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Dynasty Warriors 7 [v4]; READ the first post before posting.
Topic Started: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 am (1,039,994 Views)
Sagittarius
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私に触るな
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Umm, how about you stop using the terms Lolicon and Loli altogether? Xiao Qiao is a teenage girl, no need to use creepy terminology from anime porn when talking about her.
It's kinda weird..
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Tessen
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Regardless of the "con" that/it has nothing to do with lolita.

@Sag: You. are. not. our. boss. kthx.
Edited by Tessen, Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:29 am.
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ChibiGingi
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Seraphil
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:23 am
Joetri10
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:17 am
I wouldnt argue with Seraphil on this one, i already have lol... Hes views are rather different then ones most people have there mind set on... Im not sure whats right...
I'm stating the origin of the term as it is actual used in proper context.

Xiao Qiao = loli
Guy who loves Xiao Qiao = lolicon
So... Zhou Yu IS lolicon, then?

*is so freakin' confused*
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Ranger Strider
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LolitaMajin
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:24 am
Xiuzhao
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:07 am
LolitaMajin
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:01 am
Liu Bei
I really hate him. Too elegant and too handsome for a man name Liu Bei.
Wow, it's been a while since I've seen someone hating on Liu Bei with all the Liu Shan hating going around; you took me by surprise there! So tell me, why do you hate Liu Bei? :uh:


I think Liu Bei is native leader that should be more simple but nice like his DW3/4 appearance. Handsome Liu Bei with no mustache made him more heroic but too far from being of real Liu Bei.

In fact. Koei still cheer up Shu to be Angelic good side royalty heavenly invicible heroes of DW series. It's too much. I boring it's too much for Shu. :meantongue:
Well even in the book Shu was portrayed as the good guys and Wei the bad guys so what Koei is doing makes sense. Wu was just sorta neutral thus why they are not portrayed either way. Jin well there just later Wei so yeah...
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tenka
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This topic is getting a biiit ridiculous. It's been that way since the start.

Anyway, I wonder if they'll make Liu Chan where people like him personality wise? I mean, I don't hate him, I just like to pick on him, so I hope he can be a respectable character-- there's no character I hate... not even Dian Wei. Maybe.
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melange
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Sagittarius
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:29 am
Umm, how about you stop using the terms Lolicon and Loli altogether? Xiao Qiao is a teenage girl, no need to use creepy terminology from anime porn when talking about her.
It's kinda weird..
unfortunately you have a mistaken assumption of anime. loli and lolicon aren't just terms used for 'porn'.
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Yang Xiu
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I always thought the word 'loli' had some derision from the word 'lolipop'. Like... she's a little kid who likes lolipops, so she's a "loli"... oops.

Anyways..

Zee Huge: Looks pretty typical. Good, I suppose. I think if you jumbled his costumes in 5-7 I would be unable to describe them without them all sounding the same.

Liu Bei: Still missing that facial hair.

Liu Chan: Ha ha... about what I expected. He certainly looks like blundering idiot-emperor type. I imagine him constantly screaming "SAAAAVE MEEEE XING CAI!" like the Professor from Mischief Makers.

Zhang He: Look so damn similar to DW3. A little simple, but anything is better than that atrocious DW6 abomination.

Xiao Qiao: I so don't care about this character... I wouldn't have noticed her costume was any different unless someone told me.

Dong Zhuo: I'm liking it... the arrogantly gaudy hat is wonderful.

Xiahou Bieber: Meh... discussed this at length already.
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LolitaMajin
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:24 am
Xiuzhao
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:07 am
LolitaMajin
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:01 am
Liu Bei
I really hate him. Too elegant and too handsome for a man name Liu Bei.
Wow, it's been a while since I've seen someone hating on Liu Bei with all the Liu Shan hating going around; you took me by surprise there! So tell me, why do you hate Liu Bei? :uh:


I think Liu Bei is native leader that should be more simple but nice like his DW3/4 appearance. Handsome Liu Bei with no mustache made him more heroic but too far from being of real Liu Bei.

In fact. Koei still cheer up Shu to be Angelic good side royalty heavenly invicible heroes of DW series. It's too much. I boring it's too much for Shu. :meantongue:
I had a feeling that's what you meant by elegant and handsome. I jumped the gun yet again, sorry about that.

And I agree with your last paragraph. Shu does need some darker personalities. I definitely think Jiang Wei can and should be one of them, and I suppose Koei are determined to put Wei Yan in that group too.
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I personally have nothing against Liu Bei look. It's simply the best of his designs. Delighted that he has still not his mustache, I did not like. I think now he really Shu leader. :heart:
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saner
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Yay! Liu Chan is a nice addition!

Oh yes! Xiao Qiao! Finally! The Qiao sisters are reunited at last! Will be a popular online co-op team for sure! :XD
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SRS
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*wallbang*

Please stop calling it anime porn when it's not. That's like saying the same about the term doujin.

tessen, you are talking about lolita fashion. It is not the same as lolita itself. Do a simple google search on all of these terms and you should find the answer to your confusion.

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Yes, he is.
Edited by SRS, Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:41 am.
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Reverie
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I noticed that out of all the leaders cao cao, zhuge liang, sima yi, cao pi, and i believe sun jian all never changed like sun quan and liu bei did far as facial features go, drastic features, I'm talking about the three kingdom leaders, cause th other forces you deffinately changed as well.


*Gets ice for Seraphil* Don't kill yourself lol.
Edited by Reverie, Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:44 am.
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RujiAso
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Lolita is from an old russian book about a middle aged dude getting dirty with a 12 yr old, the term became used for "young girls" or at least, "Young looking girls", baby faces, flat chests, etc. Lolita fashion is just frilly and girlish, GOTHIC lolita is the black lace gothic and somewhat victorian styling

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_fashion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_lolita#Gothic_Lolita

Lolicon is a term used to describe someone who is "into" the fetishism of lolis, which is a shortform of lolita, which is describing underage girls.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon

I have a friend into gothic lolita stuff, so i know this. We've gone to anime conventions with Lolita fashion panels where my friend was disappointed that it was normal lolita fashion and not gothic lolita fashion.

Lolicon = pedo loli = lolita = underage girl

Also ephebophilia is another term i've had to come across that is for teenagers, yet still somewhat underage (14-16 or so)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophile

So Zhou Yu is an ephebophile. :wacko:


Great, now i know all this wierd crap due to my friends. I'm into catgirls, darnit, I have enough to worry about with the line from catgirl to furry. <_< :meantongue:
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Nghet
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Tazzmanian, your salary is mine now
And Xiao Qiao is using...*Scream !* My cloningdar is red !
Edited by Nghet, Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:46 am.
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Ranger Strider
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:23 am
QZW
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:21 am
This may be random but did Zhuge Liang ever have a child?
He had a son, Zhuge Zhan both him and his own son defended Cheng Du from Deng Ai's invasion while Jiang Wei dealt with Zhong Hui's, but both Zhuge Liang's son and grandson died in vain.
That sucks talk about family legacy going down the drain.
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Xiuzhao
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:35 am
LolitaMajin
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:24 am
Xiuzhao
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:07 am
LolitaMajin
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:01 am
Liu Bei
I really hate him. Too elegant and too handsome for a man name Liu Bei.
Wow, it's been a while since I've seen someone hating on Liu Bei with all the Liu Shan hating going around; you took me by surprise there! So tell me, why do you hate Liu Bei? :uh:


I think Liu Bei is native leader that should be more simple but nice like his DW3/4 appearance. Handsome Liu Bei with no mustache made him more heroic but too far from being of real Liu Bei.

In fact. Koei still cheer up Shu to be Angelic good side royalty heavenly invicible heroes of DW series. It's too much. I boring it's too much for Shu. :meantongue:
I had a feeling that's what you meant by elegant and handsome. I jumped the gun yet again, sorry about that.

And I agree with your last paragraph. Shu does need some darker personalities. I definitely think Jiang Wei can and should be one of them, and I suppose Koei are determined to put Wei Yan in that group too.
Zhuge Liang too. He kills so many people more than Cao Cao.
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Well, Liu Chan has managed to force me to finally have respect for Liu Bei. Bei looks like a War God by comparison. Chan is by far my least favorite look for any of the new characters and possibly all of the returning ones as well.
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Nghet
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:43 am
Tazzmanian, your salary is mine now
And Xiao Qiao is using...*Scream !* My cloningdar is red !
Uh how about a big HECK NO and beside I never shook hands with anybody so I don't nobody jack
and your clonedar is broken
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Fantaji
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:27 am
air_mac
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:26 am
No WU?
Xiao Qiao is a character from Wu.
Oh I forgot, that orange thing made me forget she's a Wu member..
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They all look pretty good. I'm just happy Zhang He doesn't have his heels like in DW6. Debate this all you like, but in my sincere opinion...I just hate how they keep making Xiao Qiao look younger and younger.

You can defend her young age by talking about historical accuracies all you like but at the same time you'd have to also explain how Zhuge Liang's fan has lasers shooting out of it in previous games. Just won't add up! :hehe:

Still I'm excited to get this-just a few more months! XD
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Tazzmanian
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:53 am
Nghet
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:43 am
Tazzmanian, your salary is mine now
And Xiao Qiao is using...*Scream !* My cloningdar is red !
Uh how about a big HECK NO and beside I never shook hands with anybody so I don't nobody jack
and your clonedar is broken
Dude, it's not like i'm gonna track you down and beat the money out of you :kurokan:
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Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:44 am
And I agree with your last paragraph. Shu does need some darker personalities. I definitely think Jiang Wei can and should be one of them, and I suppose Koei are determined to put Wei Yan in that group too.
Zhuge Liang too. He kills so many people more than Cao Cao.[/quote]I don't think I agree with you on that. Cao Cao massacred tens of thousands of innocent people all because he was angry and they just happened to have lived in a particular province. And he also buried alive tens of thousands of POWs after Guan Du. Cao Cao was incredibly ruthless, on a scale far beyond Zhuge Liang.
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Liu Chan design is amazing, he's my new fav character now (x i wonder if koei would add Cao Rui, Cao Fang, Mao or Huan since they are Wei's last leaders..
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Nghet
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 am
Tazzmanian
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:53 am
Nghet
Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:43 am
Tazzmanian, your salary is mine now
And Xiao Qiao is using...*Scream !* My cloningdar is red !
Uh how about a big HECK NO and beside I never shook hands with anybody so I don't nobody jack
and your clonedar is broken
Dude, it's not like i'm gonna track you down and beat the money out of you :kurokan:
I think he meant that your cloningdar is broken as in your detection of clones is being transmitted wrong through that radar lol. Cause DW 7 won't have clones like DW 6... the closest is like DW 2-5 and the funny thing is the qiaos had the same weapons DW 2-5 ha ha.
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I'm still really confused about Xiao Qiao's hair. What the heck is that orange bar on her head? I'm guessing it's supposed to look like Da Qiao's red cap....but her overall design is horrible. It's way too orange and needs more color, but her upper outfit is awesome! I like it....please Koei, give her her double fans back.
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