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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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TrevorxTravesty
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Whoever thinks that Chronicle Mode will have no replay value is dead wrong.
I mean, 62 characters, and everyone has character specific stages and/or 'What if?' scenarios? Plus all the various other functions available in it?

And all free mode had was the ability to play the stages? Yeah, Chronicle Mode is by far the superior mode.

I swear, you people aren't satisfied with something that seems to be far better than its predecessor.
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Scourm
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How can people call them selves fans, if all they do is ***** about things. I mean conquest mode has all the components. The replay value for this game is extraordinary and yet there are people who curse this game.
Answer me this FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! What do you want on the game, what keeps you so dissatisfied?????? ANSWER ME! Pang De: if he is uttered out your mouths i want you to drop a toaster in a bathtub. Look at this game, just do me a favor and take a sec to look at it. Do you realize how far they have gone for us fans, Hell to me the combat looks similar to that of SB3. If you want evidence of this watch Zhong Hui's attacks, they are phenominal. As well as others. You all be choking down your "HaTE" once the game is released.
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TrevorxTravesty
Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:14 pm
Whoever thinks that Chronicle Mode will have no replay value is dead wrong.
I mean, 62 characters, and everyone has character specific stages and/or 'What if?' scenarios? Plus all the various other functions available in it?

And all free mode had was the ability to play the stages? Yeah, Chronicle Mode is by far the superior mode.

I swear, you people aren't satisfied with something that seems to be far better than its predecessor.
I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate.

I can see why people would want Free Mode, even with the inclusion of Conquest Mode.

Two main reason stick out to me:

1.) Lowbie leveling. Leveling a character in Free mode so that once you jump into Story Mode, you're already well groomed.
2.) The "Any Character, Any Time, Any Battle" argument that has been the basis for Free Mode.

While both can be done with Chronicle Mode, what can't be done are the battles themselves. For example:

In Free Mode, if you wanted to use Ding Feng in Chi Bi, that's fine. Sima Yi in Chang Ban on SHU side? No problem.

People want the freedom of choice that comes with Free Mode, simply put. With Conquest being an Empires/XL mixture, sure you can choose your character and choose which battle you participate in, but you won't be trying to stop an entire army by yourself on Chang Ban bridge using Xiao Qiao or setting fire to Wu Chao in Guan Du using Xu Zhu.

I think that's where some of the animosity for the lack of Free Mode comes from.
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TrevorxTravesty
Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:14 pm
Whoever thinks that Chronicle Mode will have no replay value is dead wrong.
I mean, 62 characters, and everyone has character specific stages and/or 'What if?' scenarios? Plus all the various other functions available in it?

And all free mode had was the ability to play the stages? Yeah, Chronicle Mode is by far the superior mode.

I swear, you people aren't satisfied with something that seems to be far better than its predecessor.
I'm not worried at gameplay value.

I'm still playing DW6 just because I want to. I've always thought DW games had great replay value. :mellow:
I don't know if that's me. :o
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scourm24
Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:21 pm
How can people call them selves fans, if all they do is ***** about things. I mean conquest mode has all the components. The replay value for this game is extraordinary and yet there are people who curse this game.
Answer me this FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! What do you want on the game, what keeps you so dissatisfied?????? ANSWER ME! Pang De: if he is uttered out your mouths i want you to drop a toaster in a bathtub. Look at this game, just do me a favor and take a sec to look at it. Do you realize how far they have gone for us fans, Hell to me the combat looks similar to that of SB3. If you want evidence of this watch Zhong Hui's attacks, they are phenominal. As well as others. You all be choking down your "HaTE" once the game is released.
Not the most pleasant way to state that, but I do agree with a few points.

Some people just post "I hate this game. I won't get it" without posting why. Now, I respect their opinions and everything but without stating why we don't really know what they hate about the game.

What I would like to say to those who are hating this game is to just look into it more. Go to the official website, read about the weapons, the characters, watch the PVs and the gameplay video, you might change your mind after that. And if you don't after that, then I won't bother. Suit yourself.
Edited by Snyf, Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:27 pm.
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Scourm
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aye well "assertiveness gives way to enlightenment"
Edited by Scourm, Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:29 pm.
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People complain about not having a free mode because they don’t understand fully what conquest mode is and never will with the amount of spam that comes on here, since i have been gone, 6 pages of nothing has happened... It’s not all their fault, even i don’t fully understand much about conquest mode but il wait and give it a go before i hack away at the game...

As for Pang De, surprising enough, people like him :O.. I don’t care much for the guy myself but its a shame that he has been thrown away like this when he looks to be pretty important... Sadly again, because of the amount of spam and wishy washyness of people, people don’t always realise that pang de is out and why we know that. I yelled at that one guy asking about Famitsu and i don’t deny that, however i wouldn’t have a go at the poor people who can’t come on here often and when they do, just see spam...

As for the people who do just spam and do one liners saying how much they hate the game, all we can say is..... Why the muffin are you here then!

Also, calling yourself a fan doesnt mean you suck up to a company and praise everything they do, sometimes you have to complain... just make sure it has a point (like with my UNPC suggestion)
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scourm24
Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:21 pm
How can people call them selves fans, if all they do is ***** about things. I mean conquest mode has all the components. The replay value for this game is extraordinary and yet there are people who curse this game.
Answer me this FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! What do you want on the game, what keeps you so dissatisfied?????? ANSWER ME! Pang De: if he is uttered out your mouths i want you to drop a toaster in a bathtub. Look at this game, just do me a favor and take a sec to look at it. Do you realize how far they have gone for us fans, Hell to me the combat looks similar to that of SB3. If you want evidence of this watch Zhong Hui's attacks, they are phenominal. As well as others. You all be choking down your "HaTE" once the game is released.
Agreed 100%!
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scourm24
Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:21 pm
How can people call them selves fans, if all they do is ***** about things. I mean conquest mode has all the components. The replay value for this game is extraordinary and yet there are people who curse this game.
Answer me this FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! What do you want on the game, what keeps you so dissatisfied?????? ANSWER ME! Pang De: if he is uttered out your mouths i want you to drop a toaster in a bathtub. Look at this game, just do me a favor and take a sec to look at it. Do you realize how far they have gone for us fans, Hell to me the combat looks similar to that of SB3. If you want evidence of this watch Zhong Hui's attacks, they are phenominal. As well as others. You all be choking down your "HaTE" once the game is released.
I sorta agree with what I think you're trying to say. But very few people are hatin dude. People have a right to complain (even if some of these complaints are down-right silly, I must admit), and most people are complaining because they want this game to be as good as it can (there is a thin line between this and simply setting really high expectations though) Also, every now and then, the conversation in this thread dies down, and I guess outta boredom, someone starts up a 'CLONES CAN GO TO HELL' or 'PANG DE OR BUST, MOFOS' (I want Pang De in, btw ._.)

I've said this to several people who've posted similar messages to yours. The complaining is annoying, everyone agrees. But complaining about the complaining is even more annoying, imo (although you do it with good intent, which is...good ._.) People will always complain (Myself included in this category, of course), but if it's something deemed 'silly', then just answer it bluntly, and move on to something else ;)
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Well, what I was talking about really was people who just come in here right "I hate this game. It's the worst game in the series," and just leave! I mean they really shouldn't be doing that.

Personally, I get really annoyed when people do that, but I try to keep it to myself sometimes.
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ZhugeJebus
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Free mode was always Stages - Story.
So YTR Wei side has Xiahou Dun in story (I think)- in Free mode you would get the same stage minus the "Cao Cao is the hero of this age of chaos" movie.

That is exactly what Chin said in the post-
Stage minus Story and you think its different.

Chi Bi in free mode will still have fire attack, Yi Ling as well. Fan castle will still flood. Those are events.
Just wait for the blasted game and then experience it. Or wait til Gameplay vids are posted by Tetsuo (for example) so you can see the menus and flow.

And yes Zhu Rong Fan the screen of Zhang Fei and (?) is not Wei Yan as you initially said and someone else said it was thinking you meant the Conquest screen. I paid notice to what you meant. I can read. I is that special :D

And people stop treating this place like a chatroom. I don't care when you login/ logout or sleep. Thanks Seraphil.
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:41 pm
Well, what I was talking about really was people who just come in here right "I hate this game. It's the worst game in the series," and just leave! I mean they really shouldn't be doing that.

Personally, I get really annoyed when people do that, but I try to keep it to myself sometimes.
You should see the GameFAQs board.

People really are saying they won't buy this game because of no Free Mode.
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i see the point in removing Free mode to add Chronicles mode, it clears space on the disk and has more content that a free mode has,
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:45 pm
i see the point in removing Free mode to add Chronicles mode, it clears space on the disk and has more content that a free mode has,
Surely they'd be able to fit both on a blu-ray disc?
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:21 pm
How can people call them selves fans, if all they do is ***** about things. I mean conquest mode has all the components. The replay value for this game is extraordinary and yet there are people who curse this game.
Answer me this FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! What do you want on the game, what keeps you so dissatisfied?????? ANSWER ME! Pang De: if he is uttered out your mouths i want you to drop a toaster in a bathtub. Look at this game, just do me a favor and take a sec to look at it. Do you realize how far they have gone for us fans, Hell to me the combat looks similar to that of SB3. If you want evidence of this watch Zhong Hui's attacks, they are phenominal. As well as others. You all be choking down your "HaTE" once the game is released.
Your suggestion that fans can only sit back and lap up everything that Koei ever does is absurd.

Does me wanting the game exactly like I want it make me not a fan? No
Do I go around posting every two minutes about why isn't this in the game or why that is? No, I may post about it once or twice and then move on; and if someone brings up the topic again in the future please excuse me if I post my criticisms; because not all of us are halfway up Koei's ass like most people.
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I've never read anything about "What if" can anyone tell me if its true/comfirmed?
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I don't mind complaining, for I do it myself sometimes, but what bothers me are the people who right one liners about how they hate the game and that's it. Posting your opinion is perfectly fine and so is criticizing. I never said DW7 was the perfect godly game, but it had major improvements over the last one and I really appreciate that despite the bad features that are still there.
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The way I see it is: Dynasty Warriors 7 is what it is. It could be the greatest in the series, or it could be the worst. But, regardless, many of the people on here will be buying the game anyways. I'm just glad I'll be gone when the game is actually out, because I don't want others ruining my opinion of the game, or ruining certain things that I'd rather see with my own eyes.

And this is off topic, but IGN gave Marvel vs Capcom 3 an 8.5 rating! Sad part is, I don't see Dynasty Warriors 7 getting anything past a 6.0, but even that's a long shot..
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:58 pm.
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Wow, what is everyone talking about now? Ive been gone for a few days and this thread made lots of posts lmao, its like people dont sleep! :XD

To be honest, when i found out that the moveset now depends on the weapons, i died a little inside lmao. I thought everyone will have a unique moveset, but 62 having unique movesets might be impossible for koei, and besides we have this 360 weapon types right? So i aint complaining. For me, i think being a fan of koei means that you shouldnt complain on what they do to the game, im glad koei bothered to make DW7 :)


So, March 10th, hurry the facck up! :XD I cant wait any longer! :kurokan:
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Yeah, I would like to finish the game or at least the Story Modes before hearing anyone else's opinion on this forum. I want to sit down, and take some time on the game and have fun with it!

Off-topic: Uh...I'm so not looking forward to reading all the pages when I come back! -_-
Edited by Snyf, Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:03 pm.
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Sorry if this has already been answered, but will we be able to use characters in other characters Chronicle/Conquest stages?

For example: Say Zhang Jiao's hex grid has the battle "Yellow Turban Rebellion" (Which lets be honest, it probably will), will we be able to play that stage, say, using Sima Zhao?

I doubt we will be able to do that with the gaiden/"what if" stages, but i'm just wondering if we will be able to do that with the rest of the stages.

And about the lack of free mode, from what i can see so far, chronicle mode more than makes up for it.

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Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:01 pm
Sorry if this has already been answered, but will we be able to use characters in other characters Chronicle/Conquest stages?

For example: Say Zhang Jiao's hex grid has the battle "Yellow Turban Rebellion" (Which lets be honest, it probably will), will we be able to play that stage, say, using Sima Zhao?

I doubt we will be able to do that with the gaiden/"what if" stages, but i'm just wondering if we will be able to do that with the rest of the stages.

And about the lack of free mode, from what i can see so far, chronicle mode more than makes up for it.

Most (read 70-80%+) of stages probably won't be character specific, only special weapon ones and specific what-if's, then there's the chance that a hex might have a list of specific characters useable (Maybe 4-5 characters each get their special weapon from the same hex, which is the same map but different events).

I highly HIGHLY doubt Yellow Turban Rebellion will be Zhang Jiao specific, and I also highly doubt you won't get to choose which faction to play in it.
Edited by Shadowclaimer, Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:18 pm.
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i know i'm really late on this, but i know thanks are always welcome. thanks Frayling0 for the Free Mode info and additional Conquest info. also thanks Faichaimond for other great info. nice work on getting informed and keeping us informed. :2up:
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Yes wei is Being revealed tomorow :D i cant wait!! Hopefully its cao pi and cao rui!!! Hurry up tuesday night!! WEI RULES ALL!
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Does anyone thought that Free Mode can be inside Conquest/Chronicle Mode?? It seems pretty possible to me...

This game is so far the best one in the franchise! If you don't like it, at least play it and get your final conclusion...
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