I'm done shedding tears now.

Edit: To the person above me, you forgot Pang Tong. ^_^

I see Pang De's cut similar to the Da Qiao cut of DW6, just with a smaller, somewhat more rational (well, some of us) fanbase. Da Qiao was cut, but you'd think they had severed a crucial part of the story with how some of the fans reacted. Pang De's cut is surprisingly calm compared to THAT storm.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:21 am.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,.
BTW i dont want to hate Pange De fans mad
Nobody here is acting like Pang De is the most important character in DW. And he really does add quite a bit to several stages and characters. There's no reason to have Fan Castle without him. He also has room for plenty of interaction with Ma Chao and Dai. Also, Jiang Wei was cut at the same time as Pang De, and we didn't forget about him then either.

No, he's not as significant as a ruler, but he's far, far more relevant than Guan Suo or Lian Shi.
Well said.

And I'll also mention that Pang De WAS an important character, people just don't think of him because they refer to how he was portrayed in DW5, a pretty slow and "dull" playable character.

However if you read his biography, you'll see his TRUE importance in history, and you'll see that he has much more importance and deserves a spot much more than many characters now in DW7, like Bao Sanniang, Lian Shi, Guan Suo, Da Qiao, heck.... Maybe even Ma Dai.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:16 am
actually it would be kinda stupid for Koei to add 2 strategists to Wei. I mean we already have Jia Xu. of well...maybe next time Guo Jia
Wu has Zhou Yu, Lu Xun, and Lu Meng. (THREE!)

Shu has Kongming & Jiang Wei (Three if you count Yue Ying).

Wei could use an extra strategist or two.
You forgot Pang Tong for Shu.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:16 am
actually it would be kinda stupid for Koei to add 2 strategists to Wei. I mean we already have Jia Xu. of well...maybe next time Guo Jia
Wu has Zhou Yu, Lu Xun, and Lu Meng. (THREE!)

Shu has Kongming & Jiang Wei (Three if you count Yue Ying).

Wei could use an extra strategist or two.
You can count Pang Tong for Shu as well but he is just very short lived.

Edit: Liu Bei 7 beat me to it.
Edited by Yawnier, Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:21 am.
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Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:09 am
Why do people care so much about Pang De. I honestly dont see why he' so important. He was on e of my least favorite characters in DW5. People are so ungrateful. I bet that if Koei would of cut some actual important characters like Jiang Wei, Cao Pi, Sun Ce, ect.., people would completely forget about Pang De being cut. The fact is that we actually have fantastic things coming in dw7 but people always have to complain. I know some pople like Pange De, idk why, but let it go. He's probably not gonna be in dw7 so let it go! People make it seem like Pang De is the most important character in DW and that its a tragedy that he's gone. He's not a Liu Bei, Cao Cao, etc...,.
BTW i dont want to hate Pange De fans mad
Nobody here is acting like Pang De is the most important character in DW. And he really does add quite a bit to several stages and characters. There's no reason to have Fan Castle without him. He also has room for plenty of interaction with Ma Chao and Dai. Also, Jiang Wei was cut at the same time as Pang De, and we didn't forget about him then either.

No, he's not as significant as a ruler, but he's far, far more relevant than Guan Suo or Lian Shi.
Im not saying that I dont like Pange De. Trust me, the more characters the better, but what bothers me is that every 3 post theres a huge complain about him being cut. I know he's more relevant that Guan Suo and Lian Shi but still. Hes not that big of a deal to make such a fuss about.
The whole Pang De argument is much larger than just Pang De. It's the removal of a character with great potential and historical/novel relevance, and the addition of another arbitrary wife and two completely fictional characters that's causing frustration. Koei's choices regarding characters are occasionally spotty, and news of Pang De's continued absence and Guan Suo/Lady Shi's inclusion arrived at the same time, which threw up a big red flag with a lot of members here.
Edited by Flyentology, Tue Feb 1, 2011 5:23 am.
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Damn, coming to terms with the roster being finalized and no Yuan Shu through 7 dynasty warriors games.
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不是标题党。因为今天我看到图了,从台湾同学的PSP上。

他的朋友参加了356的测试,带出了几张游戏截图。但有保密条约,大家都懂得的。所以有关消息来源神马的,我已经解释过了。

图只有选人界面,没有游戏场景。

选人画面很像战国无双3。中间一个长条,长条里是细长的人脸图标。画面其余部分是所选角色的大半身像(头顶到大腿)。很有张力的那种。不同的地方在于,画面左面还有一个竖条,上面写着“魏蜀吴晋他”。画面风格偏向于4代,黄沙风。角色名是黑体字,“魏蜀吴晋他”是篆体。那几个篆体字单写出来,估计一般人都不认识。

在我看到的图中,很多人脸图标还是问号,所以没看到全部有些角色。PSP那画面,就算从图标里看见了几个人,也看不清楚。不过,关键的几位都看得很清楚。

下面具体说说。

一、关索。简单来说是阳光大男孩,练体育的。上衣穿的是无袖体操服,就是拳皇96里二阶堂红丸那种衣服,紧口圆领,露肩无袖。某些女子体操服也是那种设计。不知我这样的描述是否清楚。脸嘛,一看就是关平的弟弟(虽然没血缘),头发是黑色,短发(从正面看是这样),没胡子。表情是灿烂微笑状。

二、练师。御姐(出乎意料)。衣服暴露度比较高,但不及鲍三娘。但凶器貌似比王元姬还凶猛(权儿啊……你不是妹控么……)。上衣是抹胸铠甲,类似于《决战1》里女骑铳兵的样子。有点露腰。下面是和鲍三娘差不多的造型。但大腿以下穿什么就不知道了,选人画面不显示,猜测可能是半长靴。头发黑色,高盘头。总的来说,是鲍三娘的裸妆+御姐涂红版。台湾同学很喜欢,我个人对此没啥感觉。

三、吕布。黑色为主,突出肌肉感,第一眼看上去我还以为是战国无双1的织田信长。

四、庞统。那个很“土”的帽子,是日本僧人常见的斗笠。确实很普通。

五、貂蝉。没看到。据同学描述,这次的貂蝉造型是历代中他比较欣赏的。说是衣服很漂亮。我猜测可能是比较飘逸,映衬吕布的肱二头肌。

六、孙坚。在小图标里看到的。依旧白发,但貌似没那么“冲冠”。

七、张飞。据说,张飞这次的基本武器和魏延一样,都是双头刀。也就是说,双头蛇矛和双头刀在本作中是同一种东西。

八、郭嘉。郭嘉是大众脸。
Not under topic. Because I've already seen pictures from my Taiwanese classmate's PSP.

His friend took part in 356 test(not sure what is it LOL), and took some screenshots from it. But it's under a security treaty(umm..meaning it's not supposed to be revealed I guess).

There's only a character choosing menu, no in-game scenes.

The character choosing interface resembles SW3. A long bar in the center contains portraits of the characters. The other parts of the interface consists of the character's full body picture(head to thigh). The difference with SW3 is that there's a menu bar at the left with the words 'Wei Shu Wu Jun Others' on it. Character names are in black, font for the four kingdoms are in traditional 篆体. (It's basically like the ones in DW6 I assume).

From the screenshot, I notice most of thee portraits are still replaced by a question mark(reminds you of WO, no?). From the PSP screens, the portraits can't be viewed clearly, but the main/important characters can.

Details:

1, Guan Suo. Looks like your average Mr Sunshine, with a sporty/buffed-up look. He wears a sleeveless, round-neck top, resembling King of Fighters '96's 红丸(Google around for the character). It resembles some girls' PE outfits as well. Don't know if I'm being clear with the description. He looks like Guan Ping's younger bro, with short, black hair, without a beard. He's smiling in the portrait.

2, Lady Bu(Lian Shi). Strong, mature woman type(out of expectations!). Dresses sexily, but loses out to Bao SanNiang in terms of sexiness. And ermm...bigger tits, bigger than Yuan Ji's. Wears chest armour, exposes some waist, while the lower part looks like Bao. After the thighs I don't know what she's wearing, since it's hidden from the selection screen. My guess is knee length boots. Has black hair, with elegant hair. In conclusion, it looks like Bao without make-up and a 'red strong, mature woman'. My Taiwanese classmate liked it a lot, but not me.

3, Lu Bu. Mostly black, reveals some abs, looked like SW1's Nobunaga(don't think this'll be useful already since he's already revelaed).

4, Pang Tong. Has that very old fashioned hat(DW4 Pang Tong look I guess), commonly used by Japanese monks. Looks truly ordinary.

5, Diao Chan. I didn't saw her. According to my classmate, this is his favourite of all. Says her dress looks pretty. I guess she's more graceful, to match with Lu Bu's abs.

6, Sun Jian. Saw him in the portrait. Retains white hair, does not have that 'dashing' look though.

7, Zhang Fei. According to rumours, he's sharing the same weapon with Wei Yan.

8, Guo Jia. He's a face in the crowd (meaning he looks extremely ordinary(generic?))
Edited by Faichaimond, Tue Feb 1, 2011 7:13 am.
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