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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,634 Views)
Joetri10
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Fan Castle would be

Wei - Cao Ren
Shu - Guan Yu
Wu - Lu Meng

(my own opinion, most likely wrong)
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Joetri10
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:45 pm
Fan Castle would be

Wei - Cao Ren
Shu - Guan Yu
Wu - Lu Meng

(my own opinion, most likely wrong)
thats probably how it will be or they'll just split it up to get Xu Huang in it
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:47 pm
Joetri10
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:45 pm
Fan Castle would be

Wei - Cao Ren
Shu - Guan Yu
Wu - Lu Meng

(my own opinion, most likely wrong)
thats probably how it will be or they'll just split it up to get Xu Huang in it
Wei - Cao Ren/Xu Huang?
Wu - Lu Meng/Lu Xun?
Shu - Guan Yu/Guan Ping?

^ Just guessing if Fan Castle was cut into two parts for every force. :kurokan:
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melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:14 pm
http://yuzuru.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamehis/1297488017/
261 :名無し曰く、:2011/02/12(土) 17:49:17 ID:lXm2wfOX
今回から味方にもダメージは入らないけど乱舞があたるみたい
元姫の乱舞に昭が巻き込まれて宙を舞ってて笑えた
爆発させれる回数増えそうだ
It seems this time ur musou attack can 'hit' allies but won't cause damage to them.
I laughed when Yuan Ji's musou attack affected Sima Zhao and threw him up into the air
It appears they'll be so many more opportunities for explosively funny events.
It'd certainly offer a good laugh, and makes logical sense to me.

Gan Ning: Hey, old man, move your butt!
Lu Meng: Old man? *performs musou and knocks Gan Ning into a group of enemies, Motonari style* Call me that one more time and it's straight to the moon!

As for Fan castle, it'd seem off to waste that level on Guan Yu, when he could have his 7 gates march or escapades at Guan Du to do. Guan Ping, on the other hand, I can see doing Fan Castle. Why put a character in a level where they are destined to get double-teamed and defeated, especially for a character with a good reputation as Guan Yu's?

Thus far, I like everything I see. Even Xu Chu. He looks... less stupid in the face than before.
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Reverie
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ChibiGingi
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:09 pm
melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:14 pm
http://yuzuru.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamehis/1297488017/
261 :名無し曰く、:2011/02/12(土) 17:49:17 ID:lXm2wfOX
今回から味方にもダメージは入らないけど乱舞があたるみたい
元姫の乱舞に昭が巻き込まれて宙を舞ってて笑えた
爆発させれる回数増えそうだ
It seems this time ur musou attack can 'hit' allies but won't cause damage to them.
I laughed when Yuan Ji's musou attack affected Sima Zhao and threw him up into the air
It appears they'll be so many more opportunities for explosively funny events.
It'd certainly offer a good laugh, and makes logical sense to me.

Gan Ning: Hey, old man, move your butt!
Lu Meng: Old man? *performs musou and knocks Gan Ning into a group of enemies, Motonari style* Call me that one more time and it's straight to the moon!

As for Fan castle, it'd seem off to waste that level on Guan Yu, when he could have his 7 gates march or escapades at Guan Du to do. Guan Ping, on the other hand, I can see doing Fan Castle. Why put a character in a level where they are destined to get double-teamed and defeated, especially for a character with a good reputation as Guan Yu's?

Thus far, I like everything I see. Even Xu Chu. He looks... less stupid in the face than before.
Lol why can't Gun Yu have all three? I mean we all know we're going to use some characters more than once.
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D.Key
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:12 pm
Wooow so many "screenshots" there,,

Posted Image

Sun Ce really profficient with "wheels" & throwing dagger, there are an "ex" word in both of the weapon icon.. :D
no if you look closely the second weapon are the tonfas, and has ne number 1 on it, the wheels have number 2.. the same can you see an other new pictures ;)
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:11 pm
ChibiGingi
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:09 pm
melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:14 pm
http://yuzuru.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamehis/1297488017/
261 :名無し曰く、:2011/02/12(土) 17:49:17 ID:lXm2wfOX
今回から味方にもダメージは入らないけど乱舞があたるみたい
元姫の乱舞に昭が巻き込まれて宙を舞ってて笑えた
爆発させれる回数増えそうだ
It seems this time ur musou attack can 'hit' allies but won't cause damage to them.
I laughed when Yuan Ji's musou attack affected Sima Zhao and threw him up into the air
It appears they'll be so many more opportunities for explosively funny events.
It'd certainly offer a good laugh, and makes logical sense to me.

Gan Ning: Hey, old man, move your butt!
Lu Meng: Old man? *performs musou and knocks Gan Ning into a group of enemies, Motonari style* Call me that one more time and it's straight to the moon!

As for Fan castle, it'd seem off to waste that level on Guan Yu, when he could have his 7 gates march or escapades at Guan Du to do. Guan Ping, on the other hand, I can see doing Fan Castle. Why put a character in a level where they are destined to get double-teamed and defeated, especially for a character with a good reputation as Guan Yu's?

Thus far, I like everything I see. Even Xu Chu. He looks... less stupid in the face than before.
Lol why can't Gun Yu have all three? I mean we all know we're going to use some characters more than once.
I would prefer Guan Yu to have
Fan Castle&Escape from Cao Cao.

Those are like musts for me. :kurokan:
He might YTR or Hu Lao Gate, which I just don't want.
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ChibiGingi
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Reverie
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:11 pm
ChibiGingi
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:09 pm
melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:14 pm
http://yuzuru.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamehis/1297488017/
261 :名無し曰く、:2011/02/12(土) 17:49:17 ID:lXm2wfOX
今回から味方にもダメージは入らないけど乱舞があたるみたい
元姫の乱舞に昭が巻き込まれて宙を舞ってて笑えた
爆発させれる回数増えそうだ
It seems this time ur musou attack can 'hit' allies but won't cause damage to them.
I laughed when Yuan Ji's musou attack affected Sima Zhao and threw him up into the air
It appears they'll be so many more opportunities for explosively funny events.
It'd certainly offer a good laugh, and makes logical sense to me.

Gan Ning: Hey, old man, move your butt!
Lu Meng: Old man? *performs musou and knocks Gan Ning into a group of enemies, Motonari style* Call me that one more time and it's straight to the moon!

As for Fan castle, it'd seem off to waste that level on Guan Yu, when he could have his 7 gates march or escapades at Guan Du to do. Guan Ping, on the other hand, I can see doing Fan Castle. Why put a character in a level where they are destined to get double-teamed and defeated, especially for a character with a good reputation as Guan Yu's?

Thus far, I like everything I see. Even Xu Chu. He looks... less stupid in the face than before.
Lol why can't Gun Yu have all three? I mean we all know we're going to use some characters more than once.
Nah, I'd rather them not be COMPLETELY biased here. This game is trying to give the illusion that the story mode will allow ALL characters to shine at some point, so I'd rather every character get one level to play as. Even the mighty Guan Yu.

I know it's impossible for them not to show bias (which they've already had), but at least pretend they're trying to treat everyone equally.

Even if Guan Yu got more than one stage, I still wouldn't give him Fan Castle, because then that'd mean he'd win. And like hell I'm going to make Cao Ren's, Xu Huang's, Lu Meng's and Lu Xun's effort go to waste on that overrated pompous ass. [/opinion]
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Sum Gai
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You know, even though it's not his ex weapon I'm still changing Dian Wei's axe with Zhang Liao's polearms just so we can finally have Dian Wei in action with his infamous twin halberds.
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melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:48 pm
Liang province 涼州 for Sun Ce? That's kinda odd, since Liang is in the northwest where Ma Teng, Ma Chao hail from.. Unless its a battle with Sun Jian/Sun Ce pursuing Dong Zhuo after he withdraws from Luoyang...
Long battle description up ahead; definitely well worth a read though.
It took me a long time to construct this battle from the histories so someone better read it!

In 185, one year after the Yellow Turban Rebellion Sun Jian participated in a battle between Han Imperial forces and a mixture of non Chinese tribes, Qiang, and rebelling Han forces from Liang province and the surrounding area, including Chang An. The main combatants were Huangfu Song, Zhang Wen, with Yuan Pang as his sub-officer, Sun Jian, Dong Zhuo, Zhou Shen, and Bao Hong for the Han forces; and Beigong Boyu, Bian Zhang, and Han Sui as the rebel forces (not sure who the Qiang leader was). Ma Teng and his cronies could probably be put in there as well to add a couple of playables to that side.

- It starts with Huangfu Song fighting Beigong Boyu in and around Chang An, but Song is recalled because of the naughty Eunuchs.
- All the other Han forces sort of come as reinforcements, Zhang Wen taking Huangfu Song's position as 'commander' (General of Chariots and Cavalry in reality). Huangfu Song can disappear now I suppose.
- Zhang Wen then leads a large force (100,000) to a place called Meiyang; Bian Zhang and Han Sui bring up there forces in opposition and a state of effective stalemate emerges.
- Dong Zhuo combines forces with Bao Hong and force Bian Zhang and Han Sui to retreat to (let's say a castle to keep it simple).
- Zhang Wen then sends Zhou Shen in pursuit, Sun Jian requests to go and cut off their supply line but is rejected by Zhou Shen who takes his whole unit to besiege the castle, and ironically gets his own supply line cut off by Bian Zhang and Han Sui's forces, causing him to retreat.
- Zhang Wen sends Dong Zhuo to attack the Qiang tribes, but he is surrounded and his supply lines are cut off and running short. He brilliantly builds a dam on a nearby river, and quickly and quitely moves his unit round to the other side of the river; and when the tribes eventually arrive the river is so deep that they can't cross it, allowing Dong Zhuo to escape.
Zhang Wen calls Dong Zhuo back to his position (main camp), but Dong drags his feet. Zhang Wen reprimands him and Dong answers back, Sun Jian then tried to persuade Zhang Wen to execute Dong but he is again ignored.

And the records of the battle sort of end there. A couple of years later Han Sui killed all of his allies (obviously not Ma Teng) and assumed control of their entire forces. This could be included; with Sun Jian and the others just surrounding the lonesome Han Sui and winning the battle.
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Reverie
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ChibiGingi
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:16 pm
Reverie
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:11 pm
ChibiGingi
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:09 pm
melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:14 pm
http://yuzuru.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/gamehis/1297488017/
261 :名無し曰く、:2011/02/12(土) 17:49:17 ID:lXm2wfOX
今回から味方にもダメージは入らないけど乱舞があたるみたい
元姫の乱舞に昭が巻き込まれて宙を舞ってて笑えた
爆発させれる回数増えそうだ
It seems this time ur musou attack can 'hit' allies but won't cause damage to them.
I laughed when Yuan Ji's musou attack affected Sima Zhao and threw him up into the air
It appears they'll be so many more opportunities for explosively funny events.
It'd certainly offer a good laugh, and makes logical sense to me.

Gan Ning: Hey, old man, move your butt!
Lu Meng: Old man? *performs musou and knocks Gan Ning into a group of enemies, Motonari style* Call me that one more time and it's straight to the moon!

As for Fan castle, it'd seem off to waste that level on Guan Yu, when he could have his 7 gates march or escapades at Guan Du to do. Guan Ping, on the other hand, I can see doing Fan Castle. Why put a character in a level where they are destined to get double-teamed and defeated, especially for a character with a good reputation as Guan Yu's?

Thus far, I like everything I see. Even Xu Chu. He looks... less stupid in the face than before.
Lol why can't Gun Yu have all three? I mean we all know we're going to use some characters more than once.
Nah, I'd rather them not be COMPLETELY biased here. This game is trying to give the illusion that the story mode will allow ALL characters to shine at some point, so I'd rather every character get one level to play as. Even the mighty Guan Yu.

I know it's impossible for them not to show bias (which they've already had), but at least pretend they're trying to treat everyone equally.

Even if Guan Yu got more than one stage, I still wouldn't give him Fan Castle, because then that'd mean he'd win. And like hell I'm going to make Cao Ren's, Xu Huang's, Lu Meng's and Lu Xun's effort go to waste on that overrated pompous ass. [/opinion]
I see your point, wait lol so who does SHU also that's why we have different parts of the stages, :blink: I mean won't hurt at all.
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i think Fan Castle will have Guan Ping and Guan Suo (his start stage maybe)
Xu huang and Cao Ren for wei
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:21 pm

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Thanks for that.
That will certainly be a very interesting level, especially with Dong Zhuo.
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NineSeven
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Hystzen
Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:23 pm
for people whining about clones..you make a game where you have 60+ characters and make a unique moveset for ALL of them.

Free mode meh not that bothered didnt use in it 6 apart from playing ma chao ,cao pi and zhang he.

zhao yun cover whoa was expected jin crowd image
warrior orochi 2 had 94 charackter and no clone movesets or more or less the same weapon style :D, but i never care about that if we have few moves which looks alike. but iam still hoping that we get older weapons in dlc ^^
Edited by NineSeven, Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:35 pm.
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Whoa!!!! Screenshots!!!! Of the demo!!!!! Awesome!

Xu Zhu looks fat again, sorry to all those who were hoping for a more "serious" looking Xu hahaha...

And Sun Jian looks cool.

Also, who's that in the blue? Looks like Cao Pi.
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Xiuzhao
Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:21 pm
melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:48 pm
Liang province 涼州 for Sun Ce? That's kinda odd, since Liang is in the northwest where Ma Teng, Ma Chao hail from.. Unless its a battle with Sun Jian/Sun Ce pursuing Dong Zhuo after he withdraws from Luoyang...
Long battle description up ahead; definitely well worth a read though.
It took me a long time to construct this battle from the histories so someone better read it!

In 185, one year after the Yellow Turban Rebellion Sun Jian participated in a battle between Han Imperial forces and a mixture of non Chinese tribes, Qiang, and rebelling Han forces from Liang province and the surrounding area, including Chang An. The main combatants were Huangfu Song, Zhang Wen, with Yuan Pang as his sub-officer, Sun Jian, Dong Zhuo, Zhou Shen, and Bao Hong for the Han forces; and Beigong Boyu, Bian Zhang, and Han Sui as the rebel forces (not sure who the Qiang leader was). Ma Teng and his cronies could probably be put in there as well to add a couple of playables to that side.

- It starts with Huangfu Song fighting Beigong Boyu in and around Chang An, but Song is recalled because of the naughty Eunuchs.
- All the other Han forces sort of come as reinforcements, Zhang Wen taking Huangfu Song's position as 'commander' (General of Chariots and Cavalry in reality). Huangfu Song can disappear now I suppose.
- Zhang Wen then leads a large force (100,000) to a place called Meiyang; Bian Zhang and Han Sui bring up there forces in opposition and a state of effective stalemate emerges.
- Dong Zhuo combines forces with Bao Hong and force Bian Zhang and Han Sui to retreat to (let's say a castle to keep it simple).
- Zhang Wen then sends Zhou Shen in pursuit, Sun Jian requests to go and cut off their supply line but is rejected by Zhou Shen who takes his whole unit to besiege the castle, and ironically gets his own supply line cut off by Bian Zhang and Han Sui's forces, causing him to retreat.
- Zhang Wen sends Dong Zhuo to attack the Qiang tribes, but he is surrounded and his supply lines are cut off and running short. He brilliantly builds a dam on a nearby river, and quickly and quitely moves his unit round to the other side of the river; and when the tribes eventually arrive the river is so deep that they can't cross it, allowing Dong Zhuo to escape.
Zhang Wen calls Dong Zhuo back to his position (main camp), but Dong drags his feet. Zhang Wen reprimands him and Dong answers back, Sun Jian then tried to persuade Zhang Wen to execute Dong but he is again ignored.

And the records of the battle sort of end there. A couple of years later Han Sui killed all of his allies (obviously not Ma Teng) and assumed control of their entire forces. This could be included; with Sun Jian and the others just surrounding the lonesome Han Sui and winning the battle.
Awesome! So the battle of Liang will be included?
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Joetri10
Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:35 pm

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what are the differences??? all looks the same to me
Well for one she doesn’t have a massive line going diagonal on her chest, and I’m pretty sure she has boobs aswell.. It just looks.... different..

It also looks like she’s wearing something.
It's from behind, you're just not used to that angle.
Ohhhh.. i seee :XD Thanks

-gives cookie-
i think this might be cao pi from behind with a long purple ponytail cause in the really blurry picture we have seen of what we think is cao pi that person also has purple looking hair and their is no blonde hair in this picture so i dont think its wang yuanji and i also watched the jin pv again to see what wang yuanji looks like from behind and it looks different to this picture so if anyone could watch the pv and compare them i would like to see what you think cause it is kinda hard to tell at the moment
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Joetri10
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:41 pm

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Well for one she doesn’t have a massive line going diagonal on her chest, and I’m pretty sure she has boobs aswell.. It just looks.... different..

It also looks like she’s wearing something.
It's from behind, you're just not used to that angle.
Ohhhh.. i seee :XD Thanks

-gives cookie-
i think this might be cao pi from behind with a long purple ponytail cause in the really blurry picture we have seen of what we think is cao pi that person also has purple looking hair and their is no blonde hair in this picture so i dont think its wang yuanji and i also watched the jin pv again to see what wang yuanji looks like from behind and it looks different to this picture so if anyone could watch the pv and compare them i would like to see what you think cause it is kinda hard to tell at the moment
You're silly. That is absolutely Wang Yuanji.

The sleeves do the gradient from that turquoise to white.
She's wearing her skirt.
The hair is most definitely blonde.
She's wearing her boots.
It just plain out is her.

There is also a screenshot of her in a wintery landscape. I think this may be from the same cutscene. :mellow:
Edited by dancingswan, Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:52 pm.
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Joetri10
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BloodXBlossom
Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:41 pm

Quoting limited to 5 levels deepPosted Image
Well for one she doesn’t have a massive line going diagonal on her chest, and I’m pretty sure she has boobs aswell.. It just looks.... different..

It also looks like she’s wearing something.
It's from behind, you're just not used to that angle.
Ohhhh.. i seee :XD Thanks

-gives cookie-
i think this might be cao pi from behind with a long purple ponytail cause in the really blurry picture we have seen of what we think is cao pi that person also has purple looking hair and their is no blonde hair in this picture so i dont think its wang yuanji and i also watched the jin pv again to see what wang yuanji looks like from behind and it looks different to this picture so if anyone could watch the pv and compare them i would like to see what you think cause it is kinda hard to tell at the moment
the fact the pose is holding his hips and obviously wearing a skirt im sure it aint Cao Pi...unless Koei are making him Zhang He s "friend" :hehe:
Edited by Hystzen, Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:50 pm.
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To add to the discussion about lack of musou modes in DW6, what was the problem really? At least you didn't have to play through same stages over and over again (for example Gan Ning was the only one who got Wu's He Fei or Guan Yu the only one who got Shu's Fan Castle).

Besides, the stories are generally better if there are less of them...
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melange
Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:48 pm
Liang province 涼州 for Sun Ce? That's kinda odd, since Liang is in the northwest where Ma Teng, Ma Chao hail from.. Unless its a battle with Sun Jian/Sun Ce pursuing Dong Zhuo after he withdraws from Luoyang...
Long battle description up ahead; definitely well worth a read though.
It took me a long time to construct this battle from the histories so someone better read it!

*Snip*
Awesome! So the battle of Liang will be included?
That's the battle I'm hoping for, yes. One of Sun Ce's battles in Kingdom Mode is apparently Liang province and Sun Jian was at the battle I described so it makes sense; even if Sun Ce was only 10 years old at the time.
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is this here the true cao pi oO can anyone translate something here?
http://wapuwapu.com/archives/52716491.html
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Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:02 pm
is this here the true cao pi oO can anyone translate something here?
http://wapuwapu.com/archives/52716491.html
That's just the DW6 Cao Pi. :kurokan:
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I hope someone messes up and show Gan Ning and Huang Gai lol, actually Guan Suo, Guan Ping, Gan Ning, and Huang Gai are the only ones that are seen any were including hints(They are going to be in the game don't think otherwise). Probably will be the most exciting to see no telling if they have over huals or not. Also I am betting on Gan Ning going pre DW 6. That very tiny view of Cao Pi he looks like he kept some DW 6 in his design which sucks if so but not the end of the world, I'm worried about his weapon, the only let down is if he ends up with a rapier which it still wouldn't ruin him for me. Xu Huang better not have the same weapon as Cao Ren "F" the opening show that doesn't mean anything at least to me.
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Personally, the lack of Free Mode & the addition of 'clones' isn't much of an issue to me. Atleast in 7 there will be some difference between characters, unlike most in 6.

I just can't wait to get my hands on a copy, the 25th seems so far away :(
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