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| Zhang_Chunhua | Sun Feb 6, 2011 11:01 am Post #9326 |
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Sima Yi apologize or I will starve to death our sons and myself for this!!
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ok so I have think this a lot and there is something that does not work with the spoil list: ok so Jiang Wei, Da Qiao, and Xing Cai are returning (Wu and Shu). however, Pang De and Zuo Ci not returning (wei and other forces). So 3 characters are comming back from Shu and Wu but none from Wei (not counting cai wenji). So I think there is hope for Pang De, I don't even care if Koei gives him some crappy weapons, There is still hope everyone ![]() Edit: notices that if we go to DWSF2 only Xing Cai is returning, then it becomes wierd that only her is returning Edited by Zhang_Chunhua, Sun Feb 6, 2011 11:03 am.
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| D4N | Sun Feb 6, 2011 11:22 am Post #9327 |
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To be hounest I think koei made the right choice to cut people however there cutting the wrong people. Cutting is needed so they could either add a new character or develop another characters personality. If I were to cut one character from each team it would be: Wu: The Qioas( I know that's two but there a package) Wei: Xu Zhu( Dian Wei shares his role) Shu: Pang Tong( He is only famous for Cheng Du) They could make him UNPC. Other: Zhu Rong |
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| kaiosuke37 | Sun Feb 6, 2011 11:37 am Post #9328 |
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Not these again. If you want Pang De, simply play DW5 Perhaps Koei should add him instead of Liao Hua? That would definitely make my day Anyways i wonder what exactly are they planning to showcase in this next PV. Considering that we'll have that and the full opening video left to show, I don't know what else they could feature.
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| Umbran.Komachi | Sun Feb 6, 2011 11:49 am Post #9329 |
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The presence of Liao Hua and Zhu Ran, and the absence fictional characters, unimportant normal wives and childish appearances is all I need for this awesome evolution of Dynasty Warriors improvement. |
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| Amy | Sun Feb 6, 2011 11:57 am Post #9330 |
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I personally don't care for Pang De but I really hope they do put him back. Not really fair if they bring back the others and leave him out. Seriously... Putting in Xing Cai and Da Qiao back over Pang De? Then adding Bao Sanniang who seems utterly pointless. I'm all for girl characters but I think it is quite ridiculous if they don't put him back in ![]() Anyway... I wonder if they will do a special pre-order thing for Europe? When DW6 came out I pre-ordered and thought I'd get the book thing and they didn't give me it. Instead they gave me a number to dial which was constantly engaged
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| Benzod | Sun Feb 6, 2011 12:22 pm Post #9331 |
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I don't own a PS2 anymore. Playing my DW5 disc would be quite a spectacular achievement without one.
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| kaiosuke37 | Sun Feb 6, 2011 12:27 pm Post #9332 |
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I suspected *someone* was going to say that But I mean, let's get over it. I'm really hate coming to this thread; hearing the same people moan about 1 character out of 63, I mean really?
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| Benzod | Sun Feb 6, 2011 12:34 pm Post #9333 |
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Moaning's fun. Espcecially if you know it's not going to help do anything other than irritate other people. If we're not getting him back, I'd at least like KOEI to give some sort of reason for it. |
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| kaiosuke37 | Sun Feb 6, 2011 12:42 pm Post #9334 |
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If the complainers would hold their horses and be patient enough to *wait til the game comes out*, without a doubt that we'll find out why Pang De isn't playable. Same went for Lady Bu; it was way too early for people to complain without knowing the main goals of the characters. |
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| Pride | Sun Feb 6, 2011 1:04 pm Post #9335 |
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Okay this is getting outta hand, I know the mods have told a lot of us to go the complains thread to throw any rant there and keep this thread peaceful, but apparently some members used that as a shield, telling members who dislike any KOEI decision to flock off, we're here to EXPRESS ourselves, we don't HAVE to like everything KOEI does, so stop kissing up their asses with your posts >,> As much as you have every right to admire KOEI's laziness and epic decisions, we also have our rights to say what we want, I know some posts went from fine criticising to childish whining, but that never means we have to like everything. We should balance things out, this game looks like a good improvement from DW6, we know that. The story looks deep and extended, classic gameplay is back, old weapons are back, kingdom musou and a lot of things we wanted. I give kudos to KOEI for that. But then again, I have to voice my complains too. I HATE how KOEI picked the characters they added in, leaving out the E-P-I-C Pang De, who wasn't utilised right in DW5, yet bringing back needless characters like the females they chose to add. Remind me what did Lian Shi do again? oh yeah, she had big boobies and refused to become an empress, or better, what did Bao Sanniang do? she didn't even LIVE and KOEI decided to give her an interesting story - she follows her husband around. Pang De's epic stand at Fan Castle gets left out because of that, plus, we can never see the epic dialogues we EXPECTED him to have with the likes of Guan Yu, Ma Chao, Cao Cao, Yu Jin and Cao Ren. I can write a full story for Pang De, dramatic, heroic, and I won't add anything from my imagination. It's easy and it is good, KOEI is doing a history/novel game, they can just pic things from the novel and throw in it the game, they never need to go work their brains to add things to the story, it's good but it's not needed. I place my bets that the story KOEI worked to come up with for Lian Shi, Bao Sanniang, and Cai Wenji is a LOT worse than Pang De's already made story, which KOEI could have pain attention to. Now comes the characters they didn't choose, Yu Jin, Yue Jin, Cao Zhen, Cao Zhang, Zhu Ran, Xu Sheng, Du Yu, Liao Hua , Sima Yan , Wen Yang , Wang Ping, Yan Yan and others. If KOEI adds all those characters, I'll still criticise them. Yes, they just need to add one or two of them each game, so that there is room for improvement in the other game. They can choose to add 'surprise' characters like Lian Shi once a game, they shouldn't add all of them in one game. The fact that they liked to add those characters instead of any those important characters sickens me. We need Wei's five tigers, we need epic later Wu generals, Jin could use some additions for later games, they shouldn't add Wen Yang, Du Yu and Sima Yan unless they choose to add Bao Sanniang.. oh wait, they did. Then comes the Shu bias. Okay, I know ROTK is Shu biased, I know the company likes to focus on the Shu story and give attention to their characters. I don't mind that, at all, but adding a crazy amount of Shu characters and leaving Wei and Wu with one or two new characters is really taking this to another level. Then comes the looks, from Xiahou Beiber to Lian Bayonetta. I like some designs, to be fair. Jia Xu looks amazing, Deng Ai looks acceptable though he shouldn't be portrayed as a wild warrior. Aside them, I'm not impressed. Almost none of the characters look chinese, and we have weird nowadays clothes that shouldn't be an ancient china. I don't care if the characters will look similar, I want chinese faces and ARMOUR, this is a WAR game with WARRIORS, not a disco playground with pretty bois and busty striper girls. Now the weapons, I don't mind the new weapon switching feature and I thought of the move set sharing thing when I read about the new system, I can suck it up specially that we have a different in stats and we have our ultimate weapons back. But cannons? drill spears? heh.. Yan Yan should get a sniper rifle then.. Then again, I'm not ranting, or whining. I'm showing off that I ,and other members, have our reasons to express our discomfort with certain features in the game, and to show to the members who started to act like mods and misunderstand mod's orders that they can't really send us to other threads or to DW5 for that matter, and we shouldn't like everything KOEI does. For myself, I know a game can never be perfect, specially a KOEI game. I appreciate certain additions KOEI have decided to add, yet I greatly dislike other sides of the game. Being interested in Jin's story, the new story-depth KOEI is promising, and some of my favourite characters additions, I'm getting this game nonetheless because in the end, I don't care much about character dress-ups or the stupid additions since they also have good additions like Deng Ai and Ding Feng, or the weird weapon choices because there are good ones too. I'll buy it, but I won't kiss KOEI's ass, thank you. |
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| Flashbang Incentive | Sun Feb 6, 2011 1:07 pm Post #9336 |
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Yes, but they have to create new movesets for the characters getting there old weapons back, as well as the new ones. So, there are some new things that they could show us. Definitely. |
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| Shi huangdi | Sun Feb 6, 2011 1:33 pm Post #9337 |
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THEY DONT NEED TO CUT ANNY CHARACTER |
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| nightmare25109 | Sun Feb 6, 2011 1:36 pm Post #9338 |
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Koei never tell us that DW7 will have clones again or not, they just give us some screen shot and game play, if DW7 has clones like Dw6 , they has already told us but they dont , I think they are hiding something until this game come out
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| WarHawk | Sun Feb 6, 2011 1:48 pm Post #9339 |
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Where did bandana go?
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Nasser you did a great job. Well done, man! Completely agree with most part of your post. Only one thing... just interesting what Yan Yan did besides Guan Du? He was a good Liu Zhang officer, but as Huang Zhong subofficer he had not many accomplishments (only Mt.Ding Jun where he was pretty useful). Although there are almost no info about his personallity, he had interesting relationship with Zhang Fei and what? And If Koei ever added him then they must add Cheng Pu ot it would be so irrational. At the same time Yan Yan (Fa Zheng, Li Yan and Zhang Yi/Ni) is much better addition than Guan Suo.
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| Pride | Sun Feb 6, 2011 2:03 pm Post #9340 |
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Thanks pal. For Yan Yan, I just named the characters on the top of my head. There are probably much better additions than him. But to answer your question, if they added Zhao Yun and made him the poster-boy because he saved Liu Shan (given the fact that Zhao Yun's pre-Liu Bei service and his stand at Hanzhong aren't emphasized in the game) Yan Yan could be good. I think Zitong would be good to add, reading it in the SGYY was really fun. Plus, he could spice Liu Bei's conquest in Yi, because Yan Yan was always against hosting Liu Bei in Yi in the first place. But yeah, Chen Pu, Chen Wu, Han Dang, Liao Hua, Zhang Ni, Fa Zheng, Yuan Shu and others are decent adds. About Guan Suo, we probably have enough Guan sons, but in the novel Suo is pretty epic I heard, not sure. |
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| WarHawk | Sun Feb 6, 2011 2:23 pm Post #9341 |
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Yeah Yan Yan is not a bad addition as it seem initially. Some time ago I was conversly against his addition, but when read his bio I started like him more. From other side of view I highly doubted that Koei ever added him. |
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| Benzod | Sun Feb 6, 2011 2:45 pm Post #9342 |
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I'd like him to be a mix of Suo and Xing. Even though Xing would always have been my first choice, with the other two added I'd rather not see all three. Though with Bao Sanniang being added, I worry he might not be as badass as he could potentially be and be part of an irritaing couple. |
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| WarHawk | Sun Feb 6, 2011 2:56 pm Post #9343 |
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Who knows... maybe KOEI loves Guan family so much that in next installment we`ll see Guan Xing (along with Zhang Bao) and someone close to Yu like fictional Zhou Cang or much better variant Liao Hua. The only thing I know for sure, KOEI loves Shu.
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| Deleted User | Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:10 pm Post #9344 |
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Jiang Wei, Ma Chao and Zhao Yun shares the same moveset. If someone...want to cut a character, first let's improve other things... Btw...on SW1, Ieasu T, for example, was an NPC but has his own costume... and then was added to play. I think that koei should do that, and if the character is OK , add to our list of playable characters
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| pariah. | Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:21 pm Post #9345 |
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Seriously guys this is getting old let the Pang De protesting end |
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| D4N | Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:24 pm Post #9346 |
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People won't until he returns I guess. |
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| kaiosuke37 | Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:31 pm Post #9347 |
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Dude . . . I only read like half of that . . . anyways, regardless whether or not you may feel that your *EVERY* opinion *HAS* to be expessed in a thread solely about the upcoming game, all opinions don't have to be said. There's a thing called respect, stop hiding behind that *I have a right to my opinions* crap. The fact that you *DO* know that there's a complaint thread for your own self-proclaimed opinions, you've come here to cause problems. Obviously it's hard for those to follow the rules, which is why some feel compelled to express how annoying it is to read that same history crap ![]() I can't express how irritated I get when fan-nerds start throwing the history card. Who cares if so and so did this and that? I'm obviously not here for a history lesson, nor am I playing these games for that matter. You should know that Koei feels the same way; they're not making these games to make you pass your history class. Saying that females/fictional characters are useless is completely based off of your *EGO* and *PERSONAL WANTS*, because to my understanding, 98% of videogames have fictional characters and that'll never change. The only thing historical characters provide, are out of the ordinary scenarios, which is all Koei cared about, (which all I care about). It's not like the fictional characters Koei has been bringing in DW7 have been pulled out of this random hat. They didn't exist, but they had their foklore. Whether or you may feel that you have to post here to keep this supposingly *hype* going, it would be better to stop wasting time on things that have been buried beyond the grave. Simply do not post. This thread doesn't need to be a non-stop kind. No new info = no posting, simple as that.
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| Reverie | Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:37 pm Post #9348 |
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And you got this information from? I really shouldn't have quoted this cause this is so untrue about those three having the same moveset. The PV proves it and I'll back that up, look at Zhao Yuns starting moveset and the generic officer's moveset who has a spear. Edited by Reverie, Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:40 pm.
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| Valvatorez | Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:38 pm Post #9349 |
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I Fully agree with you Kaiosuke |
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| SazukeEX | Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:45 pm Post #9350 |
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Behold Sun Shi! The Fiery Tiger Cub of Sun Ce, Lu Xun's Tigress, and the Mother Tiger of Lu Kang!
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Well, it's a pity but this is Koei. To them it's okay to have another Shu Emperor but somehow Sun Quan must be te neglected child withut personality and the last and only Wu Emperor. Nevermind how they'll handle the Sima Family situation and which one will end up ruling the land since they're missing important characters... Mos importantly Sima Yan who was the guy that actualy conquered the land. As for that comment about blasting history and calling them nerds. Stop. Why the heck do you play this game than? Maybe we should cut Lu Bu and replace him with an Enunch? Since you don't care about history than I'm sure you wont care if there was no Lu Bu in this game since you don't care what extrodinary things they people do. So, replace Lu Bu with a no name that did nothing since you just don't care. I'm sure you'll change your tune fast enough when you see Lu Bu as a random generic and you're stuck with a high pitched old man with anime hair. Edited by SazukeEX, Sun Feb 6, 2011 3:48 pm.
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Not these again. If you want Pang De, simply play DW5
i wonder what exactly are they planning to showcase in this next PV. Considering that we'll have that and the full opening video left to show, I don't know what else they could feature.











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