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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,040,046 Views)
ThreeKingdomsWarrior
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Fantaji
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:43 am
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Hmmm, there's a recurring rumor on 2ch regarding characters that just popped up again in their DW7 thread.

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694 名無し曰く、[sage] 2010/12/16(木) 00:30:09 ID:me/KXI5T

そろそろリークしていいか?
残りの新キャラ
賈ク・夏侯覇・劉禅・関索・歩夫人
ちなみにホウ徳・左慈はリストラ


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Mind if I leak now?
Remaining new characters
Jia Xu/Xiahou Ba/Liu Chan/Guan Suo/Hofujin
Also Pang De and Zuo Ci are still cut


Seems this leak has been posted more often lately due to the character reveals matching up, especially with Xiahou Ba being revealed accidentally.
I personally don't believe that rumor-list. Do we know, in which timeframe that list showed up?
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SJFaith
Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:27 am
Wow a lot of tension broke out last night here :mellow: but something nice came out in between Looks like characters are being revealed with their signature weapons now.

I'm wonderiing since those new weapon holding character images are being rendered will the other ones of them without weapons be rendered too?
yeah, people need to remember, this is just a game.
Seriously, nobody will die.. cool it xD

But yeah, I saw this coming, most of the CG's so far had their hands open, as if they were meant to be holding a weapon.. :')
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:30 am
Well I'm still gonna hope for the inclusion of every character from dw5 into dw7 :)

Btw if Pang De does make a return wouldn't it be nice if he had a little bit of A MAJOR OVERHAUL in the personality department??? Seriously, even Huang Gai has better appeal than him in terms of personality.

And with that rumour list? I hope to God that most of those inclusions are not true (as was stated in some previous posts of mine hehe). Liu Chan would be an ok add, but adding that "whoever her name was" into the cast??? Wtf koei!!!! There are at least 2 better female adds (with them of course being Wu Guotai and Zhang Chunhua :P ).

And don't get me started again on Guan Suo!!!!!!!!! Adding 4 characters to one kingdom while adding only 1 or 2 to the rest of the kingdoms (excluding Jin) is so incredibly biased and... well it pisses me off to know that one thing is more important in someone's eyes than another (sorry personal issues... hehe :) ).

Oh and before I forget whoever mentioned having Bao Sanniang's Kessen 2 costume as an alternate for her, I support this ENTIRELY!!!!!!!!!!!
One woman is enough. Five new (Cai Wen Ji is new for some), it would be too much for one opus. That said, it already although it remains still to be revealed.

We can hope (I see you, Dong Bai) in DLC later.
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ThreeKingdomsWarrior
Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:38 am
Fantaji
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:43 am
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Hmmm, there's a recurring rumor on 2ch regarding characters that just popped up again in their DW7 thread.

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694 名無し曰く、[sage] 2010/12/16(木) 00:30:09 ID:me/KXI5T

そろそろリークしていいか?
残りの新キャラ
賈ク・夏侯覇・劉禅・関索・歩夫人
ちなみにホウ徳・左慈はリストラ


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Mind if I leak now?
Remaining new characters
Jia Xu/Xiahou Ba/Liu Chan/Guan Suo/Hofujin
Also Pang De and Zuo Ci are still cut


Seems this leak has been posted more often lately due to the character reveals matching up, especially with Xiahou Ba being revealed accidentally.
I personally don't believe that rumor-list. Do we know, in which timeframe that list showed up?
you can see the date, December 16th 2010, so that's 4 day after the announcement of DW 7 US release date, 9 day before DW 7 EU Site being published and 2 weeks before Xiahou Ba's being leaked, 3 weeks before Jia Xu being revealed :)

edit: although so far the list seems right and true, i hope it's wrong about Pang De still removed..
Edited by Daikyō, Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:54 am.
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Nashyy
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dude if thats right about it being DEC 16 then oh man I do think this list is right hopefully we will get something this week to clarify if this list is true or false

oh pang de please be in the next scan!
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Liu Shay
Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:52 am
dude if thats right about it being DEC 16 then oh man I do think this list is right hopefully we will get something this week to clarify if this list is true or false

oh pang de please be in the next scan!
yes i hope Pang De will be revealed in the next scans to prove if the list were not completely right..
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This would be zero to remove Pang De. Wei is the one who has the fewest playable characters. If one removes Pang De, it will only 13 characters and I have a feeling of emptiness. To me, he missed a character that Wei is complete.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:00 pm
This would be zero to remove Pang De. Wei is the one who has the fewest playable characters. If one removes Pang De, it will only 13 characters and I have a feeling of emptiness. To me, he missed a character that Wei is complete.
Wei may have the smallest roster (A bit ironic since Wei, out of the 3, is the largest in terms of territory), but from another certain point of view, the inclusion of Jin also complements Wei. It has been established that this Jin may be the representation of "Late Wei" rather then full on usurpers.

As for that rumor date, it was December 16. Roughly a month later, Xiahou Ba is leaked and Jia Xu is revealed.

I think it may be the real deal. While I admit I'm a bit sad that Pang De might be gone, the plethora of new characters is so huge I can live with it.

Couldn't say the same for DW6.
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Fantaji
Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:00 pm
This would be zero to remove Pang De. Wei is the one who has the fewest playable characters. If one removes Pang De, it will only 13 characters and I have a feeling of emptiness. To me, he missed a character that Wei is complete.
But most of the Jin characters will li8kely be under Wei for Kingdom Mode..
Deng Ai, Xiahou ba, Sima Yi, Sima Shi, Sima Zhao, Zhuge Dan, Zhong Hui and Guo Hai were all in wei, they could even add Yuanji if they wished too, that'd be all of Jin, so yano x3

I'd rather they just gave the Wei officers more depth, most of Wei are indentical personality-wise
Xu Zhu and Zhang He always get bad reception but really they're the most unique of Wei xD
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Xalfrea
Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:12 pm
Fantaji
Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:00 pm
This would be zero to remove Pang De. Wei is the one who has the fewest playable characters. If one removes Pang De, it will only 13 characters and I have a feeling of emptiness. To me, he missed a character that Wei is complete.
Wei may have the smallest roster (A bit ironic since Wei, out of the 3, is the largest in terms of territory), but from another certain point of view, the inclusion of Jin also complements Wei. It has been established that this Jin may be the representation of "Late Wei" rather then full on usurpers.
Yeah, if we take into account Jin, Wei theoretically more characters.

If this new opus does not exceed Wu Zhang (like previous games), I think we would have 16 characters to Wei. All old (including Sima Yi) + Cai Wen Ji, Jia Xu and Deng Ai (which I think were the best additions).
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I thought I saw somewhere that Jin was going to fight all the kingdoms lol so wouldn't that mean they will fight Wei also
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:18 pm
I thought I saw somewhere that Jin was going to fight all the kingdoms lol so wouldn't that mean they will fight Wei also
IF they plan to do the historical route, I forsee it something like this:

1. Wu Zhang Plains
2. Battles in-between against Shu and Wu
3. Battle of Cheng Du-Shu Falls
4. Usurp of Wei (will be made into a full on battle)-Wei Falls
5. Battle of Jian Ye-Wu falls

The End.

Also would be nice if they involve something similar to DW4XL and 5XL where Jin goes to route the Nanman. IIRC, it is DW5XL where Jin is first mentioned.
Edited by Xalfrea, Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:25 pm.
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who is lu bu in dynasty warriors 7 please answer me
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MaedaKeiji
Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:28 pm
who is lu bu in dynasty warriors 7 please answer me
He is not yet revealed, simply. Do not worry, Lu Bu will be in the game.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:24 pm
Liu Shay
Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:18 pm
I thought I saw somewhere that Jin was going to fight all the kingdoms lol so wouldn't that mean they will fight Wei also
IF they plan to do the historical route, I forsee it something like this:

1. Wu Zhang Plains
2. Battles in-between against Shu and Wu
3. Battle of Cheng Du-Shu Falls
4. Usurp of Wei (will be made into a full on battle)-Wei Falls
5. Battle of Jian Ye-Wu falls

The End.

Also would be nice if they involve something similar to DW4XL and 5XL where Jin goes to route the Nanman. IIRC, it is DW5XL where Jin is first mentioned.
http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/single/?p=8781228&t=6741707

This guy made a decent speculation list of Jin battles.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:50 am
ThreeKingdomsWarrior
Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:38 am
Fantaji
Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:43 am
Quote:
 
Hmmm, there's a recurring rumor on 2ch regarding characters that just popped up again in their DW7 thread.

Quote:
 
694 名無し曰く、[sage] 2010/12/16(木) 00:30:09 ID:me/KXI5T

そろそろリークしていいか?
残りの新キャラ
賈ク・夏侯覇・劉禅・関索・歩夫人
ちなみにホウ徳・左慈はリストラ


Translation:
Quote:
 
Mind if I leak now?
Remaining new characters
Jia Xu/Xiahou Ba/Liu Chan/Guan Suo/Hofujin
Also Pang De and Zuo Ci are still cut


Seems this leak has been posted more often lately due to the character reveals matching up, especially with Xiahou Ba being revealed accidentally.
I personally don't believe that rumor-list. Do we know, in which timeframe that list showed up?
you can see the date, December 16th 2010, so that's 4 day after the announcement of DW 7 US release date, 9 day before DW 7 EU Site being published and 2 weeks before Xiahou Ba's being leaked, 3 weeks before Jia Xu being revealed :)

edit: although so far the list seems right and true, i hope it's wrong about Pang De still removed..
And not only that. Jia Xu was not revealed then too. Hmmmmm :hmmm: , so EITHER that person had really believable insider-infos, OR, and that is what i think, he did very very very lucky guessed.

Because, we already knew by then, that "a new Xiahou (Ba)" and a "replacing new strategist for Wei (Jia Xu)" will come, since Sima Yi left them. At that time Liu Shan and Guan Suo were also expected because of the character-bios.

On 15. December we've gotten the scans of Meng Huo and Zhu Rong (cutted characters, at least ZR). One day before that rumor-list. And then, that person made this list by saying: "You know what, i think this will be the characters, which will be revealed. All kingdoms have gotten 1 new female. Why not 1 for Wu too. I want this woman, because every later ruler has his wife, except Sun Quan. Besides, all cutted characters returned except Pang De and Zuo Ci. I hope they stay cutted. I hated them."

Till then, we've gotten every famitsu-scan at least 1 cutted/returning character. We expected Pang De in the next scan that should be revealed on 05. January. But no Pang De in that scan. Admitted, that was strange.

Anyway, i will wait for the next scans.
IF they reveal Pang De in that, then it's clear, failed-list.
EVEN if they reveal Liu Shan or Guan Suo or both, still not convinced with the list.
BUT, if they reveal that Lady Bu (Hofujin), then i have to believe it.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:43 pm
Xalfrea
Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:24 pm
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:18 pm
I thought I saw somewhere that Jin was going to fight all the kingdoms lol so wouldn't that mean they will fight Wei also
IF they plan to do the historical route, I forsee it something like this:

1. Wu Zhang Plains
2. Battles in-between against Shu and Wu
3. Battle of Cheng Du-Shu Falls
4. Usurp of Wei (will be made into a full on battle)-Wei Falls
5. Battle of Jian Ye-Wu falls

The End.

Also would be nice if they involve something similar to DW4XL and 5XL where Jin goes to route the Nanman. IIRC, it is DW5XL where Jin is first mentioned.
http://s13.zetaboards.com/koeiwarriors/single/?p=8781228&t=6741707

This guy made a decent speculation list of Jin battles.
In his list, he will find or put Xiahou Ba. And knowing that Wen Yang will not be included, we must find another character (already present) to replace him.
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just wondering, did Nanman survive longer than Wu?
or were they just defeated alongside Shu?
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@Fantaji.

Xiahou Ba's kinda hard since he joins Shu shortly after Incident of Gaoping Tomb. So probably Liaodong if that's added.

And if Wen Yang's not added, put either Sima Zhao or Wang Yuan Ji on Conquest of Wu.

Though Sima Zhao isn't alive at Conquest of Wu....
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:50 pm
Though Sima Zhao isn't alive at Conquest of Wu....
Maybe he will survive a little longer than expected, and die after the Conquest of Wu.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:48 pm
just wondering, did Nanman survive longer than Wu?
or were they just defeated alongside Shu?
That is probably lost to history, as the Nanman are never significant again after Zhuge Liang is done with them. Heck, they're never mentioned again in ROTK after their chapters either.

In DW, it is made mention in 4 & 5XL that the Nanman outlive Shu, and in both battles, they fight in the name if Zhuge Liang's legacy. This is evident in 5XL when they use the Shu Juggernauts at one point.
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Is there actually any conformation if Wen Yang has been added or not.

I know supposedly Xiahou Ba is the last Jin Character, but has anything been said further about that

I mean Wen Yang seems a logical choice for Jin, and 9 Jin characters seems a bit........uncomplete. I would've thought they'd at least make it 10
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I don't think there's been any confirmation about Wen Yang yet, he's no mentioned under the Jin character list on Wikipedia or anywhere else I can find.
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Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:47 pm
I mean Wen Yang seems a logical choice for Jin, and 9 Jin characters seems a bit........uncomplete. I would've thought they'd at least make it 10
Again, KOEI shows that ignores the number. Why there should be approximately 10 characters? 9 characters for their first appearance, I find it really well. There will be more in Dynasty Warriors 8.

Seriously, do not trust the numbers, it does mean nothing.
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Fantaji
Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:27 pm
MysteriousStranger08
Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:47 pm
I mean Wen Yang seems a logical choice for Jin, and 9 Jin characters seems a bit........uncomplete. I would've thought they'd at least make it 10
Again, KOEI shows that ignores the number. Why there should be approximately 10 characters? 9 characters for their first appearance, I find it really well. There will be more in Dynasty Warriors 8.

Seriously, do not trust the numbers, it does mean nothing.
Jin have already done quite well really, considering they're all new apart from Sima Yi, that's quite a lot, especially since it's their first game and they don't last as long as the other 3 Kingdoms..
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