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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,696 Views)
Ranger Strider
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marysonnie
Wed Feb 9, 2011 12:59 am
Avieure
Wed Feb 9, 2011 12:21 am
Maybe Koei leaked the list on purpose to fool us into thinking that was everyone! :OMG:

...probably not though.
Yeah, I don't get the impression they'd do that, but I'm only saying that because I really want Pang De back.

And sometimes it's not even the hilarious quality of the voice acting that makes it so funny, it's the script their given to work with.
Well... the person who saw the roster didn't tell us what the left over Wei Characters look liked so... Thats one of the reasons I still think Pang De is in.
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When we think really optimistic about Pang De, and are still hoping for his return in the last batch(es), then, the reason why Koei has not revealed him yet, is because:

He had/has his fans, but not so many as expected. Koei wanted to completely rework and improve him. And then, Koei reveals him in the final scans. His fans, which already lost their hopes for him, are very pleased only by his presence.
And because of his new and better look, he would just win much more fans.
Even the ones, which never liked him.
I think he should keep his personality from DW5, but with much more than only that. His face/head should be the same. He should be much more faster. And because of Xiahou Ba, who has the most of his look from DW5, he should look much more different than the last time. And about his weapon,...yeah..., it would be surely the same type as Zhang Liao's.
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Wed Feb 9, 2011 1:04 am
what about xu huang??? wasnt he in the trailer. Doesn't he throw that chained ball at zhao yun?
The list you quoted also left off Guan Yu and Zhang Fei. I guess it was treating the three of them as confirmed already because we got a peek at them in the trailer.

Wasn't there a tweet from Koei confirming the cutting of Zuo Ci and Pang De? Am I mistaken?
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Jiang Wei1
Wed Feb 9, 2011 1:04 am
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Wed Feb 9, 2011 12:09 am
Blaziruku
Wed Feb 9, 2011 12:05 am
WarHawk
Tue Feb 8, 2011 12:27 pm
Surprise character is possible, maybe first Other forces add. Although I`m not sure that there are high chances of it.
Just wondering, what makes it the final roster? (like no new character adds anymore) just wondering, did they announce it somewhere?
We have had a leaked list of the new characters and cut characters according to people on this site, who got there info from someplace else apparently

we have

Guan Ping
Pang Tong
Wei Yan

Cao Pi
Xu Zhu

Gan Ning
Huang Gai
Sun Jian
And
Diao Chan

left and the last new character is apparently Guan Suo. The rumour list has been correct on everything, including saying that Pang De and Zuo Ci will stay cut... So in the end, we are all sticking by that and calling it the official Dw7 Roster. Anything can happen though, I would like to know how the starter of that list got hold of the information in the first place :mellow:
what about xu huang??? wasnt he in the trailer. Doesn't he throw that chained ball at zhao yun?
Well, yeh ok.. if we are going to play it that way, that would also add Guan Yu and Zhang Fei to be shown aswell.
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English voices should arrive here tommorow and the PV should soon follow :D

The week seems to be going quick well for me at least we're getting close to halfway through the month before we know it it'll be March in no time :sly:
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I just hope the next wave of character reveals aren't as...awkward...as last week's, where we only saw three CG artworks even though there were screenshots of Pang Tong and Wei Yan. It just struck me as abnormal.

I'm really interested in the PV: I want to hear some more English voices.
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Joetri10
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marysonnie
Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:00 am
I just hope the next wave of character reveals aren't as...awkward...as last week's, where we only saw three CG artworks even though there were screenshots of Pang Tong and Wei Yan. It just struck me as abnormal.

I'm really interested in the PV: I want to hear some more English voices.
Maybe because the pictures weren’t focusing on Wei Yan and Pang Tong like the rest, maybe it was what they were showing gameplay wise which was the important thing -_-
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Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:07 am
Maybe because the pictures weren’t focusing on Wei Yan and Pang Tong like the rest, maybe it was what they were showing gameplay wise which was the important thing -_-
Eh, just seemed a little weird releasing three CG artworks rather than five or six is all. Meng Huo and Zhu Rong popped up in gameplay screenshots first as well. Maybe they'll have more gameplay footage in the PV.
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Tue Feb 8, 2011 9:43 pm
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Tue Feb 8, 2011 9:28 pm
they have had great voice actors (Kirk,Travis,Beau) but have a horrible voice director. Even the greatest actors can be distorted with a horrible director
Good actors can also have trouble compensating for the shortcomings in the recording process. According to an article I read a while back, video game scripts are often organized for the convenience of the programmers rather than the benefit of the actors. Instead of full scenes of dialog, an actor may get a list of lines outside their original context. They may not have much information about the ideal characterization and delivery, much less any real chance to practice speaking in a convincing manner. Basically, the actor is tasked to do a serviceable job with each line on the list, and that's all we get.

Edit: Found an article that goes into more detail.
-_-

Just goes to show that the certain "fun" factor is not there anymore. In the West, VA-ing is just seen as another job.

Can't say the same in Japan, where seiyuus are practical celebrities.
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I just wanna see Xu Huang...I hope he's in the new PV.
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jsully16
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I'm all for blind optimism but the sands of time for Pang De are running low.

Just submit to the awesomeness that is Lian Shi. Lian Shi >>>>> Pang De, who cares about real life heroes anyway, I much prefer the wife with a fake name Koei dreamed up.

~LSFE
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Xalfrea
Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:22 am
Rydain
Tue Feb 8, 2011 9:43 pm
Tazzy_Da_Legend
Tue Feb 8, 2011 9:28 pm
they have had great voice actors (Kirk,Travis,Beau) but have a horrible voice director. Even the greatest actors can be distorted with a horrible director
Good actors can also have trouble compensating for the shortcomings in the recording process. According to an article I read a while back, video game scripts are often organized for the convenience of the programmers rather than the benefit of the actors. Instead of full scenes of dialog, an actor may get a list of lines outside their original context. They may not have much information about the ideal characterization and delivery, much less any real chance to practice speaking in a convincing manner. Basically, the actor is tasked to do a serviceable job with each line on the list, and that's all we get.

Edit: Found an article that goes into more detail.
-_-

Just goes to show that the certain "fun" factor is not there anymore. In the West, VA-ing is just seen as another job.

Can't say the same in Japan, where seiyuus are practical celebrities.
I don’t think it’s so much the fact that Va'ing is just another job in western games, but more the type of game they are giving their voice to... In a lot of games I’ve played Eg: Ffx and Ratchet and Clank 3 come to mind seeing as the main Va “James A Taylor” who voices Tidus and Ratchet does an amazing job with those games and others I have seen, and not to give any less credit to the cast of Ffx who also do an amazing job. I've actually seen interviews with the actors in which they talk about how much time and thought they put into the voice and even the character and how much they enjoy it.

In Japan, The warrior’s series is a very popular game by my understanding... However as for us oversea its barely mentioned and meets a lot of criticism. If it wasn’t for us, the hardcore fanbase, I don’t even think we would get these games... And that’s why I think the Va's do a quick and half assed job, because to them it’s not even important, even to the top Va's and the recording studio being used... That’s why I’m not surprised when i see that the Va's aren’t even credited. In my opinion, Sw2 had the best Va work because the people employed to provide the voices don’t have much work and although the studio is small and not equipped with the best recording equipment still tried there hardest with the pleasure of providing voices for such a game.

I find it intriguing to think how Nintendo might go about getting Va's and the quality of work for their games, seeing as most of their most popular games don’t even have any real Va work, and yet the Va for Mario is highly praised, even for his 5 or 6 lines in every game.

It's a shame we cant get Va work as good as that provided for the Final Fantasy series :/ .


Also as for this Pang De issue, talking about him in every page forever isn’t going to bring him back, if he’s gone, he’s gone... He could always come back in Empires or any other games in which they decide to expand the 7th series on (take strikeforce 3 for example) I’m tired of seeing the name Pang De is so much spam :kurokan:
Edited by Joetri10, Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:55 am.
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jsully16
Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:46 am
I'm all for blind optimism but the sands of time for Pang De are running low.

Just submit to the awesomeness that is Lian Shi. Lian Shi >>>>> Pang De, who cares about real life heroes anyway, I much prefer the wife with a fake name Koei dreamed up.

~LSFE
The name Lian Shi is real. They say its her taboo name. :/
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*Crosses fingers that about 75 percent of the english vas will be decent or good or better.

First promo was about Jin, so I think it's fast to say that the next one will have the new chars for the other kingdoms more gameplay and info on conquest/chronicle mode.
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Look, all I care about is that Tony Oliver isn't going to mess up Lu Meng or Xiahou Yuan again... I swear, if the website updates and YOU-KNOW-WHO's voice comes out of either of those two characters, I will be taking refuge in the Complaints thread.

I don't expect them to get Daran Norris or Steve Blum back, but get Tony off of those characters and into characters he CAN do well. I can see him doing a fine Liu Chan; his role as Ma Chao in DW4 wasn't bad either. Those are his types, not gruffy sounding men!
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So the site should be updated this friday? Am I correct?
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the official site is down atm,so i guess they are setting up the PV unless its routine maintenance
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I'm sick of the overuse of V.A's from Funi,seriously its annoying.New talent please? They even had an Au voice actor in ff13,and she did an awsome job.
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I'm still curious to see if any new weapons or former weapons will be added back in. I'm hoping they return Xu Huang's battle axe, Gan Ning's daggers, Huang Gai's iron rod, and Diao Chan's whip. As for Guan Suo, I'm hoping for a weapon like Jiang Wei's twin spears from Strikeforce.
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ShuLegend
Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:13 am
the official site is down atm,so i guess they are setting up the PV unless its routine maintenance
I half wonder how many of us here are going to be slamming down on the REFRESH button tonight.

I'm not sure what I want from the upcoming PV, really. Maybe less Jin heavy and all kingdom-oriented heavy. Yes, Jin is the new shiny thing this year but do try to remember that there are three other kingdoms (and other smaller kingdoms) beyond them.

I've heard enough Zhong Hui to last me the entire game- better believe I'm going to mute his ass if they don't give us the Japanese option.
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ChibiGingi
Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:29 am
ShuLegend
Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:13 am
the official site is down atm,so i guess they are setting up the PV unless its routine maintenance
I half wonder how many of us here are going to be slamming down on the REFRESH button tonight.

I'm not sure what I want from the upcoming PV, really. Maybe less Jin heavy and all kingdom-oriented heavy. Yes, Jin is the new shiny thing this year but do try to remember that there are three other kingdoms (and other smaller kingdoms) beyond them.

I've heard enough Zhong Hui to last me the entire game- better believe I'm going to mute his ass if they don't give us the Japanese option.
Ha ha if I were japanese I'd be muting Ma Dai's voice and Zhang Jiao's voice.
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Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:35 am
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Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:29 am
ShuLegend
Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:13 am
the official site is down atm,so i guess they are setting up the PV unless its routine maintenance
I half wonder how many of us here are going to be slamming down on the REFRESH button tonight.

I'm not sure what I want from the upcoming PV, really. Maybe less Jin heavy and all kingdom-oriented heavy. Yes, Jin is the new shiny thing this year but do try to remember that there are three other kingdoms (and other smaller kingdoms) beyond them.

I've heard enough Zhong Hui to last me the entire game- better believe I'm going to mute his ass if they don't give us the Japanese option.
Ha ha if I were japanese I'd be muting Ma Dai's voice and Zhang Jiao's voice.
Speaking of Ma Dai, who shares the same VA as Yuan Shao, I'm hoping they get Paul St. Peter back in as that character. I miss that lovable oaf so freakin' much, but I won't hold my breath.

*is very serious about the Tony Oliver bit*
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I remember last time a PV was coming out....The site was down at around the same time on a tuesday (wednesday Japan) aswell but nothing new was on it once it was back up again so I don't think we will see new content once it comes back up this time either.

Also, I can't be arsed to scroll through the 30 or so pages that have appeared since I last posted so can anyone quickly fill me in on anything I have missed?

Any updates?
New tweets?
Anything in Famitsu this week etc

Much appreciated :)
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@mrnoonoo well the most recent thing would be english voices on the english site which has most members (Chibi)on edge about the their favorite character being assigned a goo voice actor
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Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:46 am
@mrnoonoo well the most recent thing would be english voices on the english site which has most members (Chibi)on edge about the their favorite character being assigned a goo voice actor
Most likely lots of crappy ones and some that just stayed to help us and our ears.

KOEI is too cheap to get any GOOD actors. WHOA YOU DO VA AND YOUR CHEAP?! *buys*
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