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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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Hanzo Hattori
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:42 am
mrnoonoo
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:39 am
If Pang De is not going to be in the game as a playable character then I do not want him in the game at all, not even as a generic.

This would just frustrate people.

It really would like be Koei saying "we haven't forgotten about him, but he's just not important enought to us to be a proper character anymore" - It would be a complete slap in the face to his fans.
meh... just give it a little time

I thought KOEI said that all cut characters were returning, right?

I am sure Pang De will be within the scans.

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Hmmm, there's a recurring rumor on 2ch regarding characters that just popped up again in their DW7 thread.

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694 名無し曰く、[sage] 2010/12/16(木) 00:30:09 ID:me/KXI5T

そろそろリークしていいか?
残りの新キャラ
賈ク・夏侯覇・劉禅・関索・歩夫人
ちなみにホウ徳・左慈はリストラ


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Mind if I leak now?
Remaining new characters
Jia Xu/Xiahou Ba/Liu Chan/Guan Suo/Hofujin
Also Pang De and Zuo Ci are still cut


Seems this leak has been posted more often lately due to the character reveals matching up, especially with Xiahou Ba being revealed accidentally.
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Hanzo Hattori
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:42 am
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:39 am
If Pang De is not going to be in the game as a playable character then I do not want him in the game at all, not even as a generic.

This would just frustrate people.

It really would like be Koei saying "we haven't forgotten about him, but he's just not important enought to us to be a proper character anymore" - It would be a complete slap in the face to his fans.
meh... just give it a little time

I thought KOEI said that all cut characters were returning, right?

I am sure Pang De will be within the scans.

They never actually said that.

There was an interview at some point where I think the person being interviewed said that 'fan faves would return' or something along those lines.

From this people assumed that everyone will return, but we do not know this for certain.
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From this people assumed that everyone will return, but we do not know this for certain.

True. So since there is an uncertainty, perhaps we should be optimistic, regardless of any rumors we hear about, yes?

2ch is usually pretty accurate though... but if he is cut, perhaps DLC will bring him back. It would be a great incentive for KOEI to generate some extra cash too.

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From this people assumed that everyone will return, but we do not know this for certain.

True. So since there is an uncertainty, perhaps we should be optimistic, regardless of any rumors we hear about, yes?

2ch is usually pretty accurate though... but if he is cut, perhaps DLC will bring him back. It would be a great incentive for KOEI to generate some extra cash too.

I have said a few times before I don't think we've seen the last of Pang De.

I agree, if he is not included here then he most probably will be added as either DLC or in DW7:XL/Empires.

Like you say Koei need a way to sell those games and considering Pang De is quite a popular character (it seems so on this forum), this is basically a way of guaranteeing sales.
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Taking away something we've already had away only to sell it later, is a dirty tactic and it happens too too often.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:23 am
Taking away something we've already had away only to sell it later, is a dirty tactic and it happens too too often.
This exactly.

Ever since DLC hit the gaming scene, companies merely take content out of the main game and make you buy it over again.

Like how Marvel vs Capcom 3 announced DLC-only characters months before the game is released. Like... THAT'S NOT COOL.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:23 am
Taking away something we've already had away only to sell it later, is a dirty tactic and it happens too too often.
This exactly.

Ever since DLC hit the gaming scene, companies merely take content out of the main game and make you buy it over again.

Like how Marvel vs Capcom 3 announced DLC-only characters months before the game is released. Like... THAT'S NOT COOL.
I agree, it is terrible that the companies do it but from a business standpoint it is an extremely easy (and extremely successful) way of making money.

They know that fans will want the 'full' package so they will do things like this.

But in my opinion there are definately two ways in which DLC can be done, one is good, one is bad.

Good:
Rockstar games always have brilliant DLC (Read Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare, GTA4: Ballad of Gay Tony & The Lost and Damned). These were brilliant!!
They are DLC that added brand new dimensions to the games and I didn't feel like I was getting robbed of my money.

Bad:
This is stuff like MvC3 (like Tessen said), where they add DLC characters which could have been easily implemented into the main game. I don't see adding maps, costumes, weapons etc as proper DLC. I see it as lazy on behalf of the game companies and a blatant money-grabbing attempt.

DLC should always bring something new and interesting to a game.

The bad thing is the majority of games out there use DLC the 'bad' way...and even worse then that...We buy it!
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:47 am
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:35 am
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:23 am
Taking away something we've already had away only to sell it later, is a dirty tactic and it happens too too often.
This exactly.

Ever since DLC hit the gaming scene, companies merely take content out of the main game and make you buy it over again.

Like how Marvel vs Capcom 3 announced DLC-only characters months before the game is released. Like... THAT'S NOT COOL.
I agree, it is terrible that the companies do it but from a business standpoint it is an extremely easy (and extremely successful) way of making money.

They know that fans will want the 'full' package so they will do things like this.

But in my opinion there are definately two ways in which DLC can be done, one is good, one is bad.

Good:
Rockstar games always have brilliant DLC (Read Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare, GTA4: Ballad of Gay Tony & The Lost and Damned). These were brilliant!!
They are DLC that added brand new dimensions to the games and I didn't feel like I was getting robbed of my money.

Bad:
This is stuff like MvC3 (like Tessen said), where they add DLC characters which could have been easily implemented into the main game. I don't see adding maps, costumes, weapons etc as proper DLC. I see it as lazy on behalf of the game companies and a blatant money-grabbing attempt.

DLC should always bring something new and interesting to a game.

The bad thing is the majority of games out there use DLC the 'bad' way...and even worse then that...We buy it!
Same thing with the new Mortal Kombat game. They are going to make a lot of characters that don't make it into the game DLC (but it's a good move for them, since I bet many people will buy the characters, you know?)
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:06 am
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:47 am
Tessen
Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:35 am
WhiteHorseRide
Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:23 am
Taking away something we've already had away only to sell it later, is a dirty tactic and it happens too too often.
This exactly.

Ever since DLC hit the gaming scene, companies merely take content out of the main game and make you buy it over again.

Like how Marvel vs Capcom 3 announced DLC-only characters months before the game is released. Like... THAT'S NOT COOL.
I agree, it is terrible that the companies do it but from a business standpoint it is an extremely easy (and extremely successful) way of making money.

They know that fans will want the 'full' package so they will do things like this.

But in my opinion there are definately two ways in which DLC can be done, one is good, one is bad.

Good:
Rockstar games always have brilliant DLC (Read Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare, GTA4: Ballad of Gay Tony & The Lost and Damned). These were brilliant!!
They are DLC that added brand new dimensions to the games and I didn't feel like I was getting robbed of my money.

Bad:
This is stuff like MvC3 (like Tessen said), where they add DLC characters which could have been easily implemented into the main game. I don't see adding maps, costumes, weapons etc as proper DLC. I see it as lazy on behalf of the game companies and a blatant money-grabbing attempt.

DLC should always bring something new and interesting to a game.

The bad thing is the majority of games out there use DLC the 'bad' way...and even worse then that...We buy it!
Same thing with the new Mortal Kombat game. They are going to make a lot of characters that don't make it into the game DLC (but it's a good move for them, since I bet many people will buy the characters, you know?)
Yeah exactly, most of the times companies think of it from a money point of view rather than thinking what the player will actually get from it.

With DW7 I can just imagine Koei releasing DLC that does consist of maps, costumes and weapons which is a massive shame, especially considering how much they will charge aswell.

To be honest I would love Koei to release an 18+ DLC with lots and lots and lots of blood and gore!! They never would but the fact that I could literally make Bao Sanniang bleed would make my life :XD
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:18 am
To be honest I would love Koei to release an 18+ DLC with lots and lots and lots of blood and gore!! They never would but the fact that I could literally make Bao Sanniang bleed would make my life :XD
Sadism much? :rolleyes: :P
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:43 am
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:41 am
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:30 am
Bao loves Ping, Ping loves Cai, Cai care about Chan and maybe love him, Chan don`t care about all of them. Oh there is Suo, WTF you`re doing here >_< it kinda piss me off...
When did they say Bao would love Ping or is that just what your hoping for? :whistle:
Love relationship: Xing Cai <-> Liu Shan.
Love relationship˛: Bao Sanniang <-> Guan Suo.
Friends relationship: Bao Sanniang <-> Guan Ping <-> Xing Cai.

I think it would be better.
love relationship3: bao sanniang <-> xing cai

i heard koei is going to go into graphic detail about it
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:42 am
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To be honest I would love Koei to release an 18+ DLC with lots and lots and lots of blood and gore!! They never would but the fact that I could literally make Bao Sanniang bleed would make my life :XD
Sadism much? :rolleyes: :P
Hatred! :sly:
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melange
Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:42 am
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:18 am
To be honest I would love Koei to release an 18+ DLC with lots and lots and lots of blood and gore!! They never would but the fact that I could literally make Bao Sanniang bleed would make my life :XD
Sadism much? :rolleyes: :P
it would be great, like fist of the northern star some finishing moves and so on :D

and i think the DLC will make us broke -.- , like in fist of the northern star, all dlc cost at least 480 xbox gamepoints and it contains only a new costume or 1-2 new missions thats really bad and expensive
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After a trip to California, getting interogated twice for forgeting my id, after a trip to Sea World and Disneyland, I can finally say this.

The PV was awesome. Showing the seamless transition from cinematic to gameplay. Zhao and Feng showing their badass moves and all that other stuff. Was glad I didn't get caught up in the drama that was the rumoured list. Really don't care about the adds. Its Koei and will probably be someone random like these characters. Can't wait for the scans even though there probably won't be any info on dw7.
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Uhhh... may I see this rumor list? I seem to have passed it up by accident....

Edit:Durrrrr, top of page hurrr durr
I'm stupid.
Edited by Mary Sue, Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:25 am.
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I think pang de will be in dw7 mainly cause koei stated that every cut character will return and this I believe then some rumor but.. If hes not on this roster then im pretty sure they might save him for dw7 xl or empires... Lets not get too carried away with this uncomfirmed info..
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:42 am
mrnoonoo
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:39 am
If Pang De is not going to be in the game as a playable character then I do not want him in the game at all, not even as a generic.

This would just frustrate people.

It really would like be Koei saying "we haven't forgotten about him, but he's just not important enought to us to be a proper character anymore" - It would be a complete slap in the face to his fans.
meh... just give it a little time

I thought KOEI said that all cut characters were returning, right?

I am sure Pang De will be within the scans.

They never actually said that.

There was an interview at some point where I think the person being interviewed said that 'fan faves would return' or something along those lines.

From this people assumed that everyone will return, but we do not know this for certain.
@FierceWarrior29 - Koei never actually said that, have a quick look at what i've quoted.
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Unconfirmed but worth mentioning because this is how we learned about Xiahou Ba ahead of time too. So take it with a grain of salt but worth considering I think.
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It would be nice to see Lady Bu revealed with Sun Quan in the next showcase ^_^ Perhaps Guan Suo as well xD. I think we should see it as true until otherwise it is proven wrong. Remember, just because WE think someone's a better add, doesn't mean Koei should add them suitable to our liking. This always tend to happen with games being based off of well- developed history/books and people are expecting the best of the best to come in one big package; that only bring games like that closer to a closure seeing that all the good characters are in one game.
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mrnoonoo
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:39 am
If Pang De is not going to be in the game as a playable character then I do not want him in the game at all, not even as a generic.

This would just frustrate people.

It really would like be Koei saying "we haven't forgotten about him, but he's just not important enought to us to be a proper character anymore" - It would be a complete slap in the face to his fans.
meh... just give it a little time

I thought KOEI said that all cut characters were returning, right?

I am sure Pang De will be within the scans.

They never actually said that.

There was an interview at some point where I think the person being interviewed said that 'fan faves would return' or something along those lines.

From this people assumed that everyone will return, but we do not know this for certain.
@FierceWarrior29 - Koei never actually said that, have a quick look at what i've quoted.
So why is it that ppl keep saying everyone for dw5 will return( if zuo ci doesnt I understand) thats it im just gonna wait for something straight from koei..
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:42 am
mrnoonoo
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:39 am
If Pang De is not going to be in the game as a playable character then I do not want him in the game at all, not even as a generic.

This would just frustrate people.

It really would like be Koei saying "we haven't forgotten about him, but he's just not important enought to us to be a proper character anymore" - It would be a complete slap in the face to his fans.
meh... just give it a little time

I thought KOEI said that all cut characters were returning, right?

I am sure Pang De will be within the scans.

They never actually said that.

There was an interview at some point where I think the person being interviewed said that 'fan faves would return' or something along those lines.

From this people assumed that everyone will return, but we do not know this for certain.
@FierceWarrior29 - Koei never actually said that, have a quick look at what i've quoted.
So why is it that ppl keep saying everyone for dw5 will return( if zuo ci doesnt I understand) thats it im just gonna wait for something straight from koei..
Because people have misunderstood what Koei said.

The person who was being interviewed said something like 'cut fan favourites would return'.

People on this forum then took this and thought 'everyone from DW5 is returning!' - People then read that, more people think it etc etc

You never know, Koei may add everyone that was cut but we do not know for certain yet.
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They never actually said that.

There was an interview at some point where I think the person being interviewed said that 'fan faves would return' or something along those lines.

From this people assumed that everyone will return, but we do not know this for certain.
@FierceWarrior29 - Koei never actually said that, have a quick look at what i've quoted.
So why is it that ppl keep saying everyone for dw5 will return( if zuo ci doesnt I understand) thats it im just gonna wait for something straight from koei..
Because people have misunderstood what Koei said.

The person who was being interviewed said something like 'cut fan favourites would return'.

People on this forum then took this and thought 'everyone from DW5 is returning!' - People then read that, more people think it etc etc

You never know, Koei may add everyone that was cut but we do not know for certain yet.
Thanks for the heads up... Just hope it aint what it is...
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Well I'm still gonna hope for the inclusion of every character from dw5 into dw7 :)

Btw if Pang De does make a return wouldn't it be nice if he had a little bit of A MAJOR OVERHAUL in the personality department??? Seriously, even Huang Gai has better appeal than him in terms of personality.

And with that rumour list? I hope to God that most of those inclusions are not true (as was stated in some previous posts of mine hehe). Liu Chan would be an ok add, but adding that "whoever her name was" into the cast??? Wtf koei!!!! There are at least 2 better female adds (with them of course being Wu Guotai and Zhang Chunhua :P ).

And don't get me started again on Guan Suo!!!!!!!!! Adding 4 characters to one kingdom while adding only 1 or 2 to the rest of the kingdoms (excluding Jin) is so incredibly biased and... well it pisses me off to know that one thing is more important in someone's eyes than another (sorry personal issues... hehe :) ).

Oh and before I forget whoever mentioned having Bao Sanniang's Kessen 2 costume as an alternate for her, I support this ENTIRELY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well this list is right until proves wrong, I do doubt it though as they normally show the best last and according to this list that doesn't seem to be the case...
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Wow a lot of tension broke out last night here :mellow: but something nice came out in between Looks like characters are being revealed with their signature weapons now.

I'm wonderiing since those new weapon holding character images are being rendered will the other ones of them without weapons be rendered too?
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