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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,040,017 Views)
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ZhugeJebus
Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:58 pm
But I want half naked Guan Suo. I want an actual beefcake. Gang Ning is not enough.
Maybe he will be shirtless, but I want at least he has pants. :mellow:
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Fantaji
Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:26 pm
The addition of Liu Shan was somehow... inevitable.
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Hopefully these aren't the last adds. I can still find myself to forgive Koei if they reveal more late era character. You know... Like Wen Yang.


"Forgive Koei"? Isn't that a bit too hard, just beacuse of one (or maybe 2, anyhow, still a very good game so far) character, who was "somehow inevitable" like above mentioned, and is not hated by everyone here, even wished? Finally Koei made him (still not official). Now, just let him be, and amuse yourself with the other new (countless) characters in DW7.
Live and let live.
And about the late era characters, i would see them too. Especially Wen Yang for Jin. But it seems, we will have to wait for DW8. Having a good reason to wait for that one.

@ Bamboo: Agreed about nearly all points on your last post.
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I've always liked Guan Suo's design in the ROTK portraits. Maybe they'll base his design more on him. If anybody is able to, please post his picture!
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:44 pm
There is that argument that Jiang Wei's endeavors pretty much did suck the Shu resources dry, while the Shu people themselves just hated the war.

So...maybe Liu Chan was in the right? Let's face it people, war can be cool if it's dramatized that way, but whatever happened to "war is hell"? Do we just forget about that?
Most of the blame must be shifted to his advisor Huang Hao I guess.
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Fantaji
Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:45 pm
Personally, I was at the beginning against the idea of adding Guan Suo. Well, okay, it's a fictional character, but if they make a good character, why not. I just hope that he will not have half naked like Bao. :mellow:
That would actually be kinda funny, if it was a kinda running joke. Like they both run around the battlefields half naked xD
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:50 pm
Xalfrea
Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:44 pm
There is that argument that Jiang Wei's endeavors pretty much did suck the Shu resources dry, while the Shu people themselves just hated the war. So...maybe Liu Chan was in the right? Let's face it people, war can be cool if it's dramatized that way, but whatever happened to "war is hell"? Do we just forget about that?
Yeah, Jiang Wei kept fighting against Jin until Shu collapsed! Now, because of his supposed courage and perseverance, they so him as a hero. And because Liu Chan/Shan (which one was it?) disliked the war and surrendered, he is seen as a coward or doesn't care about his kingdom! Very unfair!
You may have a point , but I still think it's unfair if liu chan just gave up his father kingdom easily ~! :huh: His father and others tried so hard and they gone through so much troubles ,,,etc.! :(

So ,to me ^_^ , Jiang Wei at least tried ,,, and I think that's what matters -_-

Again ,it is just my opinion ~^^
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ahhh the constant argument about Chan,Suo and Bao being fictional...

To be honest, i dont really care, im happy koei adds new characters to make this series fresh and new. Then again, this is my opinion, no hard feelings -_-
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Mie Mie
Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:11 pm
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:50 pm
Xalfrea
Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:44 pm
There is that argument that Jiang Wei's endeavors pretty much did suck the Shu resources dry, while the Shu people themselves just hated the war. So...maybe Liu Chan was in the right? Let's face it people, war can be cool if it's dramatized that way, but whatever happened to "war is hell"? Do we just forget about that?
Yeah, Jiang Wei kept fighting against Jin until Shu collapsed! Now, because of his supposed courage and perseverance, they so him as a hero. And because Liu Chan/Shan (which one was it?) disliked the war and surrendered, he is seen as a coward or doesn't care about his kingdom! Very unfair!
You may have a point , but I still think it's unfair if liu chan just gave up his father kingdom easily ~! :huh: His father and others tried so hard and they gone through so much troubles ,,,etc.! :( So ,to me ^_^ , Jiang Wei at least tried ,,, and I think that's what matters -_- Again ,it is just my opinion ~^^ ^_^
I realize it's your opinion and I respect it.

Now, what I was trying to say was that Jiang Wei should've stopped when he realized he couldn't win. I mean, I know he's the man who fought against the impossible and that's how he's famous! Liu Chan, now this I don't know for sure, but I think he also persevered, but he had some sense and realized he couldn't win, so he surrendered, Jiang Wei knowingly fought an inevitably losing battle until his kingdom fell! Maybe both we're right somehow, but in my eyes, I think Liu Chan did the right thing. While Jiang Wei did a noble thing, but kinda naive.
Again, just my opinion. I don't think I should write that it's my opinion. People should be able to figure that out. But I know that if I don't a war is gonna start so... I'm rambling, bye!!
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Who the hell wants Guan Suo half naked? That's just odd.

We already know he'll join the pathetic mass of pretty boy characters, but at the very least can we have one that doesn't look like a complete tool? I'm crossing my fingers for a handsome Zhao Yun type, a good looking guy but with armor and normal hair that isn't long and styled like 16 year old pop artists of the 21st century.

I do understand that I'm pretty much doomed to be upset though.

However, in terms of Liu Chan and the extended period making Jiang Wei more meaningful, I really think they can make the fall of Shu epic. Liu Chan can be a character that is obsessed with living up to the shadow his heroic father cast, and his surrender ultimately is for the people, and he can have a speech about how it's what his father would have done.

As for Jiang Wei, cast him in a sort of bad light in terms of his incompetence (he was a good commander, but even at their greatest strength Shu was nothing compared to Wei in the long run, which is why they could never take Chang An). Make Jiang Wei a guy who, like Liu Chan, is obsessed with filling the shoes of his predecessor. Jiang Wei should be gun-ho on the Northern Campaign, which ultimately dries out Shu's resources and leads to Chan's surrender.
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jsully16
Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:30 pm
Who the hell wants Guan Suo half naked? That's just odd. We already know he'll join the pathetic mass of pretty boy characters, but at the very least can we have one that doesn't look like a complete tool? I'm crossing my fingers for a handsome Zhao Yun type, a good looking guy but with armor and normal hair that isn't long and styled like 16 year old pop artists of the 21st century. I do understand that I'm pretty much doomed to be upset though. However, in terms of Liu Chan and the extended period making Jiang Wei more meaningful, I really think they can make the fall of Shu epic. Liu Chan can be a character that is obsessed with living up to the shadow his heroic father cast, and his surrender ultimately is for the people, and he can have a speech about how it's what his father would have done. As for Jiang Wei, cast him in a sort of bad light in terms of his incompetence (he was a good commander, but even at their greatest strength Shu was nothing compared to Wei in the long run, which is why they could never take Chang An). Make Jiang Wei a guy who, like Liu Chan, is obsessed with filling the shoes of his predecessor. Jiang Wei should be gun-ho on the Northern Campaign, which ultimately dries out Shu's resources and leads to Chan's surrender.
Great ideas! I really love the idea that both are trying to live up to their predecessors but they failed nonetheless! I think giving Jiang Wei a heroic death would be awesome too. Where he states that he has fought against all odds, then him and a small army charge into a Wei (Jin?) force and they all die!
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hate him or not, the addition of liu chan is great (if the rumor is true), considering how important he is to the story.
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when will these scans be up?
today/tommorow?
Edited by xDaQiaox, Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:40 pm.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:39 pm
when will these scans be up?
today/tommorow?
Maybe today or tomorrow.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:39 pm
when will these scans be up? today/tommorow?
Maybe today or tomorrow.
I've been waiting the whole day for the scans to show up! Keep refreshing KW main page to see the updates, but none so far! I'm dying! :crazy: Anyway, I'm thinking they'll be revealed when I go to sleep, because Koei hates me! :hehe:
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when will these scans be up?
today/tommorow?
Maybe today or tomorrow.
ok thanks :D
Im excited for xiaoqiao
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I think Liu Bei should sing in Guan Yu's funeral.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:43 pm
I think Liu Bei should sing in Guan Yu's funeral.
I think that would be kinda weird
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:43 pm
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:40 pm
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:39 pm
when will these scans be up? today/tommorow?
Maybe today or tomorrow.
I've been waiting the whole day for the scans to show up! Keep refreshing KW main page to see the updates, but none so far! I'm dying! :crazy: Anyway, I'm thinking they'll be revealed when I go to sleep, because Koei hates me! :hehe:
Don't die now.
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Anybody else dying to see the scans soon?
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Guys, the scans won't be up now or anytime soon. It's Wednesday, 1:47 AM in Tokyo, and the scans usually don't show up until sometime in the afternoon.

Have patience.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:43 pm
I think Liu Bei should sing in Guan Yu's funeral.
I think that would be kinda weird
Yes, Zhang Fei would be better. Imagine him singing Opera. No j/k but why does no one sing in DW.
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I think Liu Chan will be FAT and has a beard. :beard:
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jsully16
Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:30 pm
As for Jiang Wei, cast him in a sort of bad light in terms of his incompetence (he was a good commander, but even at their greatest strength Shu was nothing compared to Wei in the long run, which is why they could never take Chang An). Make Jiang Wei a guy who, like Liu Chan, is obsessed with filling the shoes of his predecessor. Jiang Wei should be gun-ho on the Northern Campaign, which ultimately dries out Shu's resources and leads to Chan's surrender.
Does anyone else think that Jiang Wei should be like Yukimura of SW, plot-wise? I mean he should die like Yukimura in Osaka. :kurokan:
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I actually like Liu Shan ;)
He saved the people, instead of chasing their own crazy ambition....
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:48 pm
Guys, the scans won't be up now or anytime soon. It's Wednesday, 1:47 AM in Tokyo, and the scans usually don't show up until sometime in the afternoon.

Have patience.
In fact it could be any time from now the scans show up, since there are other stuff from this weeks Famitsu already floating around teh interwebz... I.E Tekken Tag 2.
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