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| Paragon of Light | Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:51 am Post #12301 |
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The Comeback King
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Glad finally sees Guan Yu for the fraud he is. He was a great warrior but as a tactician and stratigest and politician, he failed miserably. Continued a seige that shouldn't of gone on blah blah blah. Still with how shu biased koei is, i doubt they will show any fault with guan yu. Edited by Paragon of Light, Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:51 am.
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| Baphomet | Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:51 am Post #12302 |
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She's a Super Hero now!
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Naw I agree, I'm a straight up Wei fan myself. Shu are the "villains" IMHO what with the highest count of executing their own guys and all. You can scream virtue and justice all you want but what you do in the shadows doesn't change the fact that you're going about things in a pretty questionable way. |
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| Cereal Killer | Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:53 am Post #12303 |
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Tiger General
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On the topic of Shu getting more characters. I think it actually makes alot of sense that they gave Shu 4 new characters, Wu 2 and Wei only 1. Blasphemous, Why? Wei actually really just got about 5-8 new generals in the form of the jin faction, it would be incredibly odd if at least Deng Ai, Guo Huai, Zhong Hui, Xiahou Ba, and Zhuge Dan were not in later wei battles for the northern campaigns. Plus Sima Yi is also likely to be in a bunch of the wei battles. Wu already had the most warriors by far, I think they were even up by a count of 2 on Shu, and with 2 additional characters, that pulls their numbers to even with Shu. So really I think you shouldn't be complaining about wei "not getting any characters" in this light they really got the most. |
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| Crazypete | Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:55 am Post #12304 |
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KW's Zhou Yu
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you're absolutely right man. I just feel bad those powerful generals were under such a weak leader who Koei even have the guts to put in DW7 . I can't wait to see how his ending is. However, quality doesn't matter if you're leader is weak willed unfortunately
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:55 am Post #12305 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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Wait. Zhong Hui... is Quinton Flynn? That makes sense. ![]() Of all the voices that guy has, they asked him to use THAT one? Ughhhhh. Wasted talent. |
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| Baphomet | Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:58 am Post #12306 |
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She's a Super Hero now!
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my eyes! X_X Anyway I still think it's bogus that Wei gets so short changed, I don't consider the Jin=Wei additions valid at all. They're only playable in the Jin forces. I'm still further burned that Wei doesn't have the last 2 of the "Wei's Five Generals" Yu Jin and Yue Jin. |
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| Xalfrea | Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:59 am Post #12307 |
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Keyblade hero
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Because its Shu, aka, Kingdom of gods. Koei loves Shu, ROTK loves Shu, Zhuge Liang is an omnipotent godsend, Liu Bei is the messiah, and Liu Shan is a football. |
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| WhiteHorseRide | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:01 am Post #12308 |
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Right General
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I don't really see the Shu bias that you guys do. Other Zhao Yun being the poster boy, I'd say Koei uses Wu more to advertise their games. |
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| Crazypete | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:01 am Post #12309 |
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I agree 100% with Baphomet. Yu Jin and Yue Jin need to be in this game so Wei can complete their five tiger generals as well. I'm just thinking how some idiots in America would say if they added both of them seeing they know nothing about Chinese history...yea i'm talking to you G4 |
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| necrosis | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:02 am Post #12310 |
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シュマゴラス 無双
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The main difference is that Sasuke is always portrayed as a badass, a stalwart ninja, something impressive, etc etc. Guan Suo's.....never portayed as some great super hero. He's always some loverboy with Meng Huo's daughter or BaoWhatsferface. He's hardly anything in his few mentions in the versions of ROT3K he is in. Sasuke's a pop culture badass, but Guan Suo is more of a pop culture Casanova.
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| Paragon of Light | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:02 am Post #12311 |
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The Comeback King
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YOu forgot in how the five tiger generals are infalliable in battle and can only get beaten by fukes and betrayal. But yea thats the general protaryal of shu. |
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:04 am Post #12312 |
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Booyaka, Booyaka
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Actually, I think Wu is more of a fan favorite, and because of that, Koei utilizes that in advertising. At least as far as fanart, cosplays and fan fiction goes, I always see a lot more Wu related works than I do with any other kingdom. At least with my observation, anyway. Tis a strange thing. *mind is blown about Quinton Flynn* |
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| Master cao pi | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:05 am Post #12313 |
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Affiliation-Wei Empire
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lol wei got 2 new characters Jia Xu and Cai Wen Ji but i personally wanted cao rui since shu gets 4 new characters for no reason and guan suo is not even important..cao hong is even more important then guan suo |
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| Crazypete | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:07 am Post #12314 |
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technically Cai Wen Ji isn't a new character because she was added in SF2 lol.
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| WhiteHorseRide | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:07 am Post #12315 |
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Right General
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It's not strange to me. Wu is clearly the most anime friendly kingdom. Edited by WhiteHorseRide, Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:07 am.
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| Xalfrea | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:07 am Post #12316 |
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Stinks that people hate his voice, because he does a REALLY good job as Axel in Kingdom Hearts. I blame the voice director. Once again.
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| Cao Hong 14 | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:08 am Post #12317 |
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The one and only
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guan suo isn't much of anything. He is mentioned maybe for a page or 2 in the novel and the disappears. he is never really glorified the way most major figure of the era are. I'm being honest when I say I can't think of a much worse add than him. Its actually challenging to think of a ROTK figure worse, thats really scary to think about since he is the final dw7 shu guy .
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| ChibiGingi | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:10 am Post #12318 |
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No, I completely agree with you. Quinton is talented, has a lot of emotion and a pretty good range of voices he could have used. And yet, who the hell told him to sound like THAT? As I said. Wasted talent. A good voice director wouldn't have done that. |
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| Crazypete | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:10 am Post #12319 |
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they add Guan Suo but they can't add Pang De who was actually real-_- |
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| Master cao pi | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:10 am Post #12320 |
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lol hmm yea true you can say that...but if you look at it compare the 13 wei warriors to the soon to be 17 shu warriors the 16 wu warriors 9 jin warriors 5 of them late wei warriors wei demolished wu very easily shu was a tougher fight for wei but in the end wei still ruled all intill jin came
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| WhiteHorseRide | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:11 am Post #12321 |
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Right General
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Yeah, Guan Suo sucks. No ifs ands or buts. Those that don't mind fictional adds, well, I say that you could just as easily play hack n slashes that aren't [loosely] based on history. If you are more into characters for aesthetic appeals, then they could easily use those awesome designs on actual historical people, in that way, everyone wins. And Let's be real. Characters are little more than skins this time around. We can see from pics that guys like Ma Chao and Zhao Yun share strings. What's so difficult about having Pang De in this game and having the same base moveset as Zhang Liao? Easy to do. Edited by WhiteHorseRide, Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:13 am.
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| Crazypete | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:12 am Post #12322 |
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wasn't Wu the last kingdom to go? Anyway all we need now is Guan Xing and we have all of Guan Yu's sons in DW lol. edit: if they want to add ficitional characters might as well add Zhou Cang as well no? Edited by Crazypete, Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:14 am.
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| Xalfrea | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:15 am Post #12323 |
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Yeah Wu is the last Kingdom to go, but they seemed to really suffer the worst fate, as a lot of the post-Sun Quan years was epitomized by lousy leaders, backstabbing, betrayal, and all culminating in despot of a ruler. Sun Hao can give Dong Zhuo a run for his money. |
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| Master cao pi | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:16 am Post #12324 |
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lol agree 98% with you but remember zhang liao is known to be the second best dynasty warrior behind lu bu so hes a unique character |
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| Yang Xiu | Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:16 am Post #12325 |
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Well, that's kinda what I'm saying. Most of the musou attacks just seem to be (variations of) a singular explosion |
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. I can't wait to see how his ending is. However, quality doesn't matter if you're leader is weak willed unfortunately




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