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I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
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TrevorxTravesty
Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:52 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:48 pm
"I said it before & I'll say it again: I really do think characters will have different charge attacks as well."

Problem is Chin has said a few times that only EX and Musou moves will be unique. I want to believe we have unique Charge attacks....but....We can't pick and choose what to believe from him, it's either all or nothing (and for me it's all, I trust him and what he's seen).
I asked Chin on Facebook, and he said he didn't know about the charge attacks '-_- He said he only played with the Jin characters, and no one else.

That's when I asked him if Zhao Yun had different charge attacks than Ma Chao or Jiang Wei.
Hey Trevor. :wave:
When'd you ask Chin about that? I could have sworn the most recent thing I heard him say about movesets is that if characters share the same weapon type, their moves will be identical aside from EX attacks and musous. :/
Edited by Sagittarius, Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:00 pm.
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well most likely we have 1-2 waves of characters remain to be revealed, anyway i was watching the screenshots of the conquest mode in KOEI at facebook and i metioned in the map there was yellow troops and officers so i hope for 3rd assault parties as DW6 or a neutural force like DWO.
Also (not 100% sure) i think the alied troops level is like SW the allied force is heavely outnumberd by the enemy force (in troops) i have metioned this here
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:56 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:36 pm
I said it before & I'll say it again: I really do think characters will have different charge attacks as well. I don't think that Guan Yu will be doing the exact same charge attacks as Lu Meng. Or Zhao Yun doing the same attacks as the other spear users. THAT would be utter heresy, and a kick right to Koei's balls.

I really hope this new Wei PV shows charge attacks of users who share weapons (Cao Cao, for instance) so we can see if there are differences. Just keep some shred of hope, everyone.
They didn't show Sima Yi moveset, so they will probably not be showing Cao Cao either.
If Xu Huang is in the PV and if he has the Chain, then we will compare him to Cao Ren.

And I really doubt we will see more Xiahou Dun moves (except musou attacks) then in the PV we already had...so it's gonna be hard to compare with Sima Zhao...
EDIT : Ok Lu Meng and Guan Yu as same icon, but they may be considered as two different weapons, with different movesets...
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:58 pm
I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
*high fives*

Welcome to the club of people who are fine as long as the roster has some new faces.

I'm fine with it, as long as I can give anyone any weapon I don't give half a damn really. I can be hopeful (more moves would be nice) but it won't cripple my opinion of the game.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:58 pm
I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
You get pleased by simple things, don't you? That is the lamest thing ever. The only differentiating things being a musou & some EX attacks? You know you're not gonna be spamming the musou majority of the time. Most of the time will be spent doing the s-strings and charge attacks.

It is going to be pretty ridiculous if Koei decided to give everyone the same charge attacks as well. Call me stubborn, but I'm going to wait until I see the Wei PV, or the other screenshots on the official website.

Guan Yu doing the same charge attacks as Lu Meng...That is sacrilege. Those two shouldn't even be using the same weapon type, but then again, I'm not the game developer.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:01 pm
Fantaji
Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:58 pm
I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
*high fives*

Welcome to the club of people who are fine as long as the roster has some new faces.

I'm fine with it, as long as I can give anyone any weapon I don't give half a damn really. I can be hopeful (more moves would be nice) but it won't cripple my opinion of the game.
Yes. The fact that they each have an EX attack and different Musou attacks are not completely full clones. I do not forget that you can also change weapons as desired, which brings much more diversity.

I have nothing to reproach to Dynasty Warriors 7. :heart:

@TrevorxTravesty: Yes, I am very happy with what is offered in DW7, I have absolutely nothing against it.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:52 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:48 pm
"I said it before & I'll say it again: I really do think characters will have different charge attacks as well."

Problem is Chin has said a few times that only EX and Musou moves will be unique. I want to believe we have unique Charge attacks....but....We can't pick and choose what to believe from him, it's either all or nothing (and for me it's all, I trust him and what he's seen).
I asked Chin on Facebook, and he said he didn't know about the charge attacks '-_- He said he only played with the Jin characters, and no one else.

That's when I asked him if Zhao Yun had different charge attacks than Ma Chao or Jiang Wei.
I hope you are right.
I can't even imagine Ma Chao or Jiang Wei having the same charge-attacks like Zhao Yun, who has some of his DW6-moveset (from that what i see in the first PV).
You said something about Zhuge Dan's and Zhuge Liang's charge-attacks.
I have read some explaining on one of the last pages about Dan's EX-attack. I guess, that the lightning-attack(s) from him in the Jin-PV are his EX-attack(s). Besides, he has some fire-element-attacks too (according to his screenshots).
Liang's EX-attack would be the wind-attack(s) from his screenshots.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:01 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:58 pm
I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
*high fives*

Welcome to the club of people who are fine as long as the roster has some new faces.

I'm fine with it, as long as I can give anyone any weapon I don't give half a damn really. I can be hopeful (more moves would be nice) but it won't cripple my opinion of the game.
Thirded - i also don't care if the moves are the same, the characters can change any of their weapons - the charges may come out different but they might not - as shadowclaimer said it won't cripple my opinion of the game
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Lord Yuan Shu should get a nobel prize really, that's the least I can say.

Anyways, so far this game is showing more and more signs of disappiontment. I can see a DW6-like rampage going on after DW7 is released. Some new additions are okay but they don't level up with the let downs the game is showing week after week.. if I ever get this game, it'll be for Deng Ai and Jia Xu, and maybe the massive number stages, and I'll only get it after I read many reviews and possibly, KOEI insults that will overflow this board. When DW6 was announced, many played the "be grateful" card, then when it came out they all regretted it and went angry. It'll happen again, and all the KOEI's ass kissers will get bitten from the same snake, again.
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i have heard that the attacks/charge attacks will not be the same. At the worst the will look similar but not cloned i think i saw that on the KOEI's facebokk page.
i cant keep up with this pace :D
Edited by ZhaoThun, Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:10 pm.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:58 pm
I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
No, me to
1 EX & 2 mousu attacks is good and don't forget the combined
meveset of two weapons and switch attacks

all of these things are fine with me
Edited by MĀJĒD, Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:12 pm.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:09 pm
Fantaji
Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:58 pm
I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
No, me to
1 EX & 2 mousu attacks is good and don't forget the combined
meveset of two weapons and switch attacks

all of these things is fine with me
:bowdown: I'm glad to see other people think like me.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:09 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:58 pm
I must be the only one not to be disturbed that the characters can only have an EX attack and Musou attacks different from each other.
No, me to
1 EX & 2 mousu attacks is good and don't forget the combined
meveset of two weapons and switch attacks

all of these things are fine with me
I don't like it,but it's better than DW6.

Honestly,I can't see why people still try to believe that people with the same weapon class have different charge attacks. If the weapons had different charge attacks,why put them into classes then if they could just be their own unique weapons? I don't see the point of weapon classes when the only similar thing is the S-string.

Simply deal with it,charge attacks are most likely going to be the same,just check Cao Cao's,Xiahou Dun's,Sima Zhao's,Sun Jian's and Sun Quan's screenshots. I believe all of them have one pic with the same stance,and it looks like a charge attack. And when they share one charge attack,they'll probably share the others as well.
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Problem is EX and Musou moves are used so rarely compared to Charge attacks that are used all the time. I think this is the problem most have with it, like Trevor said.

Also remember EX attacks are only used with your main weapon so you're still going to be predominantly using those weapons as at least one of your two options in battle. Which case it would be pretty lame using the 9th Dao user if they all have the same Charge attacks.

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Wow..You lot really are so simple. You're basically applauding Koei's lack of deep gameplay. The gameplay really is the core of it all, because that is what you'll be doing the whole entire time. You guys seriously don't care if all of your favorite characters have the same charge attacks as everyone else, but the Ex attacks/musou are different?

Man...You guys have been kissing Koei's ass for too long. I don't see how anyone can just bow down like that. Then again, I am not a follower. I do & think in my own way. It's a pity a lot of people here think with a hive mentality.

Lord Yuan Shu had many great points, and yet he got roasted because he is very passionate about his anger towards Koei's lack of certain things? Wow. Just wow, people.

The only difference between me & Lord Yuan Shu is that I'm still getting the game because I love the series, in spite of many flaws that fans just blindly ignore due to the fear of the backlash that others will say to them. I think things are wrong, and dammit I will voice my opinion.
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In those pictures comparing Xiahou Bieber's and Guan Ping's swords, aren't they using the same charge attack?
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:16 pm
Problem is EX and Musou moves are used so rarely compared to Charge attacks that are used all the time. I think this is the problem most have with it, like Trevor said.

Also remember EX attacks are only used with your main weapon so you're still going to be predominantly using those weapons as at least one of your two options in battle. Which case it would be pretty lame using the 9th Dao user if they all have the same Charge attacks.

Yes, I know all this. But I'm not difficult. :mellow:
Using cloned charges does not bother me, for my part. ^_^

@Trevor: I think everyone is free to think whatever it wants about it.
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well as i said before at KOEIs facebook page said that the worster that it will happen is the charge attacks to be similar but not exatly the same ( if i remember well it was on KOEI'S facebook page)
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Maybe the icons don't mean the same moveset it's something like recognizing the weapons

e.g

all the swords users how they will do icons for all of them ?
Edited by MĀJĒD, Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:27 pm.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:06 pm
When DW6 was announced, many played the "be grateful" card, then when it came out they all regretted it and went angry. It'll happen again, and all the KOEI's ass kissers will get bitten from the same snake, again.
I kinda think the opposite. To me it looks like the disappointment of DW6 has made many people paranoid that this game will end up the same story. It looks alot better to me at this point than DW6 did and I'm confident that it's going to be what that one should've been. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist or maybe I'm just less demanding than your average member, but either way I'm more than content.

EDIT: And to anyone saying that same charges = lack of depth: Putting in a different Ex attack for each character which requires a different button combo is actual more depth than individual charges for each character that all require the same buttons for everyone. Just saying... :mellow:
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You're right, Fantaji. Everyone is right to think what they want. Which is why there are many mindless clones on here as well....It's like the clones escaped from the game & into here, and many people think alike, or are just blind followers being shepherded by Koei.

You know why people like Lord Yuan Shu get attacked? Because people like that don't think like you do. They think differently, and are outspoken, and therefor considered wrong or a heretic that should be burned at the stake.

Hook, line & sinker.
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:25 pm.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:18 pm
Yes, I know all this. But I'm not difficult. :mellow:
Using cloned charges does not bother me, for my part. ^_^

@Trevor: I think everyone is free to think whatever it wants about it.
well neither i have a problem with a cloned charge attacks but who knows maybe it will turn out well. But most people where negative about the cloned charge attacks so i dont think KOEI make clone attacks again.
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This thread is about to get locked again at this rate, there's no reason for people to be acting like total assholes to eachother because of differing opinions, we're all better than that, let's get this thread back on topic and stop sniping eachother at the throat over stuff we don't know for sure.

Across the board, both sides.
Edited by Shadowclaimer, Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:25 pm.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:25 pm
Damn Trevor think you could be more hostile?

This thread is about to get locked again at this rate, there's no reason for people to be acting like total assholes to eachother because of differing opinions, we're all better than that, let's get this thread back on topic and stop sniping eachother at the throat over stuff we don't know for sure.

Across the board, both sides.
Yeah... Trevor disappointed me on this point, he also becomes rude when he disagrees.
Oh, well.

I think everyone is free to think whatever he wants.
Become rude because you do not agree, it's pure and simple immaturity. ^_^

I have no complaints about this game is my right.
And I know that others think like me.
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