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With the way the game is structured, I see no need for kingdom aligned UNPC, especially Pang De. Clone him to Zhang Liao, give him some unique quotes, ex attack, and musou attacks, how hard is that? Same goes for a lot of characters.

Now, "Other" UNPC, I CAN see.....
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Yeah I'm excited to see the different versions of generics we would see.

Basically, they would look similar to each other but have unique clothing and such.

Guan Xing and Zhang Bao?! I hope they have some cool looking generic stuff and wields their father's blades. I don't even care if they are playable or not, just in a battle I see them and can assume "Oh, Guan Xing is kicking ass".

Really digging this new generic officer stuff.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 am
Don`t loose hope that will be some important unpc like Pang De, Liao Hua and Zhu Ran. Chances are critically small, but who knows. Maybe Koei wanted add Pang De in the game, they just didn`t come to one right solution (appearance, ex-weapon, story details). Need more time, maybe after 6 month Koei revealed some dlc character`s pack with Zuo Ci, Pang De and few brand new names. As for now I`m pretty excited to see full image of Wei Yan, Cao Pi, Sun Jian, Diao Chan and Gan Ning.
Honestly I'd rather see Pang De not return in any shape or form at all, even if it's UNPC or a generic on the field (in this game, I mean. I want him to return in the future installments). Because that seems like a harsher slap to the face, at least to me. They obviously were able to do this in DW6 with the cut characters (some get honorable mention in Lu Bu's ending), but to cut them out, just to put him as a generic or UNPC? Why bother?

As for Zhu Ran or Liao Hua, I wouldn't object so much if they were UNPC, or important NPCs. Come DW8, one if not both better be playable though.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:07 am.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:06 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 am
Don`t loose hope that will be some important unpc like Pang De, Liao Hua and Zhu Ran. Chances are critically small, but who knows. Maybe Koei wanted add Pang De in the game, they just didn`t come to one right solution (appearance, ex-weapon, story details). Need more time, maybe after 6 month Koei revealed some dlc character`s pack with Zuo Ci, Pang De and few brand new names. As for now I`m pretty excited to see full image of Wei Yan, Cao Pi, Sun Jian, Diao Chan and Gan Ning.
Honestly I'd rather see Pang De not return in any shape or form at all, even if it's UNPC or a generic on the field. Because that seems like a harsher slap to the face, at least to me. They obviously were able to do this in DW6 with the cut characters (some get honorable mention in Lu Bu's ending), but to cut them out, just to put him as a generic or UNPC? Why bother?

As for Zhu Ran or Liao Hua, I wouldn't object so much if they were UNPC, or important NPCs. Come DW8, one if not both better be playable though.
and still Pang De was never actually mentioned in that cutscene :XD :whistle:
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Joetri10
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:07 am
ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:06 am
WarHawk
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 am
Don`t loose hope that will be some important unpc like Pang De, Liao Hua and Zhu Ran. Chances are critically small, but who knows. Maybe Koei wanted add Pang De in the game, they just didn`t come to one right solution (appearance, ex-weapon, story details). Need more time, maybe after 6 month Koei revealed some dlc character`s pack with Zuo Ci, Pang De and few brand new names. As for now I`m pretty excited to see full image of Wei Yan, Cao Pi, Sun Jian, Diao Chan and Gan Ning.
Honestly I'd rather see Pang De not return in any shape or form at all, even if it's UNPC or a generic on the field. Because that seems like a harsher slap to the face, at least to me. They obviously were able to do this in DW6 with the cut characters (some get honorable mention in Lu Bu's ending), but to cut them out, just to put him as a generic or UNPC? Why bother?

As for Zhu Ran or Liao Hua, I wouldn't object so much if they were UNPC, or important NPCs. Come DW8, one if not both better be playable though.
and still Pang De was never actually mentioned in that cutscene :XD :whistle:
Of course not. Who would remember poor Pang De when you have the Nanman and "daughter of Zhang Fei" to contend with. Seriously, I lol'd so hard that she was even worthy of an honorable mention considering her shoddy performance in DW6 DW5. (My opinion changed a little for WO, though)

Edit: Got my numbers mixed up. Sorry.
Edited by ChibiGingi, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:14 am.
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Just so people will know. Sima Zhao's S-string started to become different from Xiahou Dun's Dao. Compare them and you will see.
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ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:09 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:07 am
ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:06 am
WarHawk
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 am
Don`t loose hope that will be some important unpc like Pang De, Liao Hua and Zhu Ran. Chances are critically small, but who knows. Maybe Koei wanted add Pang De in the game, they just didn`t come to one right solution (appearance, ex-weapon, story details). Need more time, maybe after 6 month Koei revealed some dlc character`s pack with Zuo Ci, Pang De and few brand new names. As for now I`m pretty excited to see full image of Wei Yan, Cao Pi, Sun Jian, Diao Chan and Gan Ning.
Honestly I'd rather see Pang De not return in any shape or form at all, even if it's UNPC or a generic on the field. Because that seems like a harsher slap to the face, at least to me. They obviously were able to do this in DW6 with the cut characters (some get honorable mention in Lu Bu's ending), but to cut them out, just to put him as a generic or UNPC? Why bother?

As for Zhu Ran or Liao Hua, I wouldn't object so much if they were UNPC, or important NPCs. Come DW8, one if not both better be playable though.
and still Pang De was never actually mentioned in that cutscene :XD :whistle:
Of course not. Who would remember poor Pang De when you have the Nanman and "daughter of Zhang Fei" to contend with. Seriously, I lol'd so hard that she was even worthy of an honorable mention considering her shoddy performance in DW6 DW5. (My opinion changed a little for WO, though)

Edit: Got my numbers mixed up. Sorry.
:XD

Ive heard about people asking Koei questions, i wonder if anyone has actually asked why they have left Pang De to one side like this :blink:

Someone from this forum should do that
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:12 am
Just so people will know. Sima Zhao's S-string started to become different from Xiahou Dun's Dao. Compare them and you will see.
I checked this out right now just because I'm tired of people saying this. I played them so they would be timed correctly (one after another), side by side, and they are exactly the same, admittedly we haven't seen the end of the S-string, so I suppose you could hope that the ends will be unique, but regardless, the move sets are the same.
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You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
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Joetri10
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:16 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:09 am
Joetri10
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:07 am
ChibiGingi
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:06 am
WarHawk
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:01 am
Don`t loose hope that will be some important unpc like Pang De, Liao Hua and Zhu Ran. Chances are critically small, but who knows. Maybe Koei wanted add Pang De in the game, they just didn`t come to one right solution (appearance, ex-weapon, story details). Need more time, maybe after 6 month Koei revealed some dlc character`s pack with Zuo Ci, Pang De and few brand new names. As for now I`m pretty excited to see full image of Wei Yan, Cao Pi, Sun Jian, Diao Chan and Gan Ning.
Honestly I'd rather see Pang De not return in any shape or form at all, even if it's UNPC or a generic on the field. Because that seems like a harsher slap to the face, at least to me. They obviously were able to do this in DW6 with the cut characters (some get honorable mention in Lu Bu's ending), but to cut them out, just to put him as a generic or UNPC? Why bother?

As for Zhu Ran or Liao Hua, I wouldn't object so much if they were UNPC, or important NPCs. Come DW8, one if not both better be playable though.
and still Pang De was never actually mentioned in that cutscene :XD :whistle:
Of course not. Who would remember poor Pang De when you have the Nanman and "daughter of Zhang Fei" to contend with. Seriously, I lol'd so hard that she was even worthy of an honorable mention considering her shoddy performance in DW6 DW5. (My opinion changed a little for WO, though)

Edit: Got my numbers mixed up. Sorry.
:XD

Ive heard about people asking Koei questions, i wonder if anyone has actually asked why they have left Pang De to one side like this :blink:

Someone from this forum should do that
Little Conqueror asked on twitter about reason Pang De being cut out from series and guess some other people asked too... but it`s Koei. They don`t want answer on questions linked with game roster. :hmmm: Too bad... <_<
Edited by WarHawk, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:25 am.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
As much as that would help, i don’t think it would be right to the fans and the character to ignore him for so many games and then throw him back as DLC.. if they are going to bring him back, i think he should be involved in the Main story and not something like conquest mode, also it would be quite tricky for him to have interactions with people if he was brought in the game in such a game wouldn’t it? :S.

Either bring him back completely or not at all... I’m with Chibi


And thats a shame :/.. maybe they have something planned with him and they just dont want to give out info... Maybe we will be seeing a Dw7X or something similer (as they seem to like this X buisness now '.')
Edited by Joetri10, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:28 am.
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Hello, I am thinking about buying a PS3 so I can play the Japanese version. I have some questions:

I heard that the PS3 is region-lock free; is this true?

Also, where would be the best site to buy it?

Thanks!
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:03 am
"One of the outstanding warriors named as one of the Five Generals of Wei. With a fascinating sort of charm, this man maintains the air of a gentleman. He is proficient not only in the military arts, but also in literature and music."

Maybe it's just hot air, but that description of Zhang He is fantastic. He stiill sounds eccentric but they've mentioned his historical love of literature and music. Here's hoping his VA can do the description justice.

*Clicks on Zhang He's voice button*

<_< Nope, same old cringe worthy Zhang He as before. I guess I was naive to think he would ever change.
Ha! I went through the same series of feelings. It's the same voice actor, why the hell can't he return to semi-normal form from DW5? Someone e-mail Chin and tell him to hire me as the head of voice actor talent, because someone is really making a mess of out this.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
My attitude to Pang De was always positive. I`m fan of Ma Chao. So Pang De addition was as swallow of fresh air in DW5. I waited only Ma Dai then... but now when Ma Dai was added and Pang De is still cut out I just don`t understand Koei motives not returning him.
Edited by WarHawk, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:30 am.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
My attitude to Pang De was always positive. I`m fan of Ma Chao. So Pang De addition was as swallow of fresh air in DW5. I waited only Ma Dai then... but now when Ma Dai was added and Pang De is still cut out I just don`t understand Koei motives not returning him.
I'm actually the EXACT same way... Ever since I started playing DW I was a Ma Chao fan, and with Ma Chao, was Pang De... He just grew on me. And now we have Ma Dai as well, but no Pang De?! What is wrong with KOEI????
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Joetri10
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:26 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
As much as that would help, i don’t think it would be right to the fans and the character to ignore him for so many games and then throw him back as DLC.. if they are going to bring him back, i think he should be involved in the Main story and not something like conquest mode, also it would be quite tricky for him to have interactions with people if he was brought in the game in such a game wouldn’t it? :S.

Either bring him back completely or not at all... I’m with Chibi


And thats a shame :/.. maybe they have something planned with him and they just dont want to give out info... Maybe we will be seeing a Dw7X or something similer (as they seem to like this X buisness now '.')
With dlc characters Koei also make rechange some structure of Kingdom mode and add pair of completely new cutscenes. It`s not so hard work for such a big stuff.

Edit. As example of story`s changing for some characters from main roster - SW2XL where were added completely new Chosokabe Motochika, Maeda Toshiie and Gracia Hosokawa.
Edited by WarHawk, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:37 am.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
My attitude to Pang De was always positive. I`m fan of Ma Chao. So Pang De addition was as swallow of fresh air in DW5. I waited only Ma Dai then... but now when Ma Dai was added and Pang De is still cut out I just don`t understand Koei motives not returning him.
Probably bonked themselves in the head, maybe he might appear somewhere in the scans in the weeks to come? I hope he comes back, he's the only character besides Zuo Ci to be *cut* they added a bunch of new dudes (some great ones, and not so great) and the rest have returned too, so it makes me think why would they cut him? We still haven't seen the FINAL roster yet, he might appear, since cutting just one(2) guys doesn't seem right.

Hmm I didn't notice that.
Xiahou and Sima Zhao seem to have the same moveset, but the charge attacks seem different? I just knew Sima Shi would get hit in the mask and not get injured. :P DENG AI FTW, but in the video he didn't strike at the bad guy with his weapon after.
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It makes sense that the movements would be the same now that I think about it. They're adding so many weapons and to have different movesets for each weapon would take a lot, and I'm sure that having weapons in the same class + different movesets—i.e Dun and Zhao having the dao blade but different attacks entirely—is MURDER. Imagine having 360 weapons whose moveset changes with 62 characters. If you were working that, it would indeed be murder.

The best thing to separate the characters? The EX/Musou attacks.
Edited by bluebolting, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:41 am.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:30 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
My attitude to Pang De was always positive. I`m fan of Ma Chao. So Pang De addition was as swallow of fresh air in DW5. I waited only Ma Dai then... but now when Ma Dai was added and Pang De is still cut out I just don`t understand Koei motives not returning him.
I'm actually the EXACT same way... Ever since I started playing DW I was a Ma Chao fan, and with Ma Chao, was Pang De... He just grew on me. And now we have Ma Dai as well, but no Pang De?! What is wrong with KOEI????
You said the reason in your previous post. (at least one of them) Maybe Koei want get additional profit by adding him in later dlc. Koei last warrior`s game Gundam Musou already have almost ten (little exaggerating, 6-7) new dlc characters. They also make back three cut characters to SW3 in dlcs. So DW7 shouldn`t be exception. Will be waiting fresh news about dlc packs.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:34 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:26 am
BluueJay
Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
As much as that would help, i don’t think it would be right to the fans and the character to ignore him for so many games and then throw him back as DLC.. if they are going to bring him back, i think he should be involved in the Main story and not something like conquest mode, also it would be quite tricky for him to have interactions with people if he was brought in the game in such a game wouldn’t it? :S.

Either bring him back completely or not at all... I’m with Chibi


And thats a shame :/.. maybe they have something planned with him and they just dont want to give out info... Maybe we will be seeing a Dw7X or something similer (as they seem to like this X buisness now '.')
With dlc characters Koei also make rechange some structure of Kingdom mode and add pair of completely new cutscenes. It`s not so hard work for such a big stuff.

Edit. As example of story`s changing for some characters from main roster - SW2XL where were added completely new Chosokabe Motochika, Maeda Toshiie and Gracia Hosokawa.
Wouldn’t that be a little complicated, remember we are talking about a big mode here... alot would have to be affected in a few ways. Now something like conquest mode would be easy as he’s own cut scenes and interactions would come packaged with the download, however i don’t think that’s right that they give him the treatment the "other" characters have

Also those examples fall flat as the only differences sw2xl made to the main stories were there intro scenes changed when approached... Gracia never even appeared outside of her own story mode. I don’t think motochika was either.

Unless im missing something '.'.. I had the Ps2 version.

Also sw3xl is a downloadable add on pack game. There is a lot more to it... Now if we are talking about Dw7xl along the lines then yeh, that could work alot better... I think :wacko: .

Musou/Story mode is alot different then Kingdom mode.
Edited by Joetri10, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:48 am.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:38 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:30 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
My attitude to Pang De was always positive. I`m fan of Ma Chao. So Pang De addition was as swallow of fresh air in DW5. I waited only Ma Dai then... but now when Ma Dai was added and Pang De is still cut out I just don`t understand Koei motives not returning him.
Probably bonked themselves in the head, maybe he might appear somewhere in the scans in the weeks to come? I hope he comes back, he's the only character besides Zuo Ci to be *cut* they added a bunch of new dudes (some great ones, and not so great) and the rest have returned too, so it makes me think why would they cut him? We still haven't seen the FINAL roster yet, he might appear, since cutting just one(2) guys doesn't seem right.

Hmm I didn't notice that.
Xiahou and Sima Zhao seem to have the same moveset, but the charge attacks seem different? I just knew Sima Shi would get hit in the mask and not get injured. :P DENG AI FTW, but in the video he didn't strike at the bad guy with his weapon after.
Even If he appears, his role will be as NPC. It was already confirmed that Wei final roster have 13 characters.
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I don't really have a prob with any of the VAs cept for switching QUAN! DAMNIT KOEI! if you had to cause he was busy or not doing VA work fine, but least ye could have replaced him with a decent sounding replacement!

DAMNIT!

Oh well, least Ce's still Yuri, i can live.

As for Zhou Yu, to me he still sounds similar to Michael Sinterniklaas, not Tony.
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:34 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:26 am
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Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:23 am
You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
As much as that would help, i don’t think it would be right to the fans and the character to ignore him for so many games and then throw him back as DLC.. if they are going to bring him back, i think he should be involved in the Main story and not something like conquest mode, also it would be quite tricky for him to have interactions with people if he was brought in the game in such a game wouldn’t it? :S.

Either bring him back completely or not at all... I’m with Chibi


And thats a shame :/.. maybe they have something planned with him and they just dont want to give out info... Maybe we will be seeing a Dw7X or something similer (as they seem to like this X buisness now '.')
With dlc characters Koei also make rechange some structure of Kingdom mode and add pair of completely new cutscenes. It`s not so hard work for such a big stuff.

Edit. As example of story`s changing for some characters from main roster - SW2XL where were added completely new Chosokabe Motochika, Maeda Toshiie and Gracia Hosokawa.
Wouldn’t that be a little complicated, remember we are talking about a big mode here... alot would have to be affected in a few ways. Now something like conquest mode would be easy as he’s own cut scenes and interactions would come packaged with the download, however i don’t think that’s right that they give him the treatment the other"other" characters have

Also those examples fall flat as the only differences sw2xl made to the main stories were there intro scenes changed when approached... Gracia never even appeared outside of her own story mode. I don’t think motochika was either.

Unless im missing something '.'.. I had the Ps2 version.

Also sw3xl is a downloadable add on pack game. There is a lot more to it... Now if we are talking about Dw7xl along the lines then yeh, that could work alot better... I think :wacko: .

Musou/Story mode is alot different then Kingdom mode.
I know it, but Koei may rechange some thing a little bit, like add a few new cutscenes (in Fan Castle and Tong Gate) where he`ll appear and get him some a stage in Kingdom Mode. Maybe Cao Ren has now Fan Castle. After Pang De`s addition, they both divided this stage on two parts and some new interactions will appear. As example with Guan Yu and generic Yu Jin. Tong Gate battle will be his best soul reincarnation in conquest mode, when he joined to Ma Chao and Ma Dai fight with Cao Cao forces. He could be not presented in DW7 at all, but some hints on his future inclusion is still possible.
Edited by WarHawk, Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:54 am.
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You know... Its actually funny, with Pang De being cut, he's actually risen in popularity... Tremendously... Nobody gave a crap about him before (except for me and a couple others), now people want him back. (or... a lot of people)

I can defiantly see KOEI bringing him back in a DLC pack for $5 or something, same for Zuo Ci actually. Its completely possible and very likely to happen. There's always still hope, for Pang De, and all the others characters we want in the game.
My attitude to Pang De was always positive. I`m fan of Ma Chao. So Pang De addition was as swallow of fresh air in DW5. I waited only Ma Dai then... but now when Ma Dai was added and Pang De is still cut out I just don`t understand Koei motives not returning him.
Probably bonked themselves in the head, maybe he might appear somewhere in the scans in the weeks to come? I hope he comes back, he's the only character besides Zuo Ci to be *cut* they added a bunch of new dudes (some great ones, and not so great) and the rest have returned too, so it makes me think why would they cut him? We still haven't seen the FINAL roster yet, he might appear, since cutting just one(2) guys doesn't seem right.

Hmm I didn't notice that.
Xiahou and Sima Zhao seem to have the same moveset, but the charge attacks seem different? I just knew Sima Shi would get hit in the mask and not get injured. :P DENG AI FTW, but in the video he didn't strike at the bad guy with his weapon after.
Even If he appears, his role will be as NPC. It was already confirmed that Wei final roster have 13 characters.
NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well at least make him an NPC, would seem weird to remove NPCS meant to be there. DLC KOEI? :hehe:
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I still have a little bit of hope that he'd come in the scans.... Who knows when that guy tested the game... What if they decided to include Pang De in the game AFTER he played the game? Its a possibility.

And its a very high chance they could include him in DLC. No matter what you guys say. It doesn't matter how "hard" it is to add him to the game, even with kingdom mode.
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