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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,545 Views)
ZhaoThun
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yeah the other kingdoms PV will do much good. I am sure that they will saw us some of the Movesets and charge attacks (hot they look like). i am certainly going to buy this game. I think its too early to judge. but i am sure from the greatnes, DW7 will go again to awesomenes ( fro me) at least well it's almost again to awesomenes because its not a big deal the old maps
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:50 pm
the one thing that annoys me is the "i killed an officer " captions, they where very annoying in DW6 when you killed like 7 officers in like 3 seconds, so there's the SAME thing over and over and over, there should be like 4 different enemy officer defeated quotes, not just one
This.

"Ennemy officier defeated!" Sooo boring. :hmmm:

It would be nice that each character can have several different phrases when you kill a officer. But if this is not the case, it is not very annoying, I do not think it's important. ^_^
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All I know is, as soon as this game releases in Japan on the 10th, I am taking a vacation from this place, because some idiot will wind up posting spoilers or gameplay vids, and that will just ruin it then & there.

I'd rather have the game in my own hands & experience it my own way, then hear someone's opinion that may/may not turn me away from it altogether.

@Sum Gai Those are the only games you're getting? I'm getting...MvC 3, BulletStorm, Dragon Age II, Yakuza 4, Mortal Kombat, Dynasty Warriors 7, and possibly Crysis 2. Oh, and L.A. Noire.
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Just a small note from a huge Guan Yu fan. Is it just me or does Blue Dragaon look freakin AWESOME in this one. this design is easily better than most of his uniqe/4th weapon designs IMO. The seriously made him BA in this. And here's to hoping that Guan Ping gets a BA sword this time as well. Can't wait for the Shu PV!

P.S. Gotta agree with one of the above posters (sorry I forgot your name buddy) but I doubt that everyone that shares a weapon will have the same exact moveset. Some characters are far too iconic for that. For example, both Cao Cao and Sun Jian are in the dao ategory. There has not been a single game where Cao Cao has fought even remotely like Sun Jian even if they did have similar weapons. Same goes for Guan Yu and Lu Meng. And I'm willing to bet it'll be the same for Zhang Fei and Wei Yan. Zhang Fei rarely used the smaller blade on his spear in DW6. So if his moveset is somewhat of a mesh between that and DW5 then he won't be using it much. Where as Wei Yan getting his old weapon back, fought using many spin moves and such so I doubt they'll really be fighting the same even if they have the same category. Or Zhao Yun, Jian Wei, and Ma CHao for that matter. There is no doubt in my mind that Ma Chao and Jiang Wei will indeed have some similarities, as they always have. however, the chances of Zhao Yun (the DW poster boy) having an identical moveset to them is slim to none. I think we are forgetting what we already know about the way the movesets are set up for some people. Yes there are certain people that will no doubt be similar but we have to remember that some of the the weapons from DW5 were used completely different to how many people now would use them.

Let's just say that for some reason Xu Huang ends up in the same category as Lu Bu. Do you honeslty think KOEI would give them identical movesets. We have to use some logic here people. Other than a few of the dao users and the mace users, I really don;t see many people running the risk of being "clones" (even though it is impossible to be complete clones on this anyway). Even for the guys who have dobule swords. Cao Pi went back to his old self, so we need more info on him to determine how he'll play. And as far as the screenshot that shows them doing the smae motion (this also applys to the rapier users) did you all not stop to think that it could easily just be their weapon switch attack. That would easily explain why it looks the same.

Oh and to the guy who said that Sima Zhao and xiahou DUn share some charge attack, could you please point that out to me, becuase I can't find it.

/rant
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Moogle
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Just a quick reminder for you all: it's just a video game.
it's not worth raging on the internet over now is it?

You won't get far in the world if you don't respect others' opinions, there's also a complaints thread for those who aren't pleased with the game... I don't see why there should be problems, if you're really so persistent to want to continue arguing, can't you inbox one another?
It's not fair when people have to search through pages among pages of mindless spam just to see any new info. Selfishness really.

Sure, this post is also spam, but I've been trying to ignore your pathetic arguments too long, all I want to see is if there's new information or any constructive/interesting posts on DW7.

You're getting beyond annoying and the argument is getting no where at all. Just stop?
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well i believe it would be good something like SW3, the player character to say "enemy officer defeated" after some are defeated for some generics just the report is good enough
Edited by ZhaoThun, Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:57 pm.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:54 pm
Just a small note from a huge Guan Yu fan. Is it just me or does Blue Dragaon look freakin AWESOME in this one. this design is easily better than most of his uniqe/4th weapon designs IMO. The seriously made him BA in this. And here's to hoping that Guan Ping gets a BA sword this time as well. Can't wait for the Shu PV!

P.S. Gotta agree with one of the above posters (sorry I forgot your name buddy) but I doubt that everyone that shares a weapon will have the same exact moveset. Some characters are far too iconic for that. For example, both Cao Cao and Sun Jian are in the dao ategory. There has not been a single game where Cao Cao has fought even remotely like Sun Jian even if they did have similar weapons. Same goes for Guan Yu and Lu Meng. And I'm willing to bet it'll be the same for Zhang Fei and Wei Yan. Zhang Fei rarely used the smaller blade on his spear in DW6. So if his moveset is somewhat of a mesh between that and DW5 then he won't be using it much. Where as Wei Yan getting his old weapon back, fought using many spin moves and such so I doubt they'll really be fighting the same even if they have the same category. Or Zhao Yun, Jian Wei, and Ma CHao for that matter. There is no doubt in my mind that Ma Chao and Jiang Wei will indeed have some similarities, as they always have. however, the chances of Zhao Yun (the DW poster boy) having an identical moveset to them is slim to none. I think we are forgetting what we already know about the way the movesets are set up for some people. Yes there are certain people that will no doubt be similar but we have to remember that some of the the weapons from DW5 were used completely different to how many people now would use them.

Let's just say that for some reason Xu Huang ends up in the same category as Lu Bu. Do you honeslty think KOEI would give them identical movesets. We have to use some logic here people. Other than a few of the dao users and the mace users, I really don;t see many people running the risk of being "clones" (even though it is impossible to be complete clones on this anyway). Even for the guys who have dobule swords. Cao Pi went back to his old self, so we need more info on him to determine how he'll play. And as far as the screenshot that shows them doing the smae motion (this also applys to the rapier users) did you all not stop to think that it could easily just be their weapon switch attack. That would easily explain why it looks the same.

Oh and to the guy who said that Sima Zhao and xiahou DUn share some charge attack, could you please point that out to me, becuase I can't find it.

/rant
Yes I do agree that Guan Yu's Blue Dragon looks really cool, (doubt it is level one weapon though)
About the charged attacks: I pointed out in my post (4,5 paged ago), I included the time when that they performed their charged attack.
So you meant you can't find the trailer video ?
Edited by kd_1412, Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:01 pm.
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I, too, think Guan Yu's Blue Dragon looks the best in this game as well. Guan Yu is, afterall, my most favorite character, and the kwan dao is one of my most favorite weapons ever. I'm excited to see the Shu PV just to see it in action more, but that's two weeks from now, isn't it?
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:53 pm
All I know is, as soon as this game releases in Japan on the 10th, I am taking a vacation from this place, because some idiot will wind up posting spoilers or gameplay vids, and that will just ruin it then & there.

I'd rather have the game in my own hands & experience it my own way, then hear someone's opinion that may/may not turn me away from it altogether.

@Sum Gai Those are the only games you're getting? I'm getting...MvC 3, BulletStorm, Dragon Age II, Yakuza 4, Mortal Kombat, Dynasty Warriors 7, and possibly Crysis 2. Oh, and L.A. Noire.
WOW i totally agree with you. I know for a fatc as soon as i get on the forum LOADS of spoilers wil be on it,hoooowever, one of the moderators said something about not being allwed to do thats so *fingers crossed no spoilers*
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You know, nearly half of every page is made up of people all rallying together and saying how there's "so much rage" or "everyone's crying", but posts like these are actually more common than the complaining itself. At the slightest mention of criticism towards the game (or praise, both sides get hostile), before anyone even has a chance to start complaining, someone's already making a post about how there's so much of it.

You guys are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Instead of complaining, instead of complaining about how there's so much complaining (when in reality there's not actually that much, except for a couple big ordeals, like the Pang De bit), we discuss what's actually relevant, civilly.
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I'm worried, seeing that Guan Ping's sword is identical to Xiahou Ba's. There's slight color differences it seems, but I'd hate for them to actually get identical weapon models along with the moveset. I hope there'll be something to clear this up prior to the game's release.
Edited by Flyentology, Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:07 pm.
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kd_1412
Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:01 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:54 pm
Just a small note from a huge Guan Yu fan. Is it just me or does Blue Dragaon look freakin AWESOME in this one. this design is easily better than most of his uniqe/4th weapon designs IMO. The seriously made him BA in this. And here's to hoping that Guan Ping gets a BA sword this time as well. Can't wait for the Shu PV!

P.S. Gotta agree with one of the above posters (sorry I forgot your name buddy) but I doubt that everyone that shares a weapon will have the same exact moveset. Some characters are far too iconic for that. For example, both Cao Cao and Sun Jian are in the dao ategory. There has not been a single game where Cao Cao has fought even remotely like Sun Jian even if they did have similar weapons. Same goes for Guan Yu and Lu Meng. And I'm willing to bet it'll be the same for Zhang Fei and Wei Yan. Zhang Fei rarely used the smaller blade on his spear in DW6. So if his moveset is somewhat of a mesh between that and DW5 then he won't be using it much. Where as Wei Yan getting his old weapon back, fought using many spin moves and such so I doubt they'll really be fighting the same even if they have the same category. Or Zhao Yun, Jian Wei, and Ma CHao for that matter. There is no doubt in my mind that Ma Chao and Jiang Wei will indeed have some similarities, as they always have. however, the chances of Zhao Yun (the DW poster boy) having an identical moveset to them is slim to none. I think we are forgetting what we already know about the way the movesets are set up for some people. Yes there are certain people that will no doubt be similar but we have to remember that some of the the weapons from DW5 were used completely different to how many people now would use them.

Let's just say that for some reason Xu Huang ends up in the same category as Lu Bu. Do you honeslty think KOEI would give them identical movesets. We have to use some logic here people. Other than a few of the dao users and the mace users, I really don;t see many people running the risk of being "clones" (even though it is impossible to be complete clones on this anyway). Even for the guys who have dobule swords. Cao Pi went back to his old self, so we need more info on him to determine how he'll play. And as far as the screenshot that shows them doing the smae motion (this also applys to the rapier users) did you all not stop to think that it could easily just be their weapon switch attack. That would easily explain why it looks the same.

Oh and to the guy who said that Sima Zhao and xiahou DUn share some charge attack, could you please point that out to me, becuase I can't find it.

/rant
Yes I do agree that Guan Yu's Blue Dragon looks really cool, (doubt it is level one weapon though)
About the charged attacks: I pointed out in my post (4,5 paged ago), I included the time when that they performed their charged attack.
So you meant you can't find the trailer video ?
No I meant I can't find which charge attack looks identical. I already notied that the weapon switch moves are the same. But I'll check again. Afterall I easily could've just over looked it.

@Trevor: Yeah Guan Yu is my all time favorite KOEI character. He's been my favorite since DW2. And yeah I'm guessing the weapon he's using will be the equivalent to a 3rd weapon, Whcih gives me high hopes for his unique weapon.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:53 pm
All I know is, as soon as this game releases in Japan on the 10th, I am taking a vacation from this place, because some idiot will wind up posting spoilers or gameplay vids, and that will just ruin it then & there.

I'd rather have the game in my own hands & experience it my own way, then hear someone's opinion that may/may not turn me away from it altogether.

@Sum Gai Those are the only games you're getting? I'm getting...MvC 3, BulletStorm, Dragon Age II, Yakuza 4, Mortal Kombat, Dynasty Warriors 7, and possibly Crysis 2. Oh, and L.A. Noire.
I might get Mortal Kombat and Yakuza 4.

Thinking about get Total War: Shogun 2 too.
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MOG

Guan Yu uses the Pike Weapon Type.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:08 pm
MOG

Guan Yu uses the Pike Weapon Type.
Pike?i think it looks more like a halberd...that means its like lu meng's type right?
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:08 pm
MOG

Guan Yu uses the Pike Weapon Type.
Yeah I know. Like I said, I'm confident that at least Guan Yu will be completely unique. He never has foguht even remotely like Lu Meng and I don't think KOEI will start now. Guan Yu probably has one of the largest fanbases for the DW series and it'd be just a bad idea to start something like that now, with them trying to recover from the mayhem that DW6 caused. Seeing as how he was one of the few uniqe characters in that installment.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:11 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:08 pm
MOG

Guan Yu uses the Pike Weapon Type.
Pike?i think it looks more like a halberd...that means its like lu meng's type right?
It is a halberd, but it was classified under the pike category for movesets. Meaning, yes, he probably shares movesets with Lu Meng.
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MOG

Guan Yu uses the Pike Weapon Type.
Same icon -> same move-set
Shape can be different Ex: Lu meng:halberd, Quan Yu: Blue Dragon,...
Lubu is unique so far.


Arghh, Flyen said it first.
Edited by kd_1412, Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:17 pm.
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WAIT WAIT WAIT does that mean they still have same movesets!??!grrr
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Same icon -> same move-set

Is't confirmed ?
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:18 pm
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Same icon -> same move-set

Is't confirmed ?
Nah, Just me talking out of my a**.
But as far as we know then it probably is.
The next trailer come out today or tomorrow will clear it out.

But also Ex attack and DLC weapon can change the tide as well.
We'll see.
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Well considering it's supposedly been confirmed that characters that have weapons under the same category share similar movesets, I'm afraid Guan Yu is going to share the pike category with Lu Meng.

Unless, the people who are saying Zhao Yun, Zhang Fei, and Guan Yu have unique movesets are true, but I didn't believe them.
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:54 pm
Oh and to the guy who said that Sima Zhao and xiahou DUn share some charge attack, could you please point that out to me, becuase I can't find it.
I can, gladly!

First Picture

Now I admit, this one can be hard to see, but you can tell the general move is the same, seems like the C5 from past games. Can be found for Dun at 1:29 in the first PV, and for Zhao at 0:59 of the Jin PV.
Second Picture

Now, I really like this one, fancy myself a pretty good screencapper after this. Looks like the C3 from past games given the excessive swings. Both moves are identical. Dun's can be found at 1:23 of the first PV, Zhao's at 1:00

Essentially you can find the same charge attacks by simply watching both of their parts in each PV over and over until it really sinks in.

First PV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gULZK-tBasI
Second PV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCRNE8n43mk
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:22 pm
Well considering it's supposedly been confirmed that characters that have weapons under the same category share similar movesets, I'm afraid Guan Yu is going to share the pike category with Lu Meng.

Unless, the people who are saying Zhao Yun, Zhang Fei, and Guan Yu have unique movesets are true, but I didn't believe them.
I hate to believe it but yes its confirmed basically there's no real debating against it. Movesets are based on weapon type, and Guan Yu and Lu Meng use the same weapon type, therefor their movesets are from the same base.

If it was Halberd he'd be sharing with Lu Bu.
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Luxun_warrior96
Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:22 pm
Well considering it's supposedly been confirmed that characters that have weapons under the same category share similar movesets, I'm afraid Guan Yu is going to share the pike category with Lu Meng.

Unless, the people who are saying Zhao Yun, Zhang Fei, and Guan Yu have unique movesets are true, but I didn't believe them.
I hate to believe it but yes its confirmed basically there's no real debating against it. Movesets are based on weapon type, and Guan Yu and Lu Meng use the same weapon type, therefor their movesets are from the same base.

If it was Halberd he'd be sharing with Lu Bu.
:/ :crazy: :sad: thats really disappointing to know....im still buying it though i wanna find out for myself!i hope no idiot posts spoilers on the forum
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:24 pm
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Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:54 pm
Oh and to the guy who said that Sima Zhao and xiahou DUn share some charge attack, could you please point that out to me, becuase I can't find it.
I can, gladly!

First Picture

Now I admit, this one can be hard to see, but you can tell the general move is the same, seems like the C5 from past games. Can be found for Dun at 1:29 in the first PV, and for Zhao at 0:59 of the Jin PV.
Second Picture

Now, I really like this one, fancy myself a pretty good screencapper after this. Looks like the C3 from past games given the excessive swings. Both moves are identical. Dun's can be found at 1:23 of the first PV, Zhao's at 1:00

Essentially you can find the same charge attacks by simply watching both of their parts in each PV over and over until it really sinks in.

First PV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gULZK-tBasI
Second PV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCRNE8n43mk
Very good job. I have been pointed for awhile but lack in skill of photograph made my argument weak.
Thanks again Lambo :bowdown:
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