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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,040,022 Views)
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Something I came across on the EU Dynasty Warriors 7 website:

"Players can even change weapons while they're being attacked, resulting in some amazing counterattack moves."

So is there going to be a new countering system in the game? Because all of the other ones from the past games have quite frankly sucked =/ No offense to anyone who was a fan of the past countering system.
I AM EXTREMELY OFFENDED TREVOR.

The old counter system was pretty bad, that's for sure. That definitely sounds cool though, I'd love to see it in action.

Also, there've been times I ran into a mob and just put the controller down. In DW5, you'd get attacked maybe once every 15 seconds. I hope they've improved the AI a bit.
LMAO! You joker you :sly: OH! I do hope they improve the enemy's AI as well! Some people just stood there & took a beating and I was like... :blink: What kind of idiot just idly stands there & dies? Oh, that's right...The enemy soldiers in DW!
Try playing on Chaos mode O_O

I also hope for better AI but what I would like to see is if you play on a much harder mode, instead of them all doing MORE damage and spawning right before your eyes I would like to see much smarter AI but I know how hard it is to do good AI, especially in a game like this.
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ah speaking of Counterattack i wish the guard system from DW 6 will be back (where we avoid attack when guarding)
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Am I the only here that prefers the JP Voices? I always hope that Koei will add them along with subtitles, I so love the JP voices and am so used to them. I really don't want to hear Sun Ce calling his Father "Pops" :hmmm:
He hasn't done that since DW4, but believe it or not, it's more accurate to the Japanese script. In DW5-6, we get this stoic, serious Sun Ce who says "Father" all the time like he's all formal and crap, but in the Japanese voiceovers, Sun Ce talks very informally and even does call his father the same thing that Lupin calls Zenigata in Lupin III: "Pop"/"Pops"/"Old man."
Yes I know but it sounds much nicer to my ears ^_^ and to be honest the guys VA does not bother me as much as the girls, I swear I could not play Xing Cai as her voice bothered me soo much :(
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Since the high quality screens came out, we now know it isn't some *giant sword* when it was showing the weapon *mastery* on Dian Wei. It's spears :)
Show the picture you was talking about?
http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw7-screenshots.php one of the newer screenshots have the weapon icon and its a spear
Wrong picture.
Well actually not really wrong, I just pointed at the section although I should have pointed at the expect picture. So picky :(

This one http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/screenshots/dw7/168.jpg

@Reverie
Nope, in the screen shots Ma Chao has his spear, and an axe.



I'm curious here, what exactly are you trying to point out here? Your original post makes mention of the Giant Sword, which was spotted in some Ma Chao screen shot and not in a Dian Wei screen shot. Was that what confused you? Or am I completely missing some other issue?
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Like in this description, it's a counter system that you can activate when already being hit. Drained Musou in that one though.
Ah. I see. Well, I hope the system in DW7 is different then that. I mean, Tecmo helped make this game, and they are known for their amazing & extensive counters in the DoA series.

Correct me if I am wrong, though.
Tecmo helped making DW7? Wasn't it Ni-Oh not DW7?
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So do you guys think that Pang Tong will have a staff weapon like Zhang Jiao, or maybe something different?

@Bullet Bender Thanks for correcting me. I didn't know that.
Edited by TrevorxTravesty, Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:04 am.
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Like in this description, it's a counter system that you can activate when already being hit. Drained Musou in that one though.
Ah. I see. Well, I hope the system in DW7 is different then that. I mean, Tecmo helped make this game, and they are known for their amazing & extensive counters in the DoA series. Correct me if I am wrong, though.
Tecmo helped making DW7? Wasn't it Ni-Oh not DW7?
Tecmo and Koei are working on Ni-Oh together. Not DW7.
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So do you guys think that Pang Tong will have a staff weapon like Zhang Jiao, or maybe something different?

I really can't see Pang Tong with anything else. The magic staff suits his look. Maybe if Koei changes his look in DW7, but I personally don't see him with anything else.
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So do you guys think that Pang Tong will have a staff weapon like Zhang Jiao, or maybe something different?

I really can't see Pang Tong with anything else. The magic staff suits his look. Maybe if Koei changes his look in DW7, but I personally don't see him with anything else.
The magic staff does suit him, yes, but I'm sure there are other odd weapons that can suit him as well.

I have no clue what I'll use as his secondary weapon, though >.< Perhaps Ma Dai's brush, or Zhong Hui's flying swords. I want Pang Tong to have an all magic type weapon set.
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I don't think there will be anything only for a certain system, like playable charaters, but I do agree that the ps3 will most likley have slightly better graphics
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Most likely?... Haha, have you ever played a PS3? More like it WILL most defiantly have better graphics. And the Japanese originally designed the game for PS3, the only reason they have it for the XBox is because a lot of Westerners have them. No argue about that.

And what's with all the talk about Dong Bai? I doubt she'll be added for a long time, if ever. The whole thing about DW6Empires having her in as a "hint" is nonsense to me. However, I could always be wrong.
Come on, let's not act like one version will be vastly superior to the other. Let's not even act like the differences will be noticeable. The graphics will not be better to any extent that you'd be able to see. The only difference will probably be load times, as it is being optimized for the PS3.
Haha, are you serious? Its not like that. Sorry if I'm making people mad or something, but the PS3 has NOTICEABLY better graphics than the XBox 360. My friend owns one, and I've played games I own on my PS3 on his XBox and there are differences.
I am serious, and it is like that, and I'm not mad at all. I'm an Xbox owner who occasionally uses a PS3, but preferring PC over both, I'm completely unbiased in the whole Xbox vs. PS3 debacle. Fact is, in most multi-plat games the 360 version tends to both look and perform better. This would probably be a different case however, since DW7 is being optimized for the PS3.

Still, I highly doubt that there will be many, if any at all, graphical differences between the two versions. The only difference we'll probably see is load times, and overall performance. Graphical changes won't be noticeable at all.
....Unless the XBox supports Blue-Ray, or hosts something even better, it will never have better graphics. It's funny how you are refusing all facts to state a biased opinion. Oh well, I'm not getting into this conversation, you can "believe" that the XBox preforms better than the PS3, if you want to. It really doesn't mean anything to me.

Anyways, I keep thinking that it's tuesday night, when its really monday..... Ever since I heard that stupid rumor I've been really worrying if it's true or not, I just want the freaking scans to come out so I can move on with my life. Is Pang De in the game or not?! D:< Really, thats all I care about. Pang F***ING DE.

Sorry for being a bit angry haha, I've been watching these intense action movies all day.
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So do you guys think that Pang Tong will have a staff weapon like Zhang Jiao, or maybe something different?

I really can't see Pang Tong with anything else. The magic staff suits his look. Maybe if Koei changes his look in DW7, but I personally don't see him with anything else.
The magic staff does suit him, yes, but I'm sure there are other odd weapons that can suit him as well.

I have no clue what I'll use as his secondary weapon, though >.< Perhaps Ma Dai's brush, or Zhong Hui's flying swords. I want Pang Tong to have an all magic type weapon set.
Ma Dai's brush would look great as his secondary weapon.

The flying swords ehh. I'll wait until I play as Zhong Hui until I start to judge his weapon.

I would rather give him a feather fan above all else. I think it would suit him.
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I'd like to see the Giant Sword equipped to Pang Tong, haha... Imagine a little mystic man swinging a ginormous sword everywhere XD Haha, I'm probably gonna do funny looking combos for everyone. *Imagines Dong Zhuo using a folding fan or a whip*
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw7-screenshots.php one of the newer screenshots have the weapon icon and its a spear
Wrong picture.
Well actually not really wrong, I just pointed at the section although I should have pointed at the expect picture. So picky :(

This one http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/screenshots/dw7/168.jpg

@Reverie
Nope, in the screen shots Ma Chao has his spear, and an axe.



I'm curious here, what exactly are you trying to point out here? Your original post makes mention of the Giant Sword, which was spotted in some Ma Chao screen shot and not in a Dian Wei screen shot. Was that what confused you? Or am I completely missing some other issue?
Which Ma Chao screen shot? The only three I currently see have him wielrding his spear (EX) and an axe as a secondary o.o Am I missing something here? I'm really confused o.o :kurokan:


Edited by Blaziruku, Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:37 am.
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LOL Imagine Pang Tong using Xu Zhu's club? NO! Guo Huai! xD Since he is sickly lol He coughs every time he tries to lift it up. And imagine Pang Tong with Zhang He's claws :O
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LOL Imagine Pang Tong using Xu Zhu's club? NO! Guo Huai! xD Since he is sickly lol He coughs every time he tries to lift it up. And imagine Pang Tong with Zhang He's claws :O
Diao Qiao with Xu Zhu's club if possible. EPIC SWING!

@BluueJay

Actually to bring back something and possibly offtopic, the XBOX does have slight performance enhancements usually because almost every multiplatform game is developed on the xbox BEFORE being ported to the PS3, for DW7, I'm not sure, but it has slight improvements in graphcis here and there, not to mention a difference in lighting.

This is coming from a user who owns a PS3, WII, and PC, no xbox, just play it sometimes at a buddy. Although if you use the full capacity of the PS3, psosibly better gfx (Uncharted 2) Really I don't care too much for the graphics, but it's just there for the extra points and the awesome eye candy, I'm pretty sure DW will have at least average graphics, that will be fine as long as I get to hack and slash all the peons to hell with others online or a splitscreen buddy :D
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Hahaha, yeah... Defiantly playing him with either the Giant Sword, Axe, Club, Claws, or Chakrams.
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deep
Come on, let's not act like one version will be vastly superior to the other. Let's not even act like the differences will be noticeable. The graphics will not be better to any extent that you'd be able to see. The only difference will probably be load times, as it is being optimized for the PS3.
Haha, are you serious? Its not like that. Sorry if I'm making people mad or something, but the PS3 has NOTICEABLY better graphics than the XBox 360. My friend owns one, and I've played games I own on my PS3 on his XBox and there are differences.
I am serious, and it is like that, and I'm not mad at all. I'm an Xbox owner who occasionally uses a PS3, but preferring PC over both, I'm completely unbiased in the whole Xbox vs. PS3 debacle. Fact is, in most multi-plat games the 360 version tends to both look and perform better. This would probably be a different case however, since DW7 is being optimized for the PS3.

Still, I highly doubt that there will be many, if any at all, graphical differences between the two versions. The only difference we'll probably see is load times, and overall performance. Graphical changes won't be noticeable at all.
....Unless the XBox supports Blue-Ray, or hosts something even better, it will never have better graphics. It's funny how you are refusing all facts to state a biased opinion. Oh well, I'm not getting into this conversation, you can "believe" that the XBox preforms better than the PS3, if you want to. It really doesn't mean anything to me.

Anyways, I keep thinking that it's tuesday night, when its really monday..... Ever since I heard that stupid rumor I've been really worrying if it's true or not, I just want the freaking scans to come out so I can move on with my life. Is Pang De in the game or not?! D:< Really, thats all I care about. Pang F***ING DE.

Sorry for being a bit angry haha, I've been watching these intense action movies all day.
This'll be my last post here regarding this so that it doesn't take up thread space, so if you wish to continue this (I don't mean that in any aggressive way by the way), you can PM me. You seem bent on believing what you do though, so just please do a bit of research first if you do.

Blu-Ray does not magically make the graphics better. It just holds more space. Yes, that means more space for higher-res textures, but that extra space is almost never utilized. Except in FFXIII, but that was mostly for 1080p cutscenes as opposed to the 360's 720p. Blu-Ray games load slower than DVD too, by the way. Not sure what drives they use nowadays, but the fat PS3's use a 2x BD drive, while the 360 uses a 12x DVD drive.

Also, you can't see me give you a backing on my opinion of consoles and how I'm unbiased, and then say I'm biased without any further clarification (actually, that whole sentence was filled with irony). That's not how debates work.

I share your concern for Pang De though, because **** yeah, Pang De. I feel he missed a great shot at the spotlight in DW5, and the opportunities even greater now. I suppose by tomorrow night, we might know the credibility of that rumor list.
Edited by Flyentology, Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:44 am.
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Quoting limited to 5 levels deephttp://koeiwarriors.co.uk/dw7-screenshots.php one of the newer screenshots have the weapon icon and its a spear
Wrong picture.
Well actually not really wrong, I just pointed at the section although I should have pointed at the expect picture. So picky :(

This one http://koeiwarriors.co.uk/screenshots/dw7/168.jpg

@Reverie
Nope, in the screen shots Ma Chao has his spear, and an axe.



I'm curious here, what exactly are you trying to point out here? Your original post makes mention of the Giant Sword, which was spotted in some Ma Chao screen shot and not in a Dian Wei screen shot. Was that what confused you? Or am I completely missing some other issue?
Which Ma Chao screen shot? The only three I currently see have him wielrding his spear (EX) and an axe as a secondary o.o Am I missing something here? I'm really confused o.o :kurokan:


I think I know which screen they're referring too. The ones where they show the Attack up items and all that. They have Ma Chao as the selected character and he has the broadsword as his secondary weapon. They're not on this site though which is why you probably haven't seen them.
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I intend to let characters use random weapons that don't even make sense for them. Well, I'll do that after I play the game seriously. But...I'm thinking Dian Wei with Ma Dai's brush, Huang Zhong with a bo staff (actually, that sounds pretty epic!), Yue Ying with Cao Ren's chain mace, Da Qiao with Sun Ce's tonfas, Zhu Rong with Ding Feng's gauntlets...God, the possibilities are endless!
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I intend to let characters use random weapons that don't even make sense for them. Well, I'll do that after I play the game seriously. But...I'm thinking Dian Wei with Ma Dai's brush, Huang Zhong with a bo staff (actually, that sounds pretty epic!), Yue Ying with Cao Ren's chain mace, Da Qiao with Sun Ce's tonfas, Zhu Rong with Ding Feng's gauntlets...God, the possibilities are endless!
I'll do the obvious silly ones first, like Deng Ai with the Qiao fans, the Qiaos with the drill spear, Cao Ren with the paint brush, etc.

I remember having fun making tiny CAW females with Meng Huo's gauntlets. Got even better with DW6:E when Meng Huo got an even bigger more ridiculous weapon.
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@ Flyentology and Blaziruku: Yes I understand your points, and accept them as the truth, however I believe, and I'm saying this with experience playing XBoxes, that PS3's are better to play games on than XBoxes if I had to choose between the two.

The reason is that Blue-Ray, with its capabilities improves the graphics, making them clearer and better looking overall. I also think that the loading slower in Blue-Ray stuff is true but hardly there, I don't notice it at all.

The thing is that, if you're comparing overall capabilities and performances of the XBox and PS3, the PS3 would win, however with DW7, idk which is better. I only assume that the PS3 would be a better choice since the creators of the game, and many many fans of the series, designed originally for this game to be PS3 exclusive, although they made it for the XBox for westerners.
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I intend to let characters use random weapons that don't even make sense for them. Well, I'll do that after I play the game seriously. But...I'm thinking Dian Wei with Ma Dai's brush, Huang Zhong with a bo staff (actually, that sounds pretty epic!), Yue Ying with Cao Ren's chain mace, Da Qiao with Sun Ce's tonfas, Zhu Rong with Ding Feng's gauntlets...God, the possibilities are endless!
I'll do the obvious silly ones first, like Deng Ai with the Qiao fans, the Qiaos with the drill spear, Cao Ren with the paint brush, etc.

I remember having fun making tiny CAW females with Meng Huo's gauntlets. Got even better with DW6:E when Meng Huo got an even bigger more ridiculous weapon.
LOL I can imagine Xiao Qiao using Xu Zhu's club, and when she goes to lift it, she falls over xD
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Hahaha, yeah... Defiantly playing him with either the Giant Sword, Axe, Club, Claws, or Chakrams.
Whenever I hear about the Great Sword, I'll always think of Fu Xi from DW3, which is probably my favorite DW game next to DW2. If only CAW was in DW7... well if DW7 sells good, maybe they'll bring it back for the expansion title.

Could never find any fanart on the older DW characters either...

Anyways, the weapon system is looking solid. This game will keep me procrastinating my college homework for sure upon its release! :D

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Please, enlighten me. I tend to see 98% of videogames that are made have fictional characters in it.
When it comes to History, fiction is never justifiable. Bao and Suo are hardly important in any of the novels. Only in that one Seraphil mentioned. Anyway, we could have a plethora of adds before them. Wang Ping, Ma Yun Lu herself, Fa Zheng, Zhang Yi, even Liu Shan and Liao Hua could be better
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So you're saying just because you read the novel, you're completely right about everything? Completely right about who is to be added? Just because Koei took things from the novel YOU read, doesn't mean that there are going to do everything Luo based. Did you not read the part about where I said that Koei is not going a 100% by the book? You're only going to see footnotes of the novel in DW
Are you trying to troll me? Seriously, don't you know the democratical right of Freedom of Speech, a right that you can try, but won't suppress? I never said I'm completely right. Before arguing with me, learn how to interpret texts. Also, I never read any novel. I base myself on history
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Isn't it obvious? It's because they like them; could be even fan related as well.
Oh, yes, I heard many people here saying: "OMG, I, ze beztest KOEI fan, wantz Guan Suo and Bao Sanniang" If they tried to please their fans, they most likely failed, then
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And how do you know if Ma Yunlu won't get portrayed poorly? Maybe even worse than Bao; kind of like what happened to Xing in DW5.
= Logical straw. First, I never defended Xing Cai. Second, I said I rather have Ma Yunlu then Bao. It doesn't mean I want Ma Yunlu. Again, you misread something there. Also, risks must be taken in life and even in game development
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I never said I wanted to avoid conflict, it's because you have nothing to back up your opinions about both Suo AND Bao; seeing that you haven't even read about them or seen how is Koei portraying their storyline; I'm only stating that you should hold your judgements until you actually see them not doing anything with the storyline. Plus, it wouldn't benefit me taking any advice from you; seeing as how close-minded you are.
Touché. I back myself up with history, and I'm not the one here trying to interfere with people's right of Freedom of Speech. You're mind isn't even closed, because it was never open. Really, friend, tell me where in History do Guan Suo and Bao Sanniang appear. He is essential, like Seraphil and others said, in one novel. The Era has lots of fictional novels, and in most of them, they're not mentioned
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I dislike old characters and both Cheng Pu and Liao Hua have chances of being old.
Long life doesn't = old age. Sun Quan and Lu Xun are dead proof of that. Jia Xu is aswell. So this = Fallacy
Wow. You still continue to say that I'm trying to suppress your . . . freedom of speech? If you're basing your information off of history, then I can tell you that playing DW will only make you one unhappy camper. Have you read any encyclopedias in the musou games? 97% of them are fictional. If having a certain name for you is THAT important, then you should your rethink games, you'll only set yourself up for dissappoint.

The fact that you're only taking portions of my replies, it's only taking this argument in circles. I would rather discontinue this debate. Although I must say, I apologize for thinking you actually read the novel. ^_^
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@ Flyentology and Blaziruku: Yes I understand your points, and accept them as the truth, however I believe, and I'm saying this with experience playing XBoxes, that PS3's are better to play games on than XBoxes if I had to choose between the two.

The reason is that Blue-Ray, with its capabilities improves the graphics, making them clearer and better looking overall. I also think that the loading slower in Blue-Ray stuff is true but hardly there, I don't notice it at all.

The thing is that, if you're comparing overall capabilities and performances of the XBox and PS3, the PS3 would win, however with DW7, idk which is better. I only assume that the PS3 would be a better choice since the creators of the game, and many many fans of the series, designed originally for this game to be PS3 exclusive, although they made it for the XBox for westerners.
Oh definitely, I don't doubt DW7 will probably perform a bit better on the PS3, since that's the console of choice where they're developing, and where most of their fanbase is. I'm not sure, but isn't it only releasing on PS3 in Japan? I'm curious to see how much a difference there will be, and especially curious how far they're willing to push the limits of their new engine.
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