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Most Wanted Additions: Day Two, Wei
Topic Started: Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:23 am (6,035 Views)
Tazzikaze
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I voted again for other and for other I chose

Du Xi-He met Cao Cao in Xie, Xianchang while Cao Cao was escorting Emperor Xian to Xuchang. He would also have a battle with Liu Biao (could serve as a Gaiden Stage) He joined Cao Cao with Zhang Yao. He had Xu You arrested for multiple accounts of disrepect toward Cao Cao(need clarification) He was nominated by Xun Yu and Zhang Yao.
He served Cao Cao in his campaign against Zhang Lu at Yang Ping Gate and Ma Chao at Ji Castle. At Mt. Ding Jun he served under Xiahou Yuan until he was killed by Huang Zhong, later he and Guo Huai decided to nominate Zhang He to act as Commander. He later joined Cao Cao in his last attempt to hold Han Zhong.
He was later promoted under Cao Pi to a High rank due to him having a strong friendship with him. He was said to have a grudge against Xiahou Shang. In his later years he would serve as a strategist to Cao Rui and Sima Yi
Edited by Tazzikaze, Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:27 am.
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I voted for Yu Jin, Yue Jin, and Guo Jia!
I felt like Guo Jia actually did a lot and would have been second to Jia Xu as the replacement strategist for Wei after Sima Yi was moved. I love that they picked Jia Xu, and I don't expect Guo Jia this game, but hopefully DW8!
Yu Jin would broaden Pang De's story a lot if he was added! He did a lot at Fan Castle (I think) and was one of the Five Generals of Wei along with Yue Jin, who I think is just as important as the former.
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Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:22 pm
When a third woman will be added to Wei, which would be most interesting for you?

- Lady Bian.
- Guo Nüwang.
- Wang Yi.
- Xin Xianying.
- Other (specify).

It's just to know your various opinions on this. ^_^
Lady Bian!

Lady Bian: Would help explore Cao Cao further, has relations, a good personality and past, a potentially intresting relationship with her husband. Also adds a mature lady.

Guo Nuwang: Harmed by koei making Zhen Ji a ice queen and the tale between Guo and Zhen needs to be very carefully balanced between the two. Could be a great and tragic love triangle if done properly.

Wang Yi: A woman who did fight so would have some protection from the usual complaints. Offers Wei a goodie and someone with strong anti Ma Chao/Qiang connections to go with the underutilized Ma Chao. Husband extremely unlikely to be added which isn't a problem, lack of relationships is. Sold add, tale has to be turned down I suspect

Xin Xianying: I always spell it wrong. Long life, would add a Wei strategist, plenty of relations and a personality. Think it would be an inventive, and enjoyable, way to fill that second strategist slot.
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Lady Bian seems the most desired female character in Wei, which I can understand. ^_^
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Zillion
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I voted earlier, but had to log out. I can't remember who I voted for now D= I think my choices were...

Yu Jin - Koei's gotta script it well, but if they can pull it off, I feel we'll end up with a pretty hard-hitting, tragic little story.

Cheng Yu - A talented Wei strategist, although he dies around the same time as Jia Xu, so he doesn't really fill the role of an 'alternative strategist' that well. He's a freakin wierdo though. I love it.

I'm not too sure about my third choice...I think I voted Other though...perhaps Zang Ba? Another person who was under Lu Bu, givs Zhang Liao a buddy, and was apparantly a monster in the battles against Sun Quan.
Guo Nuwang seems interesting enough as well.
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Tue Jan 18, 2011 2:38 pm
Lady Bian seems the most desired female character in Wei, which I can understand. ^_^
Yeah especially as the later Wei era is now effectively Jin in the game. If they are going to add another female then why not go for arguably the most known female of early Wei anyway
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PyroTeddy
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I only want Cao Rui to be added to Wei.
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Pandemonium
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Actually, I want them all, but if I have to chose, then I chose Cao Hong, Yu Jin,Yue Jin, and Cheng Yu

Cao Hong has an important role in the story and he was with lord Cao Cao from the beginning.

Yu Jin and Yue Jin, well, they are among the "five generals of Wei" ( Zhang Liao, Xu Huang, Zhang He, Yu Jin, and Yue Jin ). While I think that Yu Jin doesn't deserve to be among them, they both had an important role, and I am surprised that they still didn't add them to the game

Cheng Yu is a legend ,and like Cao Hong, he was with lord Cao Cao from the beginning. Also, he was one of the greatest strategist in that era.
Edited by Pandemonium, Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:40 pm.
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I believe that Koei will be using Cai Wenji to play the role of Cao Cao's Lady Bian.
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I voted Cheng Yu, Man Chong, and other for Cao Rui. I really don't care for Cao Pi and Rui was the one in control during the northern campaigns.
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I selected Yu Jin, Yue Jin, and Li Dian.

Yu Jin has a lot going for him, he would be a great character that could have a lot done, and his defeat at Fan Castle is a mystery, some people thought he was a coward and surrendered to save his own life, while others believe he was a good general and did it to keep his men safe from harm. Koei could choose. He was also one of the Wei 5 generals. And in like a million battles.

Yue Jin was in a LOT of battles too, and also the 5th general of wei, adding him and they could have the 5 tiger generals and the 5 Wei ones, making it even.

Li Dian was just in a lot of battles.

Also, each time they reveal characters i fear more and more that Pang De will not be a character brought back, which I will have to shoot up a place if not (totally kidding) but seeing as all characters taken out of 6 except him and Zuo Ci have been revealed, and Zhang Liao still has his twin halberds its not lookin good :/ , and Xiahou Ba taking his whole "knight" look. So I really really want him in there. *crossing fingers* :2up:
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Also, each time they reveal characters i fear more and more that Pang De will not be a character brought back, which I will have to shoot up a place if not (totally kidding) but seeing as all characters taken out of 6 except him and Zuo Ci have been revealed, and Zhang Liao still has his twin halberds its not lookin good , and Xiahou Ba taking his whole "knight" look. So I really really want him in there. *crossing fingers*


Aha! At last I've found a true Pang De fan! I also am enraged at this stupid rumor that's been going on around here, I'm fearing that it may be true.... Just from all the evidence, and just that I have a bad feeling about it.... It seems Koei just LOVES to piss me off about stuff, like how they gave Ma Chao a ridiculous new look, and how they added Liu Chan to the game, and now this?! It's too much...

However I'm not to discuss SHU things on this thread. My point was that I really hope that rumor isn't true and that Pang De is coming back.. If not, I will join you in the shooting to KOEI's headquarters. Haha, anyways, welcome to the forums my friend!
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I chose Cao Hong, Yue Jin and Others:Xin Xianying or Guo Nuwang. ^_^

Cao Hong - Cao Hong had a tendency to take advantage of his previous accomplishments in order to further himself and his own position. As well as bragging about what he had done, he also was known to maliciously tease Cao Zhen, another cousin of Cao Cao, for being overweight. For this behavior, he was admonished by Yang Fu several times. Cao Hong's behavior bothered a lot of people in the Kingdom of Wei. Thus another different yet interesting personality for a character. He can contribute a lot of things for the Han dynasty as well as the middle eras.

Yue Jin - He was noted as much for his short stature as for his valor and ferocity on the battlefield. Yue Jin participated most of Cao Cao's early to middle wars, and gained multiple successes in campaigns against Lü Bu, Liu Bei and remnants of the Yellow Turbans and Yuan clan of northern China. He was particularly praised as a capable vanguard, but his most famed accomplishment came with his supporting role in the defense of Hefei against the advances of Sun Quan's massive army in 208. He is a cool add!

Guo Nuwang or Xin Xianying

Guo Nuwang - she was said to have been a good leader of the imperial consorts, treating them well and disciplining them appropriately when they acted improperly, while hiding their faults from Cao Pi. Cao Pi was impressed with her talent and beauty, and she quickly became a favorite, so much so that he began to neglect his wife Zhen Ji. She further created tension between Cao Pi and Zhen Ji by planting seeds of suspicion in Cao Pi's mind that Zhen Ji's son Cao Rui was not biologically Cao Pi's son, but rather the son of Zhen Ji's former husband Yuan Xi. It was because of this that Zhen Ji eventually lost Cao Pi's favor altogether, and after he became emperor of Cao Wei, he forced Zhen Ji to commit suicide. She could make the Zhen-Cao Pi-Guo Nuwang love triangle interesting. ^_^

Xin Xianying - Xin Xianying was the daughter of Xin Pi, and also the sister of Xin Chang. Many of Xin Xianying's words showed her wisdom was beyond many men's, Xin Xianying was often praised by her brother Xin Chang. Many times Xianying spoke her mind, even when other women or even men couldn't.

Xin Xianying often talked to her nephew Yang Hu about Zhong Hui's ambitions to rule, and said that one should avoid having too close personal contacts with Zhong Hui. So she could be a good potential add story wise maybe in the future (again)
Edited by Lady Emilie, Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:40 am.
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Cao Hong cause he is Cao Hong

Yu Jin cause he is Yu Jin

Li Dian because he is famous IMO he would be like Liao Hua.

Cao Rui though he wasn't that latest emporer of Wei.
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i selected other cuz i wud like to see cai mao. i know hes kinda insignificant in the larger picture, but his story is similar to that of gan ning, of course hes not as epically awesome as gan ning, but if they added him and maybe su fei, gan ning cud have his own beginning explained in full with these characters.
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I chose Yu Jin, Cao Zhang, and Cao Rui et. al...

Yu Jin: its already been reiterated why he would be a great add....just put him in already...he'll be like the anakin skywalker of DW...only he doesn't come back to the light side...he just gets sick and dies....lol

Cao Zhang: ahh the yellow beard son...the perfect opposite to Cao Pi's refined personality...KOEI could play with the sibling rivalry here a little and end it with the brothers settling on a truce....

Cao Rui & Cao Fang: somebody has to be around when Sima Yi creates the Jin Faction....Cao Rui should not be playable just a background character to give context to the life and actions of Cao Fang...Rui dies and makes Sima Yi chief regent over a young Cao Fang...Cao Fang goes to see his dad's tomb and Sima Yi takes over the palace..viola!...

Cao Shuang: this idiot should be a bonus character (he was one of the regents assigned to care for Cao Fang but was known for being a dumbass and annoying the heck out of Sima Yi)...he should be a cross between Xu Zhu's stupidity and the cowardice of Hideaki Kobyakawa from Sengoku Basara: Samurai Heroes...lol
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for the Wei it's realy simple:

-Cao Hong: for me the most needed addition of Wei. one of the Wei key officer, with a long career, a good rank, can be an officer of Wu Zhang (so extend is lifespan), because i'm afraid of wei officer can be playable at this battle.

-Guo Jia: not specialy a needed, but a great strategist who can be fun, but since the time jia xu is here, i don't realy think he will be in.

the others characters can be possible, is cao zhen at the place of cao hong, maybe also wen pin, sometimes koei surprise us more.
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Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:00 am
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Also, each time they reveal characters i fear more and more that Pang De will not be a character brought back, which I will have to shoot up a place if not (totally kidding) but seeing as all characters taken out of 6 except him and Zuo Ci have been revealed, and Zhang Liao still has his twin halberds its not lookin good , and Xiahou Ba taking his whole "knight" look. So I really really want him in there. *crossing fingers*
Aha! At last I've found a true Pang De fan! I also am enraged at this stupid rumor that's been going on around here, I'm fearing that it may be true.... Just from all the evidence, and just that I have a bad feeling about it.... It seems Koei just LOVES to piss me off about stuff, like how they gave Ma Chao a ridiculous new look, and how they added Liu Chan to the game, and now this?! It's too much... However I'm not to discuss SHU things on this thread. My point was that I really hope that rumor isn't true and that Pang De is coming back.. If not, I will join you in the shooting to KOEI's headquarters. Haha, anyways, welcome to the forums my friend!
I love Pang De. I love how he's like an anti-climatic hero. His greatest accomplishment is a brave, epic, and poetic death. Bringing his casket to battle to symbol he'll return victorious or in it?

Absolutely epic. The whole battle of Fancheng is insanely awesome, too, including the parts after it. The whole Shu-Wu tension is epic, from when Zhuge Liang first arrives with Lu Su to talk Sun Quan into an alliance to his rivalry with Zhou Yu, snaking the lands in Jing from them, their vengeance in killing Guan Yu, and Yi Ling.

If Zhuge Liang and Liu Bei weren't such goddamn deceitful snakes, they could have allied with Sun Quan, and by the time they became "Shu" and "Wu", they could have easily united to do some work northbound. You have to think if the army Liu Bei lost at Yi Ling(which was ENTIRELY his fault) could have been very useful to capture Chang An, no?
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more than any of my wanted adds I just want pang de back! I hate it when a series will introduce an amazing character but cut him and never bring him back again. he was my 3rd favorite wei guy behind xiahou dun and zhang liao.
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Agreed with all of you guys. (Pang De the Azul Knight, BluueJay, jsully16, Cao Hong 14) Pang De should be brought back first and only after that Koei make add someone else.
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Yes, Pang De better come back, I'm hoping he will... He was the second most important cut character from DW6, next to Jiang Wei. I do not understand why they wouldn't bring him back.
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Lady Bian? People wanting yet another MILF and the battlefield :facepalm:


I think Lady Xiahou would prove more useful, considering how we can have a covered up female due to her own self-inficting mutilation. I think that was her anyways.

Cao Cao wouldn't nearly seem as ruthless if his wife were to join him :hmmm:
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Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:58 am
Lady Bian? People wanting yet another MILF and the battlefield :facepalm:


I think Lady Xiahou would prove more useful, considering how we can have a covered up female due to her own self-inficting mutilation. I think that was her anyways.

Cao Cao wouldn't nearly seem as ruthless if his wife were to join him :hmmm:
Lady Xiahou:
Related to Cao Shuang by marriage
Abstained from a second marriage by cutting off her ears and then her nose.

Lady Bian:
Cao Cao's favourite wife
Mother to Cao Pi, Cao Zhang, Cao Zhi, Cao Xiong, and grandmother to Cao Rui
Shows a more personal side to Cao Cao, making his character even more interesting.

I know which one I want.

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Fri Jan 28, 2011 1:41 am
kaiosuke37
Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:58 am
Lady Bian? People wanting yet another MILF and the battlefield :facepalm: I think Lady Xiahou would prove more useful, considering how we can have a covered up female due to her own self-inficting mutilation. I think that was her anyways. Cao Cao wouldn't nearly seem as ruthless if his wife were to join him :hmmm:
Lady Xiahou: Related to Cao Shuang by marriage Abstained from a second marriage by cutting off her ears and then her nose. Lady Bian: Cao Cao's favourite wife Mother to Cao Pi, Cao Zhang, Cao Zhi, Cao Xiong, and grandmother to Cao Rui Shows a more personal side to Cao Cao, making his character even more interesting. I know which one I want.
Well for one, there's only two Caos playable. Making a Milf available just for two a-holes isn't all that special.


Secondly, we don't need another family reunion considering Wu already taking that family role persona. Wei has the roles of the bad guys already and they're really not that family-oriented

Thirdly, relations aren't everything when you're considering a preferable add over a select few females. It's the personas that count the most. Considering how all of the females are revealing, Lady Xiahou would be perfect because of the simple fact that she'll have to be concealed and what better way to exploit a suspicious persona than that? There's no way Koei would show a female with a mutilated face ^_^ .



There is no need for actual mothers just to fit the motherly type, you know? It would actually be more complicated making all of their stories to actually fit together into one compelling story.
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Well for one, there's only two Caos playable. Making a Milf available just for two a-holes isn't all that special.
There's potential for Lady Bian and her relationships with the other kinsmen, as well as Zhen Ji and the generals. It's something which doesn't come as easily with Lady Xiahou.

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Secondly, we don't need another family reunion considering Wu already taking that family role persona. Wei has the roles of the bad guys already and they're really not that family-oriented
Characters should be more complex, less simplified. That's why most don't want the one-note types, think of "beauty!" for Zhang He, "justice!" for Ma Chao, "I'm hungry" for Xu Chu, and the like. It's surprising to me that it seems you want Wei to stay the 'villains' of the game and for the characters to stay undiversified.

I will agree that Wei shouldn't become as family-oriented as Wu, but I don't mind the "clan" focus for them, if you know what I mean. Ummm, notice the immediate familial relationships of Wu, then the 'distant relative' thing with the Caos and Xiahous. One is based on care and support, the other for duty and ambition.

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Thirdly, relations aren't everything when you're considering a preferable add over a select few females. It's the personas that count the most. Considering how all of the females are revealing, Lady Xiahou would be perfect because of the simple fact that she'll have to be concealed and what better way to exploit a suspicious persona than that? There's no way Koei would show a female with a mutilated face .
Disagree. Relations are almost as important as personas, if not equal to. Sure, you can have this really complex character, but what if he doesn't interact with anyone? He's just a lone wolf, uninteresting, it doesn't share the focus of everything else in the game. There's no point in adding him or her to a roster, nor is there an "I" in "team". :mellow:

Lady Xiahou cuts off her ears and nose. Just because her face will be covered doesn't automatically guarantee she won't have revealing clothing, if that's what you meant in the bolded part of the quote.
Edited by Bamboo, Fri Jan 28, 2011 4:01 am.
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