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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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FKA
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Why would koei add Guan Suo when he's an even worse of an add than his wife!!!!!

I don't think Guan Suo would be added in this installment, because I think that since Liu Bei will be portrayed much younger in this game, he will be the "handsome fellow" that Bao Sanniang follows (well either him or Guan Ping), therefore rendering Guan Suo entirely useless. besides, Guan Ping can take all of the roles of Guan Yu's sons..........

I do sincerely hope that this rumour is false.... anyways here's to hoping Xiao Qiao will be revealed with Pang De (to prove those rumours wrong), Pang Tong, Xiahou Ba and maybe Yuan Shu next week. :)



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I'm not angry, but I find Wu did not need another female character. If they want to add another, it would have been better in Wei, I think.

If this list is true... Zhu Ran is not there. I am very disappointed. :sad:
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Speaking of Xiao Qiao, what about some of the old charaters who havn't been shown, When do you think they will show up? Somthing about certain people being shown tuesday
Edited by OakWood, Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:59 am.
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I hope they don't add Guan Suo, although considering Bao is in, it's possible.
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If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:07 am
If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
But most Jin characters if not all, can be considered as Wei characters that includes Sima Yi himself. So in a sense, Wei actually has the most characters.
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Fantaji
Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:07 am
If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
But most Jin characters if not all, can be considered as Wei characters that includes Sima Yi himself. So in a sense, Wei actually has the most characters.
Yes, I know. Can be regarded Jin as the "Late Wei". Well, we at least had a new strategist, I think that's the main thing. But seriously, I can not redeem the fact Pang De is not returned, I was sure he would return. :kurokan:
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:07 am
If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
Yeah I kinda shocked right now :wacko: there is no prove that info is 100%, so we`ll be hope that is wrong. I don`t mind Liu Chan, he`s interesting add, but Suo is just silly... then remove Guan Ping caz they`re the same. One more lady in Wu it is also thing that i`m not expected. I want Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran but not another chick. <_< And Pang De - just absurd... cut him from series will be the worst Koei decision ever. I have a bad feeling and something inside me really bothering. New famitsu will be true X hour. :uh:
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:27 am
Fantaji
Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:07 am
If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
Yeah I kinda shocked right now :wacko: there is no prove that info is 100%, so we`ll be hope that is wrong. I don`t mind Liu Chan, he`s interesting add, but Suo is just silly... then remove Guan Ping caz they`re the same. One more lady in Wu it is also thing that i`m not expected. I want Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran but not another chick. <_< And Pang De - just absurd... cut him from series will be the worst Koei decision ever. I have a bad feeling and something inside me really bothering. New famitsu will be true X hour. :uh:
I thought Wu, Shu and Wei have an equal number of characters, I see that I was wrong. -_- Since Jin = Late Wei, I can understand that there is only one new character. After all, what we wanted was a new strategist to replace Sima Yi, and it's done. Moreover, Jia Xu is a really interesting character. I have no worries that they want to add another woman in Wu, but I am very disappointed that Zhu Ran does not appear in this list of rumors. It's the character I expected the most. Again, it will not be added. As for Shu, I agree with Liu Shan, but Guan Suo... :mellow:
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:33 am
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:27 am
Fantaji
Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:07 am
If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
Yeah I kinda shocked right now :wacko: there is no prove that info is 100%, so we`ll be hope that is wrong. I don`t mind Liu Chan, he`s interesting add, but Suo is just silly... then remove Guan Ping caz they`re the same. One more lady in Wu it is also thing that i`m not expected. I want Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran but not another chick. <_< And Pang De - just absurd... cut him from series will be the worst Koei decision ever. I have a bad feeling and something inside me really bothering. New famitsu will be true X hour. :uh:
I thought Wu, Shu and Wei have an equal number of characters, I see that I was wrong. -_- Since Jin = Late Wei, I can understand that there is only one new character. After all, what we wanted was a new strategist to replace Sima Yi, and it's done. Moreover, Jia Xu is a really interesting character. I have no worries that they want to add another woman in Wu, but I am very disappointed that Zhu Ran does not appear in this list of rumors. It's the character I expected the most. Again, it will not be added. As for Shu, I agree with Liu Shan, but Guan Suo... :mellow:
Yeah good that Koei added Jia Xu, Ma Dai and Deng Ai... but I want someone from my big wishlist for Wu. And what we have this scaryface Dingo and another chick (although she`s seems to be interesting add)... to be honest I`m more disappointed that glad. Have such general like Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran with their huge merits for Kingdom as generic it`s just inexcusable for warrior game. Yeah I like Wu and don`t have favorites in them is really suck. :kurokan:
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Yeah, but how do we know that the new Famitsu will even reveal the characters being mentioned? No one knows for sure, so we'll just have to see when we get the info.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:42 am
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:33 am
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:27 am
Fantaji
Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:07 am
If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
Yeah I kinda shocked right now :wacko: there is no prove that info is 100%, so we`ll be hope that is wrong. I don`t mind Liu Chan, he`s interesting add, but Suo is just silly... then remove Guan Ping caz they`re the same. One more lady in Wu it is also thing that i`m not expected. I want Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran but not another chick. <_< And Pang De - just absurd... cut him from series will be the worst Koei decision ever. I have a bad feeling and something inside me really bothering. New famitsu will be true X hour. :uh:
I thought Wu, Shu and Wei have an equal number of characters, I see that I was wrong. -_- Since Jin = Late Wei, I can understand that there is only one new character. After all, what we wanted was a new strategist to replace Sima Yi, and it's done. Moreover, Jia Xu is a really interesting character. I have no worries that they want to add another woman in Wu, but I am very disappointed that Zhu Ran does not appear in this list of rumors. It's the character I expected the most. Again, it will not be added. As for Shu, I agree with Liu Shan, but Guan Suo... :mellow:
Yeah good that Koei added Jia Xu, Ma Dai and Deng Ai... but I want someone from my big wishlist for Wu. And what we have this scaryface Dingo and another chick (although she`s seems to be interesting add)... to be honest I`m more disappointed that glad. Have such general like Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran with their huge merits for Kingdom as generic it`s just inexcusable for warrior game. Yeah I like Wu and don`t have favorites in them is really suck. :kurokan:
In a sense, I wonder if that list is false... but I, feel it is true. After all, we already Jia Xu and Xiahou Ba. Most expected the addition of Liu Shan, Guan Suo was likely.

I prefer to head now Pang De will not return (although nothing is confirmed). But seriously, I'm disappointed he did not return. In my opinion, only Zuo Ci was likely to be deleted. I confess I do not really understand why KOEI has taken this decision.

Ah, Zhu Ran... :sad:
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I am on the fence about Guan Suo, but I have come to the decision that Liu Shan is a good choice, if this is all to be believed. I can see what his addition would add to the game play. I wonder what his character will be like? A Dynasty Warriors version of Imagawa Yoshimoto perhaps? :lol:
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:42 am
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:33 am
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:27 am
Fantaji
Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:07 am
If Shu receiving Liu Shan and Guan Suo, it has been really spoiled. Four new in a single opus. If this list is true, I am disappointed Wei did not receive other new characters that Jia Xu. If Pang De is removed, this makes a total of 13 characters for Wei... I hoped at least 15. <_<
Yeah I kinda shocked right now :wacko: there is no prove that info is 100%, so we`ll be hope that is wrong. I don`t mind Liu Chan, he`s interesting add, but Suo is just silly... then remove Guan Ping caz they`re the same. One more lady in Wu it is also thing that i`m not expected. I want Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran but not another chick. <_< And Pang De - just absurd... cut him from series will be the worst Koei decision ever. I have a bad feeling and something inside me really bothering. New famitsu will be true X hour. :uh:
I thought Wu, Shu and Wei have an equal number of characters, I see that I was wrong. -_- Since Jin = Late Wei, I can understand that there is only one new character. After all, what we wanted was a new strategist to replace Sima Yi, and it's done. Moreover, Jia Xu is a really interesting character. I have no worries that they want to add another woman in Wu, but I am very disappointed that Zhu Ran does not appear in this list of rumors. It's the character I expected the most. Again, it will not be added. As for Shu, I agree with Liu Shan, but Guan Suo... :mellow:
Yeah good that Koei added Jia Xu, Ma Dai and Deng Ai... but I want someone from my big wishlist for Wu. And what we have this scaryface Dingo and another chick (although she`s seems to be interesting add)... to be honest I`m more disappointed that glad. Have such general like Cheng Pu and Zhu Ran with their huge merits for Kingdom as generic it`s just inexcusable for warrior game. Yeah I like Wu and don`t have favorites in them is really suck. :kurokan:
In a sense, I wonder if that list is false... but I, feel it is true. After all, we already Jia Xu and Xiahou Ba. Most expected the addition of Liu Shan, Guan Suo was likely.

I prefer to head now Pang De will not return (although nothing is confirmed). But seriously, I'm disappointed he did not return. In my opinion, only Zuo Ci was likely to be deleted. I confess I do not really understand why KOEI has taken this decision.

Ah, Zhu Ran... :sad:
Sometimes Koei made unpredictable and stupid decisions. Removing Pang De and adding Guan Suo - two examples of it. Poor fans of Liao Hua, I guess they`re already hate Guan Suo.
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Since there is no edit mode for the characters.......

and there will be DLC content for the game.........

Have you considered even if some characters are not in the release, they may become DLC in future content?

Really I believe we will see all the old characters of DW5E return one way or another. WAY too early to get your self in a bind.
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If Pang De is not present, I want to make it available as DLC later. :hmmm:
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i think im the only one who is acctually hopeing for guan suo to be added but then again im a huge fan of the guan family...but i for one dont like liu chan being added if i were to want liu bei's so i would perfer his adopted son liu feng over chan.anyway i do hope dlc will have other characters i would even pay for the dlc if they had some new characters available.
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Hmmm, there's a recurring rumor on 2ch regarding characters that just popped up again in their DW7 thread.

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694 名無し曰く、[sage] 2010/12/16(木) 00:30:09 ID:me/KXI5T

そろそろリークしていいか?
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賈ク・夏侯覇・劉禅・関索・歩夫人
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Mind if I leak now?
Remaining new characters
Jia Xu/Xiahou Ba/Liu Chan/Guan Suo/Hofujin
Also Pang De and Zuo Ci are still cut


I had no idea who that last name is(it's the Japanese name for a Chinese person, so yeah...) so I googled it and was led to the Japanese wiki page for Sun Quan. Apparently the name is Lady Bu, and she is his third wife and mother to Sun Luban. Quan originally wished for her to be empress, but retainers favored his 2nd wife instead(who died right after he became Emperor.) The Imperial Court would later name Lady Bu as Empress.

Seems this leak has been posted more often lately due to the character reveals matching up, especially with Xiahou Ba being revealed accidentally.
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Okay, Guan Suo was a given. Not too upset over that add, and Liu Chan I actually want. But another Waifu? And, might I add, NOT Lady Wu? Oh, so disappointed, Koei. You could have had some serious fun with that. What a wasted opportunity... no matter, it's only Sun Quan you're degrading by giving him another crutch, so no worries there.

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And are YOU KIDDING ME? Sun Quan needs a companion to make him interesting?! I guess between his father dying, his brother dying, his sister flirting with the emperor next door, and his bodyguard who can't stop gushing blood on his robe, there's a real lack of interest that a wife who will do nothing other than follow him around aimlessly saying "I'M WITH YOU MY DEAR!" can really fill!


My sentiments exactly. If they couldn't 'make him interesting' with what he's already given, I highly doubt giving him a wife will do the trick. Sorry, but highly unlikely. We'll see if Koei can prove us wrong, though.

Also, the biggest issue I have with this rumor is that last bit. Zuo Ci I can understand not returning, but Pang De as well? Ugh, really bad move there, Koei. Guess they couldn't figure out any other way to liven him up this time around so they threw him into the back burner. Again.

Whatever. DLC, expansion pack. Make it happen, Koei. Don't let what could have been a great character go to waste.

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lets not forget cai wen ji was also added to wei!

and by the way what is 2ch?
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:49 am
lets not forget cai wen ji was also added to wei!
She is only semi-new. She is for those who have not played MULTI RAID 2.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:49 am
lets not forget cai wen ji was also added to wei!
She is only semi-new. She is for those who have not played MULTI RAID 2.
So if the rumor is true, then Wei got the short end of the stick. Not going to say that Jia Xu or Cai Wenji (regardless if you consider her new or not) are terrible additions, but they lose two members, while Shu gets four new characters?

Wow... did Wei lose the recent popularity contest in Japan or what? Even Wu got Da Qiao back and two new characters (possibly, anyway). Dyamn.

Cao Cao must have pissed in the director's Cheerios or something.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:49 am
lets not forget cai wen ji was also added to wei!

and by the way what is 2ch?
She`s not new character. Wen Ji was not in the main game but she appeared in MR2. So don`t count her.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:54 am
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:49 am
lets not forget cai wen ji was also added to wei! and by the way what is 2ch?
She`s not new character. Wen Ji was not in the main game but she appeared in MR2. So don`t count her.
This is her first time in a main DW game so yeah she is new. For those who haven't played MR2 or even heard of it she is new. So as Fantaji said Semi-new at best.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:54 am
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lets not forget cai wen ji was also added to wei! and by the way what is 2ch?
She`s not new character. Wen Ji was not in the main game but she appeared in MR2. So don`t count her.
This is her first time in a main DW game so yeah she is new. For those who haven't played MR2 or even heard of it she is new. So as Fantaji said Semi-new at best.
Even if she's considered semi-new, doesn't make up for the fact that Wei lost two characters still. Jia Xu is MORE than enough to make up for the loss of Sima Yi (eh, in my opinion anyway), but Cai Wenji doesn't really fill in that spot that Pang De leaves.

To look on the bright side, Koei might be revamping Pang De's personality, and maybe in DW8 he'll be revealed, alongside with Yu Jin. I'm spitting mad about him possibly being cut a second time, but I guess there's little to be done about that. Sad to see him go...
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KOEI, please, Pang De to be back! :kurokan:
Sorry, I still can not get used to the idea.

Cai Wen Ji: Semi-new. She is new to some, and for others, not.
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