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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,593 Views)
Simihe
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:48 am
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:30 am
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:22 am
Simihe
Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:19 am
My DW7 was ruined not by the weapons, or movesets or what they did to Xiao Qiao...but the fact that Vic Morig---whatever his name is is playing the voice of four characters...He ruins my animes and now he's ruining my games :/
Maybe it's because I had the chance to see him at Mechacon over a year ago, but I actually like Vic M. His voices aren't completely bad, but I can understand if someone's getting tired of hearing him. That's me and Yuri Lowenthal. Not a terrible VA, but he's getting overused a lot.

That, and Vic sang "Soldier A" for us... he's such a sweetheart.

Sorry, off topic. I like him as Jia Xu, at least.
You've been attracted to his 'charm' But one day, you will see what a horrid person he actually is :/

I hope we get more scans :/
Wow, just... *facepalm* Unless he's made an intentional attack against you or REALLY hurt your feelings or something, you have no right to call him (or anyone else in this case) horrid. Murderers are horrid people.
And this isn't me speaking out of being offended because he's my favorite VA, but because that was, honestly, a stupid thing to say. At least have a reasonable explanation for why he's 'horrid' and everyone else should think he is.
Not trying to pick a fight, but I had to say it.

A few posts later: spirit shut up

Anyway, yeah, they really need to up the death scenes... none of them are all too historical, or even interesting for that matter. No death scene sticks out to me... D=
Why Vic is horrid:

-He has an extreme ego problem
-He's a Christan radical
-He's Homophobic to the extreme
-He's has a history of flirting and inviting underaged girls to his room
-He is extremely rude to people he has no interest in
-Has been banned from a few cons already for his childish, egolistic and questionable behavior
-He treats con staff like dogs
-He makes other events going on cancel or shorten so he can practice or set up his own event
-He's a horrible voice actor who can't even act, just talks in his normal voice and very overrated
-keep in mind There are more results for 'Vic Mignogna is a jerk' than 'Vic Mignogna is a nice guy.'
-His RANGERS (aka fans) are vicious and rabid that will pounce or tear you apart if you so much say he's a jerk
-has a history of casting himself for characters

just to name a few.

My own personal accounts with him:

Anime North one year I was standing in line at Tim Hortons in the morning, I stepped up when it was my turn to order and before I could Vic nudged into me and ordered for himself instead. He never apologized, just left.

Another Anime North, another year, Vic waiting for the elevator, he butted in front of con guests at the Rad when it showed up, put himself in there and then pushed the door closed button before anyone else could enter.

Another Anime North, this from last year, he made a event close very early because he couldn't hear himself practice in the room next door.

I know it's off topic, but I dislike being talked down too. I know what I'm talking about :/

ANYWAYS on topic. I want to see Diao Chan and Gan Ning this week. Oh and maybe Cao Pi.
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From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
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13 characters for Wei isn't bad considering they eventually became Jin and even the kingdom with the most characters, Shu, is getting 17, the first time they've been in the lead. (And considering Wei is losing one character, Sima Yi, to Jin.)

DW7: Shu 17, Wei 13, Wu 16, Jin 9
DW6: Shu 11, Wei 12, Wu 13
DW5: Shu 13, Wei 13, Wu 14
DW4: Shu 11, Wei 11, Wu 13
DW3: Shu 10, Wei 10, Wu 12

I'd like to hear Koei's reasons for leaving Pang De out, instead of the spiteful ones everyone seems to jump straight to.
Edited by Avieure, Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:21 am.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:16 am
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:11 am
Yeah, Guan Suo sucks.

No ifs ands or buts.

Those that don't mind fictional adds, well, I say that you could just as easily play hack n slashes that aren't [loosely] based on history. If you are more into characters for aesthetic appeals, then they could easily use those awesome designs on actual historical people, in that way, everyone wins.


And Let's be real. Characters are little more than skins this time around. We can see from pics that guys like Ma Chao and Zhao Yun share strings. What's so difficult about having Pang De in this game and having the same base moveset as Zhang Liao? Easy to do.
lol agree 98% with you but remember zhang liao is known to be the second best dynasty warrior behind lu bu so hes a unique character
Eh. There are a few better pure warriors than Zhang Liao, but he's almost in a tier all his own as a general.

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besides Lu Bu being the strongest and best dynasty warrior I WOULD LIKE TO SEE EVERYONE'S TOP 5 DYNASTY WARRIORS :D not including jin warriors because we don't know much of them yet
1.Zhang liao
2.Cao pi
3.Gan ning
4.Ma chao
5.Xiahou dun

yea i know im wei biased i cant help it lol ^_____^
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:20 am
From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
All I can say is that Tong Gate and Fan Castle or going to be very weird again with him absent.
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I'm Ready to see scans of Gan Ning And Cao Pi. Two of my favorite characters in the Dynasty Warriors series.
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I understand that Wei have not 13 characters, Deng Ai, Sima Yi and Xiahou Ba could be also participate in Wei`s story. But I want at least two more characters, Pang De and Li Dian. Although Yu Jin could be awesome addition, but somehow I like Li Dian a little more.
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Simihe
Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:19 am
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:48 am
Simihe
Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:30 am
ChibiGingi
Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:22 am
Simihe
Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:19 am
My DW7 was ruined not by the weapons, or movesets or what they did to Xiao Qiao...but the fact that Vic Morig---whatever his name is is playing the voice of four characters...He ruins my animes and now he's ruining my games :/
Maybe it's because I had the chance to see him at Mechacon over a year ago, but I actually like Vic M. His voices aren't completely bad, but I can understand if someone's getting tired of hearing him. That's me and Yuri Lowenthal. Not a terrible VA, but he's getting overused a lot.

That, and Vic sang "Soldier A" for us... he's such a sweetheart.

Sorry, off topic. I like him as Jia Xu, at least.
You've been attracted to his 'charm' But one day, you will see what a horrid person he actually is :/

I hope we get more scans :/
Wow, just... *facepalm* Unless he's made an intentional attack against you or REALLY hurt your feelings or something, you have no right to call him (or anyone else in this case) horrid. Murderers are horrid people.
And this isn't me speaking out of being offended because he's my favorite VA, but because that was, honestly, a stupid thing to say. At least have a reasonable explanation for why he's 'horrid' and everyone else should think he is.
Not trying to pick a fight, but I had to say it.

A few posts later: spirit shut up

Anyway, yeah, they really need to up the death scenes... none of them are all too historical, or even interesting for that matter. No death scene sticks out to me... D=
Why Vic is horrid:

-He has an extreme ego problem
-He's a Christan radical
-He's Homophobic to the extreme
-He's has a history of flirting and inviting underaged girls to his room
-He is extremely rude to people he has no interest in
-Has been banned from a few cons already for his childish, egolistic and questionable behavior
-He treats con staff like dogs
-He makes other events going on cancel or shorten so he can practice or set up his own event
-He's a horrible voice actor who can't even act, just talks in his normal voice and very overrated
-keep in mind There are more results for 'Vic Mignogna is a jerk' than 'Vic Mignogna is a nice guy.'
-His RANGERS (aka fans) are vicious and rabid that will pounce or tear you apart if you so much say he's a jerk
-has a history of casting himself for characters

just to name a few.

My own personal accounts with him:

Anime North one year I was standing in line at Tim Hortons in the morning, I stepped up when it was my turn to order and before I could Vic nudged into me and ordered for himself instead. He never apologized, just left.

Another Anime North, another year, Vic waiting for the elevator, he butted in front of con guests at the Rad when it showed up, put himself in there and then pushed the door closed button before anyone else could enter.

Another Anime North, this from last year, he made a event close very early because he couldn't hear himself practice in the room next door.

I know it's off topic, but I dislike being talked down too. I know what I'm talking about :/

ANYWAYS on topic. I want to see Diao Chan and Gan Ning this week. Oh and maybe Cao Pi.
Boo ****ing hoo. Just because you're overly whiny about him and his antics which don't apply to the topic at hand, is no justification to further throw negative remarks his way. The only importance he has to this game is his performance in it and nothing else. So don't drag this personal crap into this.


Though honestly I wish you'd all talk about something other than the voice performances right now. Its rather, eh as far as engaging discussion is concerned for a video game.
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Even though I'm on Shu's side, I never understood how they are so biased towards them. Is it because of the officers like Zhao Yun and Guan Yu or the legendary Zhuge Liang? Each kingdom had advantages and disadvantages but I don't like how Wei get left behind here :/ on the bright side, at least Wei and Wu don't have two pointless fictional people in their faction.... :rolleyes: not that I remember right now lol
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I would say wu did get the worst of it out of all the three kingdoms. They pretty much just sat around and waited while decay destroyed them on the inside with bloody successions and all that political manevuer, much worse than what happened in shu with liu shan and the caos being overthrown by the simas.

Well, *raises a glass* cheers to possibly upcoming scans and a pv tomorrow. And to the next firestorm that will engulf this forum.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:23 am
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:20 am
From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
All I can say is that Tong Gate and Fan Castle or going to be very weird again with him absent.
Well, I might be giving Koei too much credit when I say that they're excluding Pang De (again) because they probably realized that they jumped the gun on his inclusion in the first place and did (what they think) is a terrible execution. While he did have room to improve, I think Koei's backing him out for a second time because they feel that they couldn't do him 'justice', and will hold off until they figure out how to many him interesting to the Japanese fans, or will work in him and Yu Jin.

Of course, I might be giving Koei way too much credit. It's the only logical reason I can come up with as to why he's cut again, outside of pure 'hated' from the Japanese fans. To cut a character entirely for that, especially when there are a lot of other 'hated' characters that have made it in?

Pang De is like Quinton Flynn- successful on paper, but bad execution totally ruins the character.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:23 am
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:20 am
From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
All I can say is that Tong Gate and Fan Castle or going to be very weird again with him absent.
that is true :O pang de was a huge force during the battles of tong gate and fan castle..koei is tripping..they add ding feng and guan suo for what reasons again?
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:25 am
I understand that Wei have not 13 characters, Deng Ai, Sima Yi and Xiahou Ba could be also participate in Wei`s story. But I want at least two more characters, Pang De and Li Dian. Although Yu Jin could be awesome addition, but somehow I like Li Dian a little more.
I really doubt Jin characters would be playable in the Wei story, even if they're present. So it's most likely 13, unless I missed someone.

(No kingdom bias here :( )
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:27 am
Even though I'm on Shu's side, I never understood how they are so biased towards them. Is it because of the officers like Zhao Yun and Guan Yu or the legendary Zhuge Liang? Each kingdom had advantages and disadvantages but I don't like how Wei get left behind here :/ on the bright side, at least Wei and Wu don't have two pointless fictional people in their faction.... :rolleyes: not that I remember right now lol
Because Wei is....EVIL!!!!!!!!

When the original author of ROTK is from Shu itself, it's natural it'll be propaganda.

You don't see Cao Cao being characterized as a noble being of justice, do you?
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Im just excited to see some new scans. Should be interesting to say the least.
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Xalfrea
Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:20 am
From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
All I can say is that Tong Gate and Fan Castle or going to be very weird again with him absent.
that is true :O pang de was a huge force during the battles of tong gate and fan castle..koei is tripping..they add ding feng and guan suo for what reasons again?
Hey, don't be trash talking Ding Feng, buddy. He killed Zhang Liao and he likes poetry. Epic general right there!
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@ master cao pi DIng Feng actually had merit and dealt some pretty heavy blows to wei. In the novel, he killed zhang liao while in history zhang liao did from illness. Along with lu kang, was one of the last talented generals for wu. He got arrogant in the end but still, its more than i can say for the nobody that is guan suo.
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From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
All I can say is that Tong Gate and Fan Castle or going to be very weird again with him absent.
I wholeheartedly agree. Who's going to protect Fan Castle now? Xu Huang? i'm sry but in DW6 with Pang De's absence Fan Castle was very weird for me. Now i can only imagine how it's going to be in DW7. I think the reason why people hated him was because he was slow. However, he was a tank when he attacked :OMG:
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Lol so many single minded people on this forum. Also when in the hell did ma chao and zhao yun share s strings I must of missed something, you must of meant ma chao and jiang Wei lol.

iPod auto correct can be annoying sometimes.
Edited by Reverie, Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:37 am.
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what i still don't understand is why did Shu get whopping 4 new characters while poor Wei only got 1 and Wu got 2? man could Koei at least have given us Cao Hong?
Koei is Shu biased, I though everyone knew this? It's not exactly a close guarded secret.
This doesn't make it anymore unjustified. I know they really adhere to the books vision of events but its a little crazy how biased they are.Im not attacking you just saying that just because its expected doesn't make it anymore warrented.
Naw I agree, I'm a straight up Wei fan myself. Shu are the "villains" IMHO what with the highest count of executing their own guys and all. You can scream virtue and justice all you want but what you do in the shadows doesn't change the fact that you're going about things in a pretty questionable way.
Couldn't have said better myself. All the more reason I dislike Shu. They had several great officers thats potential was wasted on Lui Bei . Im glad to see a like minded individual.
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Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:20 am
From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
All I can say is that Tong Gate and Fan Castle or going to be very weird again with him absent.
Well, I might be giving Koei too much credit when I say that they're excluding Pang De (again) because they probably realized that they jumped the gun on his inclusion in the first place and did (what they think) is a terrible execution. While he did have room to improve, I think Koei's backing him out for a second time because they feel that they couldn't do him 'justice', and will hold off until they figure out how to many him interesting to the Japanese fans, or will work in him and Yu Jin.

Of course, I might be giving Koei way too much credit. It's the only logical reason I can come up with as to why he's cut again, outside of pure 'hated' from the Japanese fans. To cut a character entirely for that, especially when there are a lot of other 'hated' characters that have made it in?

Pang De is like Quinton Flynn- successful on paper, but bad execution totally ruins the character.
What about Pang De was "ruined". He was an unstoppable beast of destruction in dw5 and my favorite character. Sure, he got lost on his way to King Arthur's court, but a bad sense of direction is no reason to hate.
Edited by Squidlipticus, Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:38 am.
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Xalfrea
Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:20 am
From a logical standpoint there would absolutely be no reason to cut Pang De.

Since there are so many reasons as to why he CAN have worked in the game, the only answer left is: the Japanese fanbase or at least most of it, hates his guts.

Obviously Koei wouldn't care about any other nationality of fanbase.
All I can say is that Tong Gate and Fan Castle or going to be very weird again with him absent.
Well, I might be giving Koei too much credit when I say that they're excluding Pang De (again) because they probably realized that they jumped the gun on his inclusion in the first place and did (what they think) is a terrible execution. While he did have room to improve, I think Koei's backing him out for a second time because they feel that they couldn't do him 'justice', and will hold off until they figure out how to many him interesting to the Japanese fans, or will work in him and Yu Jin.

Of course, I might be giving Koei way too much credit. It's the only logical reason I can come up with as to why he's cut again, outside of pure 'hated' from the Japanese fans. To cut a character entirely for that, especially when there are a lot of other 'hated' characters that have made it in?

Pang De is like Quinton Flynn- successful on paper, but bad execution totally ruins the character.
Wait, are you saying the Japanese fans hate Pang De?
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You've been attracted to his 'charm' But one day, you will see what a horrid person he actually is :/

I hope we get more scans :/
Wow, just... *facepalm* Unless he's made an intentional attack against you or REALLY hurt your feelings or something, you have no right to call him (or anyone else in this case) horrid. Murderers are horrid people.
And this isn't me speaking out of being offended because he's my favorite VA, but because that was, honestly, a stupid thing to say. At least have a reasonable explanation for why he's 'horrid' and everyone else should think he is.
Not trying to pick a fight, but I had to say it.

A few posts later: spirit shut up

Anyway, yeah, they really need to up the death scenes... none of them are all too historical, or even interesting for that matter. No death scene sticks out to me... D=
Why Vic is horrid:

-He has an extreme ego problem
-He's a Christan radical
-He's Homophobic to the extreme
-He's has a history of flirting and inviting underaged girls to his room
-He is extremely rude to people he has no interest in
-Has been banned from a few cons already for his childish, egolistic and questionable behavior
-He treats con staff like dogs
-He makes other events going on cancel or shorten so he can practice or set up his own event
-He's a horrible voice actor who can't even act, just talks in his normal voice and very overrated
-keep in mind There are more results for 'Vic Mignogna is a jerk' than 'Vic Mignogna is a nice guy.'
-His RANGERS (aka fans) are vicious and rabid that will pounce or tear you apart if you so much say he's a jerk
-has a history of casting himself for characters

just to name a few.

My own personal accounts with him:

Anime North one year I was standing in line at Tim Hortons in the morning, I stepped up when it was my turn to order and before I could Vic nudged into me and ordered for himself instead. He never apologized, just left.

Another Anime North, another year, Vic waiting for the elevator, he butted in front of con guests at the Rad when it showed up, put himself in there and then pushed the door closed button before anyone else could enter.

Another Anime North, this from last year, he made a event close very early because he couldn't hear himself practice in the room next door.

I know it's off topic, but I dislike being talked down too. I know what I'm talking about :/

ANYWAYS on topic. I want to see Diao Chan and Gan Ning this week. Oh and maybe Cao Pi.
Boo ****ing hoo. Just because you're overly whiny about him and his antics which don't apply to the topic at hand, is no justification to further throw negative remarks his way. The only importance he has to this game is his performance in it and nothing else. So don't drag this personal crap into this.


Though honestly I wish you'd all talk about something other than the voice performances right now. Its rather, eh as far as engaging discussion is concerned for a video game.
Good Lord :crazy: ...

He was simply stating an opinion WITH fact's, he has every reason to hate the guy, I’ve seen vids of him, he makes Louie Spence seem acceptable to be on tv :whistle: ... As for his Voice acting, i hated the voice Akechi Mitsuhide had in sw3, and now i found out who voiced him... <_<

:mellow:
Edited by Joetri10, Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:38 am.
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i was never a fan of wu, i only liked gan ning and sun ce, everyone else just didnt do much for me, i always enjoyed shu the most but also really like wei
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