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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
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Reverie
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@Trevor: I bet there are different charge attacks as well, we can only hope man ha ha. Then someone who's looking to destroy hope will be like "No there is only one ex attack and two Musous and those are the only unique things." lol but like I said if if I'm wrong about the possibilities I'd careless if I'm wrong still living though it will bother me when playing the game.


Got to admit though it would be crazy yet funny if there is more than one ex attack lol.
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I wonder why they didn't show SIma yi game. *ponders* Nah, I won;t bring it up.

It would be a nice little pleasent surprise if there was more than one ex attack. With plus the normal weapon musou plus air musou plus special musou plus different charges could help allievate the issue I almost brought up.
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I still have some hope. Chin didn't really say anything yet about the charge attacks, so until he or someone else from Koei says otherwise, I'll still have some hope that characters have their own unique charge moves.

A good example is Jiang Wei. He looks like he's attacking very differently than Zhao Yun in the screenshots. Especially that forward thrusting attack he's doing with his trident.
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im just wondering, is there anything important that guan suo did? important battle any important kills or all he has is a girlfriend?
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Jebus
Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:22 am
im just wondering, is there anything important that guan suo did? important battle any important kills or all he has is a girlfriend?
He technically never existed. He was a fictional son of Guan Yu that was added into the novel a long time after it was first published, but beyond that, I haven't a clue and I don't care enough about him to look it up. I see him as a pointless add, along with his wife, but meh, Koei can't please everybody.

I -think- he kills some of the Wu officers involved in his father's death (the traitors and Lu Meng), and captures Lu Xun. But I have no idea if that's just part of the folklore around him, or if that's the part that was added into the novel.

Again, as I said, I care not for his add.
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And to top it all off I believe, the fictional Guan Suo girlfriend was the fictional Bao Sanning. Dissapointed in these two adds but can't do anything about it.

Really need some gameplay vids.
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Also according to ROTK11, Guan Suo Married the fictional daughter of Meng Huo and Zhu Rong who is called Hua Man... I found that rather amusing.. Such a coincidence. (However im led to believe that she wasnt even in the noval)..
Edited by Joetri10, Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:39 am.
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Jebus
Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:22 am
im just wondering, is there anything important that guan suo did? important battle any important kills or all he has is a girlfriend?
As ChibiGingi said he was useless even in the novel. Nothing important for sure... and yeah he killed someone from Wu`s officers that were guilt in Guan Yu`s death. (Not Pang Zhang and Zhu Ran, I guess it was someone else) Interesting fact that reason of Lu Meng`s death is unknown. So Guan Suo is fictional and he could kill Lu in the game. Also I guess he may using as late Shu officer, after WZP period. I mean battles against Jin, but not sure in anything that was said.

He may also fullfil role of Liao Hua, being trusted by Guan Yu and fighting untill the end of Shu.
Edited by WarHawk, Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:42 am.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:27 am
Jebus
Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:22 am
im just wondering, is there anything important that guan suo did? important battle any important kills or all he has is a girlfriend?
He technically never existed. He was a fictional son of Guan Yu that was added into the novel a long time after it was first published, but beyond that, I haven't a clue and I don't care enough about him to look it up. I see him as a pointless add, along with his wife, but meh, Koei can't please everybody.

I -think- he kills some of the Wu officers involved in his father's death (the traitors and Lu Meng), and captures Lu Xun. But I have no idea if that's just part of the folklore around him, or if that's the part that was added into the novel.

Again, as I said, I care not for his add.
He did jack squat in the novel. He participated in the Nanman campaign and that was about it (and like you said, that wasn't even added in until much later). All the stuff you mentioned is probably folklore. It might be in the game though. Who knows.

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He may also fullfil role of Liao Hua, being trusted by Guan Yu and fighting untill the end of Shu. I mean battles against Jin, but not sure in anything that was said.
I would have a heart attack.
Edited by Liu Bei 7, Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:41 am.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:48 am
Dao: Sima Zhao, Cao Cao, Xiahou Dun, possibly Sun Jian and Gan Ning.

Rapier: Sima Shi, Liu Chan, Yuan Shao and probably Cao Pi

Chan and Ball: Cao Ren, Dong Zhuo and Xu Huang (?)

Spear: Jiang Wei, Zhao Yun and Ma Chao

Pike: Lu Meng and Guan Yu

Double Edge Spear: Zhang Fei and Wei Yan

Twin Swords: Liu Bei and Lu Xun

Fans: The Two Qiaos

Scythe: Jia Xu and for some reasons, i can see Guan Suo using this weapon..

Throwing Knives: Wang Yuan Ji, Zhu Rong and maybe Gan Ning?

Gauntlets: Meng Huo and Ding Feng

Bow: Huang Zhong and Xiahou Yuan

Feather Fan: Sima Yi, Zhuge Liang and Zhuge Dan

Staff: Zhang Jiao and Pang Tong(?)

Broad Swords: Xiahou Ba and Guan Ping(?)

Bo Staff: Yue Ying and Zhou Yu

Other Sword: Zhou Tai and Sun Quan

So, theres quite alot of weapon similarities, only few characters with "unique" weapons and moveset.

Ma Dai: Paintbrush
Zhong Hui: Flying Swords
Deng Ai: Drill Spear
Zhang He: Iron Claws
Dian Wei: Axe
Zhang Liao: Twin Halberds
Zhen Ji: Flute
Cai Wenji: Harp
Ling Tong: Nunchuks
Sun Ce: Tonfas
Sun Shang Xiang: Chakrams
Taishi Ci: Twin Rods
Lian Shi: Crossbow
Bao Sanniang: Bladed Yoyo
Xing Cai: Sword and Shield
Guo Huai: Arm Cannon
Lu Bu: Sky Piercer Halberd
Xu Zhu: Club
Diao Chan: Possibly the dual maces or the whip.
Cao Pi: Dual Swords(?)
Huang Gai: River Slicer Club, although i can see him and Xu Zhu being in the same weapon category.
Gan Ning: Twin Daggers (?)

42 characters - "Cloned Moveset" including the ones with (?)
21 Characters - "Unique" Moveset including the ones with (?)

So, i think overall its a good chance that other characters might regain their original weapons i.e Cao Pi + Dual Swords, theres loads of clone movesets already, koei should stop making characters in the same weapon category... Or it will get boring in my opinion..
Ahhh, that is quite disappointing. =[
I was hoping for no cloning, but I guess with so many characters it was to be expected. =[....
Still......disappointed.
Even if there's only, at minimum, 35 different weapons, that's still 595 different combinations you could possibly have. Plus each character will have two unique musous, an EX attack and probably a fourth weapon to collect. Characters will be as unique as you want to make them.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:21 am
I still have some hope. Chin didn't really say anything yet about the charge attacks, so until he or someone else from Koei says otherwise, I'll still have some hope that characters have their own unique charge moves.

A good example is Jiang Wei. He looks like he's attacking very differently than Zhao Yun in the screenshots. Especially that forward thrusting attack he's doing with his trident.
Zhao yun is always unique the main if anything it's more so ma chao and jingo Wei looking different. Like zhao yun may have the same icon but his moveset looks similar to his previous and ma chao and jiang Wei look like they will have moves. Similar to DW 5 just from the looks of all three of them.


@hawk: the one ex attack that each character has will be fun for the moment lol like sima chaos moveset was awesome at first then after a using that one unique attack over and over it'll become repetitive but eh just saying why it isn't that simple lol. The Musous. I'm still wondering is ex attack unlockable or not because if it's an unlockable story mode the first time around might be boring if that's were you plan to start with because then thats alot of the same movesets you'll go through lol.
Edited by Reverie, Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:49 am.
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if they make Guan Suo look badass ill be cool and has a good weapon with him being in the game, but i really wish it was guan xing
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Jebus
Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:42 am
if they make Guan Suo look badass ill be cool and has a good weapon with him being in the game, but i really wish it was guan xing
He would need to be paired with Zhang Bao. Instead of Guan Xing and Zhang Bao, we got Guan Suo and Bao Sanniang. Maybe in DW8, although I think we have enough Guan children now.
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Lu Meng's death is a mystery? Historically, he died from illness shortly after Fan Castle (he probably either caught something there, was harboring an illness from He Fei campaigns like many other Wu officers, or was simply overworked and didn't take good care of himself).

Novel-wise, Lu Meng is killed by Guan Yu's ghost.

The past DW games pretty much have Meng dying right after Fan Castle, either through sickness (DW4XL this is brought up, DW5), random unseen 'arrow' that is shot after the battle is won (DW6 Lu Xun), or from his injuries received at Fan castle (DW6 Gan Ning and technically Ling Tong).

I swear to all that his holy, if that useless twit kills my Lu Meng in DW7, I'm going to rage. So hard. Better Meng to die from illness or wounds from the battle, than to be killed by that non existent pissant.

AND 4000TH post, ftw.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:45 am
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if they make Guan Suo look badass ill be cool and has a good weapon with him being in the game, but i really wish it was guan xing
He would need to be paired with Zhang Bao. Instead of Guan Xing and Zhang Bao, we got Guan Suo and Bao Sanniang. Maybe in DW8, although I think we have enough Guan children now.
yea there are alot of guans it would be like 4 of them, but if they add as many characters as they did in this game he has a good chance in making it, but thats not gonna be for a long time
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Jebus
Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:22 am
im just wondering, is there anything important that guan suo did? important battle any important kills or all he has is a girlfriend?
He technically never existed. He was a fictional son of Guan Yu that was added into the novel a long time after it was first published, but beyond that, I haven't a clue and I don't care enough about him to look it up. I see him as a pointless add, along with his wife, but meh, Koei can't please everybody.

I -think- he kills some of the Wu officers involved in his father's death (the traitors and Lu Meng), and captures Lu Xun. But I have no idea if that's just part of the folklore around him, or if that's the part that was added into the novel.

Again, as I said, I care not for his add.
He did jack squat in the novel. He participated in the Nanman campaign and that was about it (and like you said, that wasn't even added in until much later). All the stuff you mentioned is probably folklore. It might be in the game though. Who knows.

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He may also fullfil role of Liao Hua, being trusted by Guan Yu and fighting untill the end of Shu. I mean battles against Jin, but not sure in anything that was said.
I would have a heart attack.
Guan Suo made several contributions to Zhuge Liang's southern campaign(Nanman) by capturing Meng Huo and other things that were outshined by Wei Yan and Zhao Yun and no Guan Suo could never fulfill the role of Liao Hua Guan Suo will probably die sometime down line in the late era battles

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Maybe Guan Suo lived longer than Guan Xing. If they wanted one of Guan Yu's children alive to the end, that might be why he was chosen over Xing.

I haven't checked death dates and doubt there'd be anything solid there anyway since Suo is fictional though.
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I bet if Suo does kill Lu Meng, Chibi would hope to god where theres a stage where she can maim suo to death using any character that had to be used in that stage.

@Hawk thanatos its combos not weapons. There are probably more than what the list is.

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Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:48 am
Example, Zhuge Liang & Zhuge Dan. I didn't see Zhuge Dan doing those wind attacks that Zhuge Liang's doing in the screenshots.

So I am hoping that the characters at least have their own unique charge moves..I guess I'd need to see more proof of it.
Dude. Zhuge Dan IS doing those attacks, watch the PV again, you can see him doing them.

You should stop hoping, it has been confirmed that weapons of the same icons will have the same move sets, it's honestly a bit silly to wish otherwise at this point.
I don't know how I feel about Guan Suo, his inclusion doesn't bother me too much because I'm no history major, so I don't really get upset by fictional adds. But, I don't think I like the sound of him, he seems cheesy, and 'steamy' scenes between him and Bao don't interest me. They're wasting cut scenes on that? Really?
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:22 am
im just wondering, is there anything important that guan suo did? important battle any important kills or all he has is a girlfriend?
He technically never existed. He was a fictional son of Guan Yu that was added into the novel a long time after it was first published, but beyond that, I haven't a clue and I don't care enough about him to look it up. I see him as a pointless add, along with his wife, but meh, Koei can't please everybody.

I -think- he kills some of the Wu officers involved in his father's death (the traitors and Lu Meng), and captures Lu Xun. But I have no idea if that's just part of the folklore around him, or if that's the part that was added into the novel.

Again, as I said, I care not for his add.
He did jack squat in the novel. He participated in the Nanman campaign and that was about it (and like you said, that wasn't even added in until much later). All the stuff you mentioned is probably folklore. It might be in the game though. Who knows.

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He may also fullfil role of Liao Hua, being trusted by Guan Yu and fighting untill the end of Shu. I mean battles against Jin, but not sure in anything that was said.
I would have a heart attack.
Guan Suo made several contributions to Zhuge Liang's southern campaign(Nanman) by capturing Meng Huo and other things that were outshined by Wei Yan and Zhao Yun and no Guan Suo could never fulfill the role of Liao Hua Guan Suo will probably die sometime down line in the late era battles

Only thing that is confussingbis that he's fictional but did all that.
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im just wondering, is there anything important that guan suo did? important battle any important kills or all he has is a girlfriend?
He technically never existed. He was a fictional son of Guan Yu that was added into the novel a long time after it was first published, but beyond that, I haven't a clue and I don't care enough about him to look it up. I see him as a pointless add, along with his wife, but meh, Koei can't please everybody.

I -think- he kills some of the Wu officers involved in his father's death (the traitors and Lu Meng), and captures Lu Xun. But I have no idea if that's just part of the folklore around him, or if that's the part that was added into the novel.

Again, as I said, I care not for his add.
He did jack squat in the novel. He participated in the Nanman campaign and that was about it (and like you said, that wasn't even added in until much later). All the stuff you mentioned is probably folklore. It might be in the game though. Who knows.

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He may also fullfil role of Liao Hua, being trusted by Guan Yu and fighting untill the end of Shu. I mean battles against Jin, but not sure in anything that was said.
I would have a heart attack.
Guan Suo made several contributions to Zhuge Liang's southern campaign(Nanman) by capturing Meng Huo and other things that were outshined by Wei Yan and Zhao Yun and no Guan Suo could never fulfill the role of Liao Hua Guan Suo will probably die sometime down line in the late era battles

Only thing that is confussingbis that he's fictional but did all that.
From what I remember, he followed Wang Ping around in the Nanman campaign. And this is all in the semi-fictional novel Reverie, not history. That's why its confusing.
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He did jack squat in the novel. He participated in the Nanman campaign and that was about it (and like you said, that wasn't even added in until much later). All the stuff you mentioned is probably folklore. It might be in the game though. Who knows.

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He may also fullfil role of Liao Hua, being trusted by Guan Yu and fighting untill the end of Shu. I mean battles against Jin, but not sure in anything that was said.
I would have a heart attack.
Guan Suo made several contributions to Zhuge Liang's southern campaign(Nanman) by capturing Meng Huo and other things that were outshined by Wei Yan and Zhao Yun and no Guan Suo could never fulfill the role of Liao Hua Guan Suo will probably die sometime down line in the late era battles

Only thing that is confussingbis that he's fictional but did all that.
From what I remember, he followed Wang Ping around in the Nanman campaign. And this is all in the semi-fictional novel Reverie, not history. That's why its confusing.
well I'm looking at two different source one say he catpured Meng Huo the as you said he just follow Wang Ping around
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how do we know is xu zhu still has his club or not?im kinda hopeing he dose did the new pv or something show up?well i really hope he has his club back he will be the only character with a club unless guan suo or wei yan or someone has one.oh well tomorrow new scan,
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Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:01 pm
I hope the musou attacks aren't as 'samey' as they look like. They all look like the character just throwing up a huge explosion.... like everyone's musou attack is Pang Tong's C6 whirlwind from DW3-5. Zhong Hui's is a little different I suppose, but I hope they didn't lame-ify the musou attacks in order to give everyone two.
Bringing this up again, since people seem to be throwing around the same old clone/moveset/free mode issues again. Anyone else notice how bland Sima Shi's, Zhuge Dan's, Sima Zhao's, Xiahou Ba's, and Wang Yuanji's (her jumping one, that is) musou attacks are?
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zade
Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:02 am
how do we know is xu zhu still has his club or not?im kinda hopeing he dose did the new pv or something show up?well i really hope he has his club back he will be the only character with a club unless guan suo or wei yan or someone has one.oh well tomorrow new scan,
I can't even imagine him without a club as his primary weapon. I think he'll probably have it.
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