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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,040,053 Views)
Rangiku
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UpInMahBubble
Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:54 pm
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:22 pm
UpInMahBubble
Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:11 pm
I don't know why but I'd Really like Bao Sanniang to have her Kessen II costume as an alternate costume. I know it'll never happen, but still :sly:
that would be nice, because in kessen II she was really cool and mature :wub: . and i like this costume so much more, then this skimpy one...
Yes! :wub: and it's always nice to have extra costumes.
I wonder if there's gonna be a colour edit feature like there was in SW3 :sly:
or if the characters can go back to there previous costume(s)
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SRS
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There is also a temple erected to Guan Suo in China(and the locals believe in his legend,) along with a mountain that bears his name.

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According to the local people, Guan Suo was a great general who loved the people. Because of his contributions to the regions known as Gauzhou today, the temple was built in his memory and the peak was named after him.


http://www.changingtrip.com/english/50sight/40.asp
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Yang Xiu
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jsully16
Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:54 pm
I also don't trust the list.
If Seraphil is confident in the accuracy of the list, then I'm treating it as fact.

But it sucks... no Pang De, and a horrible female character. I'm perplexed that people are saying she could be interesting.. if she sounds interesting then I would like to know who WOULDN'T be interesting. KOEI decided to add Jiang Gan? Random bandit Qing Niujiao? They added random female palace attendant #2? Could be interesting!

EDIT: However, let's also keep in mind that 2ch also thought Sima Zhao was actually Xu Shu.
Edited by Yang Xiu, Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:09 pm.
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ThreeKingdomsWarrior
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Reverie
Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:15 pm
If Guan Suo looks epic and has an unique yet awesome weapon, I sure as hell won't be complaining. I mean Bao may not be the best/smartest add but I have a feeling people will grow to like her. Also Seraphil claim as to them not being fake seems legit and logical even though I can't read japanese ha ha.
That's right. We all should think more optimistic about these two, WHEN Guan Suo will be in the game. The main point is, that Koei makes a real good warrior , whom everybody would like. Maybe handsome, but fearless, brave and furious as well. And he should ignore BS a bit.
And thanks for Seraphil for the many infos about Guan Suo. That would make him a bit more acceptable, WHEN he is in.
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SRS
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It's funny, before this even I didn't know all that much about Guan Suo. This is a learning experience!
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:09 pm
It's funny, before this even I didn't know all that much about Guan Suo. This is a learning experience!
I agree. I knew bits and pieces of Guan Suo's tale, but to see it all brought together creates a very good picture. WHEN Guan Suo is presented to the game, I will be all for it, I think. ^_^
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If Guan Suo is indeed going to be in this game I suspect that he will initally be a naive but cheerful general who enjoys fighting alongside his brother and father whilst being chased by Sanniang.
Then when Mai Castle happens, he becomes depressed and withdrawn due to losing his family, and during that time Sanniang would try to cheer him up again.
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jsully16
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I still don't find it that acceptable. From what I've gathered here, he is a person that may or may not have even existed. He has legends of folklore stringing together a story of a fake person, but then a cult following him. The Cult of Chtulu thinks there's actually a giant octopus monster that will come banish us all to a dark void but that doesn't make it real.

I'm still thinking we sue Koei after this add and wait and see if everyone working for that company pleads insanity. My vote says yes.
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Moogle
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he still might not be added yano ;D

I mean, I don't mind him, they could make him interesting after hsi father and brother's death by seeing him in mourning (along with the other ton of mourning Shu peeps x3)
But there's still some bigger characters, yano?
I'd kinda rather they just made Bao Sanniang to be Guan Yu's daughter and not bother wasting a spot on her hubbie though

But as long as Liu Shan and sun hao get in.. I'm good ;)
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Reverie
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jsully16
Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:29 pm
I still don't find it that acceptable. From what I've gathered here, he is a person that may or may not have even existed. He has legends of folklore stringing together a story of a fake person, but then a cult following him. The Cult of Chtulu thinks there's actually a giant octopus monster that will come banish us all to a dark void but that doesn't make it real.

I'm still thinking we sue Koei after this add and wait and see if everyone working for that company pleads insanity. My vote says yes.
Yea but he isn't fake :blink:

But we all got our own views
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Yang Xiu
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jsully16
Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:29 pm
I still don't find it that acceptable. From what I've gathered here, he is a person that may or may not have even existed. He has legends of folklore stringing together a story of a fake person, but then a cult following him. The Cult of Chtulu thinks there's actually a giant octopus monster that will come banish us all to a dark void but that doesn't make it real.

I'm still thinking we sue Koei after this add and wait and see if everyone working for that company pleads insanity. My vote says yes.
... only until Mint Berry Crunch banishes Cthulu back to the dark void.

Uh, anyway...

I didn't think it was disputable that Guan Suo existed. It's not a debate, he never actually existed, there isn't a legitimate argument that he did. Seraphil probably knows better, but I thought that was the case.
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lol as Long as Gan Ning and Lu Bu the two most badass Mofos in the game are still in im good!, shame about Pang De though... I honestly think they ****ed Zhang Liao, like his looks are nothing compared to that of his 4 or 5 costume... and they gave him Pang De's weapon?...ugh. w.e though guess Wu has Gan Ning and Wei has Zhang Liao reincarnated as Pang De? Good one Koei...
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Reverie
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:35 pm
jsully16
Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:29 pm
I still don't find it that acceptable. From what I've gathered here, he is a person that may or may not have even existed. He has legends of folklore stringing together a story of a fake person, but then a cult following him. The Cult of Chtulu thinks there's actually a giant octopus monster that will come banish us all to a dark void but that doesn't make it real.

I'm still thinking we sue Koei after this add and wait and see if everyone working for that company pleads insanity. My vote says yes.
... only until Mint Berry Crunch banishes Cthulu back to the dark void.

Uh, anyway...

I didn't think it was disputable that Guan Suo existed. It's not a debate, he never actually existed, there isn't a legitimate argument that he did. Seraphil probably knows better, but I thought that was the case.
Ok, let's do this, instead of people saying he's fake, please provide links and resources stating he's really fake and it's 100% legitimate resource. Cause Seraphil provided links and what not.

Just so this argument can be put to an end, which it won't cause not everyone will read this, not saying they won't on purpose but you know this page is almost at an end and people don't usually look back on stuff.
Edited by Reverie, Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:41 pm.
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And for all those, who loves Lu Bu and Diao Chan. Don't mind the discussions on the last pages. The story of these two in DW is kinda perfect.
Lu Bu more badass without her?????
How more badass can he be? He's more badass than in the real story i think.
Ohhhh damn, there are really people, which would make Lu Bu's story without Diao Chan and sh.t on the whole real story from that time :angry: .
So illogical. I hate illogical.
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Reverie
Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:38 pm
Sluggo
Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:35 pm
jsully16
Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:29 pm
I still don't find it that acceptable. From what I've gathered here, he is a person that may or may not have even existed. He has legends of folklore stringing together a story of a fake person, but then a cult following him. The Cult of Chtulu thinks there's actually a giant octopus monster that will come banish us all to a dark void but that doesn't make it real.

I'm still thinking we sue Koei after this add and wait and see if everyone working for that company pleads insanity. My vote says yes.
... only until Mint Berry Crunch banishes Cthulu back to the dark void.

Uh, anyway...

I didn't think it was disputable that Guan Suo existed. It's not a debate, he never actually existed, there isn't a legitimate argument that he did. Seraphil probably knows better, but I thought that was the case.
Ok, let's do this, instead of people saying he's fake, please provide links and resources stating he's really fact. Cause Seraphil provided links and what not.
What do you mean by "fake"? He wasn't a real person. He is fictional. However, he is not a modern creation. He was in folklore of the past so Koei did not fabricate him.

He is about as real as Zhou Cang, actually he is less real since he wasn't even originally in ROTK. So if anyone thinks Zhou Cang was real, then more power to you.
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What so was Guan Suo real or not? And I sure hope that this is only half true, I don't mind Liu Shan and Guan Suo if he's real but add another decent Wei and Wu character and bring back Pang De!!!
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Lu Bu wouldn't be as epic without his chick.
A pimp's gotta pimp ;)
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:41 pm
What so was Guan Suo real or not? And I sure hope that this is only half true, I don't mind Liu Shan and Guan Suo if he's real but add another decent Wei and Wu character and bring back Pang De!!!
Yeah, hell yeah. Pang De is the only one at the time i really care about.
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:32 pm
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:31 pm
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:51 pm
Actually, the new female character's addition makes perfect sense. KOEI are really just adding on more couples, so they will appeal to female audiences. If these latest rumors are true then we'll have 11 couples for this game. Possibly 12 if Cai Wenji's relationship with Cao Cao is included in the storyline. DW7 Couples: Liu Bei - Sun Shang Xiang Liu Shan -Xing Cai Zhuge Liang - Yue Ying Guan Suo - Bao San Niang Cao Pi - Zhen Ji Sun Ce - Da Qiao Zhou Yu - Xiao Qiao Sun Quan - Lady Bu Sima Zhao - Wang Yuanji Meng Huo - Zhu Rong Lu Bu - Diao Chan
Cai Wenji had no relationship with Cao Cao. Maybe one like Fantaji said, but adding her as Cao Cao's "wife" would be disappointing. Lady Bian beats the crap of Cai Wenji in that. The couples: 1st one: Not even a proper couple, lol. Xiang only stayed with Liu Bei for months, I think, and she didn't like him at all 2nd one: Lol. Xing Cai, even though being half-fictitious, wasn't lame enough for Shan 3rd: Fair enough 4th: Lame. Fictional unimportant characters 5th: Good ploy 6th: "Lord Sun Ce!!!" WTF 7th: Same, but with Zhou Yu. Both Qiaos are dispensable 8th: Also fair. Not too much, though 9th: Seems cool, but I can't stand Zhao's cool looking. That isn't Sima Zhao 10th: Zhu Rong is fictitious, and Meng Huo isn't as stupid as he's portrayed 11th: Lame. Lu Bu alone should suffice
sorry, but that comment about lu bu alone should suffice really pissed me off. now whilst he may be the strongest character in the game moveset wise and one of koeis favourites think just what would his story be without diao chan? infact, without diao chan, the whole game could be different, because it was diao chan who killed dong zhuo when you really think about. so yea. in fact i think diao chan would be a better character alone than lu bu if he was alone
Lu Bu killed Dong Zhuo. The one KOEI portrays as Diao Chan was an unimportant maiden, with which Bu and Zhuo both had relationships with. Lu Bu's story could do fine without Diao Chan, since he had conflicts with Cao Cao, Liu Bei, Yuan Shu and he has 2 loyal officers, Chen Gong and Gao Shun, besides having Zhang Liao. So, Lu Bu, alone in the sense of not married, should suffice.

@Xiuzhao: I was simply analyzing the couples' personas. Or even that I can't do? Besides, Lu Bu would do fine without Diao Chan, we would do fine without Guan and Bao, and some fans of History could do fine without this Xing Cai X Liu Shan relationship. I wasn't intending to attack Jsun
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:35 pm
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Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:29 pm
I still don't find it that acceptable. From what I've gathered here, he is a person that may or may not have even existed. He has legends of folklore stringing together a story of a fake person, but then a cult following him. The Cult of Chtulu thinks there's actually a giant octopus monster that will come banish us all to a dark void but that doesn't make it real.

I'm still thinking we sue Koei after this add and wait and see if everyone working for that company pleads insanity. My vote says yes.
... only until Mint Berry Crunch banishes Cthulu back to the dark void.

Uh, anyway...

I didn't think it was disputable that Guan Suo existed. It's not a debate, he never actually existed, there isn't a legitimate argument that he did. Seraphil probably knows better, but I thought that was the case.
Ok, let's do this, instead of people saying he's fake, please provide links and resources stating he's really fake and it's 100% legitimate resource. Cause Seraphil provided links and what not.

Just so this argument can be put to an end, which it won't cause not everyone will read this, not saying they won't on purpose but you know this page is almost at an end and people don't usually look back on stuff.
http://kongming.net/encyclopedia/Guan-Suo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guan_Suo
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php?/topic/2052-guan-yus-offspring/

He's fake, dude. As in not real. Like Medusa or Mint Berry Crunch. The product of folklore.

Guan Yu, Cao Cao, and the majority of the rest of the cast actually existed in history. Guan Suo did not.
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Reverie, Seraphil posted links to folk lore telling a story about a fictional son of Guan Yu. How in the world does that make him real?

Anyway, I'm like 50-50 on that list being true, and I guess, after reading a lot about Guan Suo, I don't mind his story too much. I still hate Bao Sanniang, but Guan Suo could be decently done. I suppose it's a lost cause arguing against Koei adding the most fantasized warrior a fantasy son.

I like Guan Yu, Guan Ping is okay, maybe they make Guan Suo a badass soldier type with some cool looking armor and a nice weapon and I actually like him. I'll cross my fingers that the only thing I really don't like about him is the fact that his story will involve Bao Sanniang.
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Whether Guan Suo was real or not I don't particularly care.

I think it still stands that when you have characters like Liao Hua who may be left out in space of him, that is ridiculous.

I just hope the rumour is false and Bao Sanniang will be like Zhen Ji, where her husband was added in a further installment.
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hey i'm guessing that all characters have more than one musou attack but are they pre-chosen i.e. your choice of weapon determines your musou attack or is it like each weapon comes with 3-4 musou attacks but u may only pick up to 2
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I agree with Moogle and Dian Wei dude.

@Lui Bei 7: I just am curious cause there were some links containing info on both Guan Suo and Bao being real. Seraphil had good back up, unless I misunderstood him.

@The other two guys: Alright also thanks for the info Sluggo.
Edited by Reverie, Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:52 pm.
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I'm still crossing my fingers that Bao Sanniang is just Koei trolling us, adding a CG character and 5 second clip of her to lead us to believe they'd actually add such a useless character.

I might be wrong, but I still hold onto hope.

I guess at this point, the only real question I have is: How can mint and berries combine into such a DELICIOUS CRUUNCH??
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