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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:46 am
Waifu for Sun Quan will make Jiahe rage, and I wouldn't be too happy about that either.
This. I am not happy if the rumor is true. WHY KOEI? What significant importance would adding in Quan's wife would bring to this game? Seriously, Lady Wu would be a better add on then this. I would rather watch a mother bond with her children then another wife stalking her husband on the battlefield cheering them on. Ugh, I think I am going to cry if this truly becomes true...

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I'm here for you, Jiahe. :(
I'll admit, I actually did cry a bit over it a few hours ago. This is what happens when I have fangirl ranting sessions with Firion about how I would be furious if something like this would ever happen and somehow it could/will happen. Funny how I like writing stories where I give Quan random fictional girlfriends then I beat the crap out of them out of jealously and anger and I am okay with it but somehow I am not okay with this Lady Bu happening if it goes through... she's just not necessary at all. -__-

Honestly, majority of the males can handle themselves in battle just fine without same trophy wife attach to them. I have nothing against female wife characters but I would prefer if they had some actual purpose in the game where they are fighting for a goal instead stalking and rallying along side their husbands when they have a whole army of troops that can do that for them.
I agree it creeps me out how all the wives stalk there husbands, if KOEI puts a woman figure in there they should a goal of some sort
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But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
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Diao Chan is important. Like she single-handedly changes the direction of the story. The only other female that even comes close to that is Sun Shang Xiang, and to a much lesser extent.

Is she more important than Lu Bu? Of course not. But she does have a purpose.

Edit: I shouldn't say she "single-handedly" changes the direction of the story. She is simply at the center of it.
Edited by Liu Bei 7, Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:41 pm.
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But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
if Lu Bu was indeed the worst, then why would we run from him, and admit it! we all have run from Lu Bu one time or another. if your talking story wise... i would say i think his was the best in DW6. you truly got to fight EVERYONE in the game! who didn't want to do that! it was so made up, but i didn't care at all. it was sooo funnn!!!! i hope he alone gets his own musou just so i can play levels like those again!!!!!! i know thats not going to happen, but i really wish they would do it again.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:31 pm
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:51 pm
Actually, the new female character's addition makes perfect sense. KOEI are really just adding on more couples, so they will appeal to female audiences. If these latest rumors are true then we'll have 11 couples for this game. Possibly 12 if Cai Wenji's relationship with Cao Cao is included in the storyline. DW7 Couples: Liu Bei - Sun Shang Xiang Liu Shan -Xing Cai Zhuge Liang - Yue Ying Guan Suo - Bao San Niang Cao Pi - Zhen Ji Sun Ce - Da Qiao Zhou Yu - Xiao Qiao Sun Quan - Lady Bu Sima Zhao - Wang Yuanji Meng Huo - Zhu Rong Lu Bu - Diao Chan
Cai Wenji had no relationship with Cao Cao. Maybe one like Fantaji said, but adding her as Cao Cao's "wife" would be disappointing. Lady Bian beats the crap of Cai Wenji in that. The couples: 1st one: Not even a proper couple, lol. Xiang only stayed with Liu Bei for months, I think, and she didn't like him at all 2nd one: Lol. Xing Cai, even though being half-fictitious, wasn't lame enough for Shan 3rd: Fair enough 4th: Lame. Fictional unimportant characters 5th: Good ploy 6th: "Lord Sun Ce!!!" WTF 7th: Same, but with Zhou Yu. Both Qiaos are dispensable 8th: Also fair. Not too much, though 9th: Seems cool, but I can't stand Zhao's cool looking. That isn't Sima Zhao 10th: Zhu Rong is fictitious, and Meng Huo isn't as stupid as he's portrayed 11th: Lame. Lu Bu alone should suffice
sorry, but that comment about lu bu alone should suffice really pissed me off. now whilst he may be the strongest character in the game moveset wise and one of koeis favourites think just what would his story be without diao chan? infact, without diao chan, the whole game could be different, because it was diao chan who killed dong zhuo when you really think about. so yea. in fact i think diao chan would be a better character alone than lu bu if he was alone
Lu bu's story would be PERFECTLY FINE without diao chan he wasn't a B@D@$$ because of her he was always like that. the rest of that was hilarious diao chan instead of Lu Bu? LOL. ALERT DO NOT HOLD YOUR BREATH EVAR. let's see some B@D@$$ warrior that pretty much DESTROYED whole armies < some chick that hangs with Lu Bu and dong zhuo.... YEAH THAT MAKES SENSE.
But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar" and with diao chan its much more twisted and interesting. and while lu bus story (not the character) would be really boring alone, diao chans would still be unique, even if lu bu wasn't playable or something..
Lu bu's story is already RAWR IM DA BESS! the parts with diao chan just don't interest me in the slightest. if Diao chan was playable over Lu bu would really cause a Great Schism in the Gaming Community.
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But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
of course...well in 6 his story was rather plain..although the last stage was fun to play :whistle:

well of course lu bu was "more important" historywise and in battles and so on. but diao chan and lu bu's story is popular and diao chans worth is maybe not in history but in making a story interesting, just like in movies or whatever. it's another point of view. also lu bu has ever been bad-ass even WITH her.
also i find that diao chan is different to all those wives you all talk about.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:29 pm
But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
if Lu Bu was indeed the worst, then why would we run from him, and admit it! we all have run from Lu Bu one time or another. if your talking story wise... i would say i think his was the best in DW6. you truly got to fight EVERYONE in the game! who didn't want to do that! it was so made up, but i didn't care at all. it was sooo funnn!!!! i hope he alone gets his own musou just so i can play levels like those again!!!!!! i know thats not going to happen, but i really wish they would do it again.
Being really strong and a tough opponent has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he is a good character. Neither does having a fun stage. He is still overly generic, boring, meh move set, and has awful designs. He has one mood that never changes, and people only like him because he is iconic and really strong, he has no personality and is definitely the worst character in the series.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:29 pm
But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
if Lu Bu was indeed the worst, then why would we run from him, and admit it! we all have run from Lu Bu one time or another. if your talking story wise... i would say i think his was the best in DW6. you truly got to fight EVERYONE in the game! who didn't want to do that! it was so made up, but i didn't care at all. it was sooo funnn!!!! i hope he alone gets his own musou just so i can play levels like those again!!!!!! i know thats not going to happen, but i really wish they would do it again.
Being really strong and a tough opponent has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he is a good character. Neither does having a fun stage. He is still overly generic, boring, meh move set, and has awful designs. He has one mood that never changes, and people only like him because he is iconic and really strong, he has no personality and is definitely the worst character in the series.
i'll agree that he has lame designs, but he doesn't have just one mood. its just his demeanor in which he handles himself. when ever you kill diao chan he gos from "hell yeah i'm fighting these dudes and owning" to "Level 3 pissed" and when he sees you post that he goes into "Level 10 pissed" he just doesn't seem happy when he is.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:29 pm
But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
if Lu Bu was indeed the worst, then why would we run from him, and admit it! we all have run from Lu Bu one time or another. if your talking story wise... i would say i think his was the best in DW6. you truly got to fight EVERYONE in the game! who didn't want to do that! it was so made up, but i didn't care at all. it was sooo funnn!!!! i hope he alone gets his own musou just so i can play levels like those again!!!!!! i know thats not going to happen, but i really wish they would do it again.
Being really strong and a tough opponent has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not he is a good character. Neither does having a fun stage. He is still overly generic, boring, meh move set, and has awful designs. He has one mood that never changes, and people only like him because he is iconic and really strong, he has no personality and is definitely the worst character in the series.
But that's just your opinion, and also Koei's depiction of Lu Bu. So for you, Lu Bu is all of those things, but maybe not to others. Who is your favorite character, anyways?
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:51 pm.
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But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
of course...well in 6 his story was rather plain..although the last stage was fun to play :whistle:

well of course lu bu was "more important" historywise and in battles and so on. but diao chan and lu bu's story is popular and diao chans worth is maybe not in history but in making a story interesting, just like in movies or whatever. it's another point of view. also lu bu has ever been bad-ass even WITH her.
also i find that diao chan is different to all those wives you all talk about.
But I'm not even talking history or novel wise. I don't care about the history or the novel, I'm just talking game and storywise. Lu Bu doesn't need anyone, he's already Iconic and popular enough to get along the way he is by himself, till the end of the series, adding eye-candy for him just makes things more interesting, but it in no ways makes a big difference.

@RandomGuySaysHi: All his moods are angry, he is always angry at someone, you said it yourself, he just goes through different stages of pissed.
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But i think, what she meant was, that without diao chan, lu bus story would be all about "i'm the mightiest fighter, roooar"
Have you ever played Lu Bu's stories? Thats all he needs and people will still love him, he is the easiest character to write for. :mellow:

And while I do like Diao Chan more than Lu Bu (just because I hate Lu Bu unfathomably, and don't care one bit about Chan), that whole post by BloodxBlossom was ridiculous. Diao Chan isn't important at all and Lu Bu doesn't need her, Lu Bu needs nobody, he is one of the most popular characters, and he is without a doubt the worst.

Anyway, I agree so much with Jiahe's post. Bring on female characters, but don't just make them tag along trophy wives like the rest of them (excluding Zhu Rong and Yuanji from the looks of it) Those types of characters are annoying.
of course...well in 6 his story was rather plain..although the last stage was fun to play :whistle:

well of course lu bu was "more important" historywise and in battles and so on. but diao chan and lu bu's story is popular and diao chans worth is maybe not in history but in making a story interesting, just like in movies or whatever. it's another point of view. also lu bu has ever been bad-ass even WITH her.
also i find that diao chan is different to all those wives you all talk about.
But I'm not even talking history or novel wise. I don't care about the history or the novel, I'm just talking game and storywise. Lu Bu doesn't need anyone, he's already Iconic and popular enough to get along the way he is by himself, till the end of the series, adding eye-candy for him just makes things more interesting, but it in no ways makes a big difference.

@RandomGuySaysHi: All his moods are angry, he is always angry at someone, you said it yourself, he just goes through different stages of pissed.
okay but i even dont get, why you are talking so, even if you hate lu buXD

well but diao chan and lu bu belong together..its like saying...i dont know, caesar dont need cleopatra..of course those are different, but also a popular couple...
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:33 pm
Maybe someone can post on Masakazu Morita's (Pang De's voice actor, also Ichigo from Bleach) twitter and ask if Koei approached him to voice Pang De.

If he says no then that likely means no Pang De.
It would likely get us nowhere, since he'd probably have to say no regardless of whether he had..

VA's can get in big trouble for releasing things like that, especially with such secretive characters >.<

and with him not being in since DW5 and only being in 1 main game, he could have a major rehaul and therefore recieve a new VA ^^

But yeah, I don't trust this new "list"
surely Lady Bu wouldn't simply be called "Lady Bu"?
probably Sun Bu or another made up name... unless that's just a translation, hmm I might be looking into this too far again ^^"
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i feel that Diao Chan adds a slightly deeper level to Lu Bu. whenever she is in danger or is defeated he does experience sorrow coupled with even more rage. i think one of her purposes is to make Lu Bu's personality deeper rather than him being a boring and generic two demensional character. but in my opinion they kinda failed. he is two demensional and only does the one mood, anger. Diao Chan is probably there to calm him down as well as the reasons i and others have mentioned but sometimes i feel she stays with him out of fear or manipulation. i really don't think they are truley in love.
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You know...I don't think I like Zhang Fei's hair in this game...I rather prefer the thing he wore on his head in DW5, or even the DW6 one. His hair just looks so...odd.
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All these Pang De rumors are making my head spin~

I really adore him for some reason, and feel Wei needs more love. Koei tends to paint most characters as one-dimensional but Wei most of all. Or maybe I just don't like the changes I've seen with Cao Ren's new design...
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I liked the DW6 portrayal of Lu Bu and Diao Chan.
He actually seemed sweet in some cutscenes.
And I liked how Diao Chan "Developed" Feelings for him :)
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Bao San Niang's addition would be a lot better if Guan Suo doesn't get added...If he does, she'll only be another wife. But if he's not, I can see her stalking the Shu pretty boys (Zhao Yun, Ma Chao, Jiang Wei) and acting a lot like Okuni. That'd be nice :D
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I wonder how many of the characters will be retaining their English VAs from DW6? Or even DW5, for that matter.

But Chin did say that Sun Ce has the same voice he had in DW6.
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Do you like DOA? How about Samurai Warriors? Then next week will be a very good week for you, so says my crystal ball...


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Seems to be what Chin was referring to about next week. So we'll getting a bunch of stuff on top of the usual Famitsu publication.
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Do you like DOA? How about Samurai Warriors? Then next week will be a very good week for you, so says my crystal ball...


Posted on Twitter by TecmoKoeiUS

Seems to be what Chin was referring to about next week. So we'll getting a bunch of stuff on top of the usual Famitsu publication.
The DOA thing is probably about DOA: Dimensions on the 3Ds, and that new Samurai Warriors game on the PSP. Or maybe about SW3Z/XL.
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Remember though it's TecmoKoeiUS, so it's going to do with the US/EU.
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Remember though it's TecmoKoeiUS, so it's going to do with the US/EU.
hmm...Interesting. I wonder what it is, then. So do you know if we're getting new DW7 scans this Tuesday?
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I don't trust that list period. Koei going to be pimpslapped by so many people if that the list is true. All this hating on Lu Bu nonsense needs to calm down. Umm yea Diao Chan and Lu Bu are interesting, brings something else to Lu Bu's story.
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I don't trust that list period. Koei going to be pimpslapped by so many people if that the list is true. All this hating on Lu Bu nonsense needs to calm down. Umm yea Diao Chan and Lu Bu are interesting, brings something else to Lu Bu's story.
Did you buy your DW7 off of GameStop already? :O
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Reverie
Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:36 pm
I don't trust that list period. Koei going to be pimpslapped by so many people if that the list is true. All this hating on Lu Bu nonsense needs to calm down. Umm yea Diao Chan and Lu Bu are interesting, brings something else to Lu Bu's story.
Did you buy your DW7 off of GameStop already? :O
Nah not yet.


See I'm going to wait cause I'm still debating weither to get it for 360 or ps3, cause of online mainly. At first I was sure bout 360 but don't know, I really want to know if any thing will be exclusive or not.
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